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		By: Antoine Vella		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antoine Vella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-714539&quot;&gt;R Camilleri&lt;/a&gt;.

Just saw this comment. 96 metres is the height of the Porto Maso tower so imagine two thermos flasks of that size dominating the skyline and visible from half the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-714539">R Camilleri</a>.</p>
<p>Just saw this comment. 96 metres is the height of the Porto Maso tower so imagine two thermos flasks of that size dominating the skyline and visible from half the country.</p>
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		By: A Pesi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Pesi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After watching this video I also realised that his project would bring more ships in - don&#039;t we have enough ships with Freeport? More ships more pollution in our water.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching this video I also realised that his project would bring more ships in &#8211; don&#8217;t we have enough ships with Freeport? More ships more pollution in our water.</p>
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		By: old-timer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old-timer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The other day Konrad Mizzi said that Ann Fenech knows nothing about gas. I was thinking: does Konrad Mizzi know anything about ships and shipping?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day Konrad Mizzi said that Ann Fenech knows nothing about gas. I was thinking: does Konrad Mizzi know anything about ships and shipping?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-714116&quot;&gt;Neil Dent&lt;/a&gt;.

OK then, we need to make this viral. Facebook, billboards, whatever.

Joseph, is it Algeria?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-714116">Neil Dent</a>.</p>
<p>OK then, we need to make this viral. Facebook, billboards, whatever.</p>
<p>Joseph, is it Algeria?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713919&quot;&gt;SPAM&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Labour&quot; and &quot;sense&quot; should never be used together, unless &quot;non&quot; is inserted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713919">SPAM</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Labour&#8221; and &#8220;sense&#8221; should never be used together, unless &#8220;non&#8221; is inserted.</p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob-a-job]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713662&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

U kwazi mitna tal-Barrani.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713662">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>U kwazi mitna tal-Barrani.</p>
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		By: Mario Spiteri		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario Spiteri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713377&quot;&gt;Tinnat&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Tennat

I confirm that I have written this Facebook post earlier today. I am sorry to be the one to break this bad news to you, but I think it&#039;s high time you get your computer cleaned from viruses and worms.]]></description>
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<p>Dear Tennat</p>
<p>I confirm that I have written this Facebook post earlier today. I am sorry to be the one to break this bad news to you, but I think it&#8217;s high time you get your computer cleaned from viruses and worms.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713775&quot;&gt;GiovDeMartino&lt;/a&gt;.

Kanna minn hawn u Sqallija.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/01/total-serendipity-a-video-with-a-graphic-real-description-of-what-labour-is-talking-about/#comment-713775">GiovDeMartino</a>.</p>
<p>Kanna minn hawn u Sqallija.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ 

I would just like to explain one thing to Deborah Schembri regarding what she said on Bondi+.

Miles Seaman stated that the safety case for an installation of this type takes 9 to 12 months to compile BEFORE proceeding with a concept design to outline the main figures. These will then be used in the next stage, the detailed design and calculations.

In other words, safety case first, to produce the constraints against which, I would add, to select the plant. If the results of the safety case indicate that there’s no space for the tanks, it would be impossible to consider the proposed plant safe as it wouldn’t comply to the former. If there isn’t the physical space around the tanks to allow for the pits, and no money for the more expensive type of tank, there’s no safety. 

The case would determine to go for a different type of plant, call it the pipeline. 

The so called mitigating measures become money thrown at the installation to isolate or reduce risk to an acceptable level, which is never the proponent’s prerogative. 

In the real world, commercial interests are deemed to carry no ulterior agenda. 

There is no space for discussion whether the safety case should take less time or not, that would be determined by the Seveso directive, Mepa policies, and all other protocols that need to be followed. 

No questions asked, in the real world, a politician who’d take it on himself to rush a project like this through would certainly bring his political career to an abrupt end. 

As soon as finalsied, the detailed technical design is kicked off, which will include all aspects of active safety standards. ie safe running of the plant. 

What can be termed passive safety, (what measures have been taken to attenuate any effect once an incident arises), would have been decided, outlined and made design criteria before proceeding with the technical design. 

If the waters of Marsaxlokk harbour result too rough for most of the time is to operate, what mitigating measures can one apply? 

I trust Dr.Schembri can make a comparison between this design philosophy with Konrad’s take on safety; build first, then include safety as an afterthought. His priority is an electoral promise. His electoral promise, party’s expert he may be. Indeed. 

I let Dr.Schembri conclude what the reality will be like according to her party’s approach. 

The absence of a real safety case. 

