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		By: Claude Sciberras		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-790306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claude Sciberras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What amazes me is that for the past 5 years the labour party have been making fun of the GONZIPN logo used in last election as though it was something wrong or to be ashamed of.  And now we have josephmuscat.com - not a mention of the PL or Labour Party. Why do you make fun of something for 5 years and then do the same if not worse? Beats me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazes me is that for the past 5 years the labour party have been making fun of the GONZIPN logo used in last election as though it was something wrong or to be ashamed of.  And now we have josephmuscat.com &#8211; not a mention of the PL or Labour Party. Why do you make fun of something for 5 years and then do the same if not worse? Beats me.</p>
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		By: Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787386&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;He also said it could also be the ones which stop in Valletta, making Malta and Gozo a double destination&quot;.

That actually destroys his idea completely. If he is serious about this he should realize that in a six or seven day cruise, very rarely would a cruise liner stay in port for two days. This means that the &#039;double destination&#039; he talks about is probably two hours in Valletta and two hours at Mgarr/Xlendi or wherever.

Not enough time for tourists to shop Valletta or Gozo. Who wins, in all this? Absolutely no one. It sounds like a lose-lose situation and yet another harebrained proposal by Joseph and his gang.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787386">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;He also said it could also be the ones which stop in Valletta, making Malta and Gozo a double destination&#8221;.</p>
<p>That actually destroys his idea completely. If he is serious about this he should realize that in a six or seven day cruise, very rarely would a cruise liner stay in port for two days. This means that the &#8216;double destination&#8217; he talks about is probably two hours in Valletta and two hours at Mgarr/Xlendi or wherever.</p>
<p>Not enough time for tourists to shop Valletta or Gozo. Who wins, in all this? Absolutely no one. It sounds like a lose-lose situation and yet another harebrained proposal by Joseph and his gang.</p>
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		By: bookworm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bookworm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This guest post has hit the nail on its head.  josephmuscat.com, simply has one agenda, to promote his &#039;moviment&#039;.  He says that he&#039;s attracting new faces, to a new political party (such as star candidate Joanne Vella Cuschieri, who said on One, that she was lured by Joseph&#039;s smile to form part of the Moviment ta&#039; Joseph&#039;), which underlies the fact that he wants to do away with the &#039;Partit Laburista&#039;.  This begs the question, how has he registered the party with the Electoral Commission, under &#039;Moviment Malta Taghna Lkoll&#039; or under &#039;Partit Laburista&#039;, and under which logo?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guest post has hit the nail on its head.  josephmuscat.com, simply has one agenda, to promote his &#8216;moviment&#8217;.  He says that he&#8217;s attracting new faces, to a new political party (such as star candidate Joanne Vella Cuschieri, who said on One, that she was lured by Joseph&#8217;s smile to form part of the Moviment ta&#8217; Joseph&#8217;), which underlies the fact that he wants to do away with the &#8216;Partit Laburista&#8217;.  This begs the question, how has he registered the party with the Electoral Commission, under &#8216;Moviment Malta Taghna Lkoll&#8217; or under &#8216;Partit Laburista&#8217;, and under which logo?</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-788107&quot;&gt;P Shaw&lt;/a&gt;.

Perfect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-788107">P Shaw</a>.</p>
<p>Perfect.</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787484&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Saw a beautiful super-yacht once: name was &quot;Just another toy.&quot;

Yes, Baxxter. Toys are toys no matter the size. Isn&#039;t Joseph good at keeping some for a while?  Pity about the discarded headless ones.  What do you think he does:  sends them out for recycling or patches them up with a good amount of tape to fix up a new, dolls-house-functional albeit not prime-action material model? Remove the bits he didn&#039;t like for an instantaneous remodelling. Door always open type?

Lego-type? a thought a minute, refashioning according to whim and current lobby group, but no trace of any of this come end of day? no longevity of plan.

The first debris of a person who operates in this way is psychological. What is going to happen when after having given their vote, they all approach with open hand? What he&#039;s forgotten to factor in is that a person who operates in this way usually hops from country to country, venue to venue, group to group, hoping the two don&#039;t meet.  