Bullshit happens Dr.Schembri, especially if you plan it into the design process. It’s a bit like those men who die every other day, for some odd reason falling down lift shafts. 

I can assure you most incidents are due one thing, the frenzy to finish. From planning to commissioning]]></description>
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<p>I would just like to explain one thing to Deborah Schembri regarding what she said on Bondi+.</p>
<p>Miles Seaman stated that the safety case for an installation of this type takes 9 to 12 months to compile BEFORE proceeding with a concept design to outline the main figures. These will then be used in the next stage, the detailed design and calculations.</p>
<p>In other words, safety case first, to produce the constraints against which, I would add, to select the plant. If the results of the safety case indicate that there’s no space for the tanks, it would be impossible to consider the proposed plant safe as it wouldn’t comply to the former. If there isn’t the physical space around the tanks to allow for the pits, and no money for the more expensive type of tank, there’s no safety. </p>
<p>The case would determine to go for a different type of plant, call it the pipeline. </p>
<p>The so called mitigating measures become money thrown at the installation to isolate or reduce risk to an acceptable level, which is never the proponent’s prerogative. </p>
<p>In the real world, commercial interests are deemed to carry no ulterior agenda. </p>
<p>There is no space for discussion whether the safety case should take less time or not, that would be determined by the Seveso directive, Mepa policies, and all other protocols that need to be followed. </p>
<p>No questions asked, in the real world, a politician who’d take it on himself to rush a project like this through would certainly bring his political career to an abrupt end. </p>
<p>As soon as finalsied, the detailed technical design is kicked off, which will include all aspects of active safety standards. ie safe running of the plant. </p>
<p>What can be termed passive safety, (what measures have been taken to attenuate any effect once an incident arises), would have been decided, outlined and made design criteria before proceeding with the technical design. </p>
<p>If the waters of Marsaxlokk harbour result too rough for most of the time is to operate, what mitigating measures can one apply? </p>
<p>I trust Dr.Schembri can make a comparison between this design philosophy with Konrad’s take on safety; build first, then include safety as an afterthought. His priority is an electoral promise. His electoral promise, party’s expert he may be. Indeed. </p>
<p>I let Dr.Schembri conclude what the reality will be like according to her party’s approach. </p>
<p>The absence of a real safety case. </p>
<p>Bullshit happens Dr.Schembri, especially if you plan it into the design process. It’s a bit like those men who die every other day, for some odd reason falling down lift shafts. </p>
<p>I can assure you most incidents are due one thing, the frenzy to finish. From planning to commissioning</p>
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		By: Geoff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, lets imagine this scenario; the electorate swallows this 25% reduction promise bait, line, hook and sinker. 

One year later, with Malta-taghna-lkoll-Muscat as Prime Minister, the man is still delusional and is still convinced that the following year he would be grinningly cutting the &#039;zigarella&#039; of a shiny new power station, two massive LNG tanks and an LNG terminal.

And hey, presto! our bills are a 100Euro cheaper. Conrad says this will cost 77million each year out of savings he is estimating to make. Fascinating.

Fast forward to two years but, hey, this LNG business is slightly more complicated than a power point presentation and it is all taking much longer then expected. U iva, what&#039;s another 77 million?

But what the heck? When all this crap hits the fan Muscat will make way but all this madness won&#039;t. Malta will by now be in a point of return, we are nowhere there with this power station and that is when perhaps we will all become aware that we have been through all this before. 

I wonder how many years and how many 77 millions will it take us until we come to realise that will have to pay for all this like we have with CET.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, lets imagine this scenario; the electorate swallows this 25% reduction promise bait, line, hook and sinker. </p>
<p>One year later, with Malta-taghna-lkoll-Muscat as Prime Minister, the man is still delusional and is still convinced that the following year he would be grinningly cutting the &#8216;zigarella&#8217; of a shiny new power station, two massive LNG tanks and an LNG terminal.</p>
<p>And hey, presto! our bills are a 100Euro cheaper. Conrad says this will cost 77million each year out of savings he is estimating to make. Fascinating.</p>
<p>Fast forward to two years but, hey, this LNG business is slightly more complicated than a power point presentation and it is all taking much longer then expected. U iva, what&#8217;s another 77 million?</p>
<p>But what the heck? When all this crap hits the fan Muscat will make way but all this madness won&#8217;t. Malta will by now be in a point of return, we are nowhere there with this power station and that is when perhaps we will all become aware that we have been through all this before. </p>
<p>I wonder how many years and how many 77 millions will it take us until we come to realise that will have to pay for all this like we have with CET.</p>
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