Even now, look at the ride he&#039;s getting: he is counting on the fact that no one within that camp will stop to think and question... at least until election time. And of course little hope that any one in his camp understand that someone can take you for a ride so badly: they haven&#039;t experienced it yet.  We have, but Mintoff wasn&#039;t on our side-then. In terms of negative experience, in terms of mass, he mainly has a horde of virgins. The rest, the ones who do know better, are in for gang-rape.

What they are chanting at the moment, the empty mantra, is just incidental disappointment of so many years in the Opposition exploited by the Joseph and Co to suit their &#039;movement&#039;.

At some point however, things will start not tallying.  And that is where my fear sets in.  There will have to be either admission, which I doubt, or a forced tally, which to me is the likelier scenario. I have absolutely no faith in any plan they put together for the simple reason that to me the basic reasoning of that group is flawed. AST? Karmenu Vella? Evarist Bartolo? Cyrus Engerer?? Joe Debono Grech? Helena Dalli? even the sidelines advisor (cum future ...?).  

Daphne has again had to explain to KZT just how flawed the reasoning is. Of course he got it the first time round. But what other ticket could he surf comfortably in on? But there again, reasoning with the objective of policy planning benefitting Malta was never the point.

Let me ask: does each new member to the club need to recommend others? Who has been recommended by whom? Is this normally a private meeting?  Or does Joseph somehow always manage to have a one-to-one to ascertain the clinch aspect: Nuance. Implication. Smile seal it. Deal. 

No record.

Is it important, at all, to the whole picture right now? Things have again moved a step further. Joseph&#039;s confidence will increase as he realises that no one has as yet come out with the full detail of lies and his side don&#039;t seem to care anyway.

I&#039;ll insist on the no record to that private deal. Easy to have misunderstood some vital aspect of the deal... in retrospect. Let&#039;s renegotiate shall we? This time round I&#039;ll promise you &quot;x.&quot; Next time round - and to accommodate one level of promises unkept with another (private comment &#039;you idiot&#039;) - we&#039;ll go for &quot;x/2.&quot; And you&#039;ll still come back for more because once the wheels are set in that negative spiral the person is indebted to you at some level or other.  

Another tactic of the great liar, con-man and snake-oil artist.

We&#039;ll still be toys, but by then he&#039;d have found the remote controls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787484">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Saw a beautiful super-yacht once: name was &#8220;Just another toy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Baxxter. Toys are toys no matter the size. Isn&#8217;t Joseph good at keeping some for a while?  Pity about the discarded headless ones.  What do you think he does:  sends them out for recycling or patches them up with a good amount of tape to fix up a new, dolls-house-functional albeit not prime-action material model? Remove the bits he didn&#8217;t like for an instantaneous remodelling. Door always open type?</p>
<p>Lego-type? a thought a minute, refashioning according to whim and current lobby group, but no trace of any of this come end of day? no longevity of plan.</p>
<p>The first debris of a person who operates in this way is psychological. What is going to happen when after having given their vote, they all approach with open hand? What he&#8217;s forgotten to factor in is that a person who operates in this way usually hops from country to country, venue to venue, group to group, hoping the two don&#8217;t meet.  </p>
<p>Even now, look at the ride he&#8217;s getting: he is counting on the fact that no one within that camp will stop to think and question&#8230; at least until election time. And of course little hope that any one in his camp understand that someone can take you for a ride so badly: they haven&#8217;t experienced it yet.  We have, but Mintoff wasn&#8217;t on our side-then. In terms of negative experience, in terms of mass, he mainly has a horde of virgins. The rest, the ones who do know better, are in for gang-rape.</p>
<p>What they are chanting at the moment, the empty mantra, is just incidental disappointment of so many years in the Opposition exploited by the Joseph and Co to suit their &#8216;movement&#8217;.</p>
<p>At some point however, things will start not tallying.  And that is where my fear sets in.  There will have to be either admission, which I doubt, or a forced tally, which to me is the likelier scenario. I have absolutely no faith in any plan they put together for the simple reason that to me the basic reasoning of that group is flawed. AST? Karmenu Vella? Evarist Bartolo? Cyrus Engerer?? Joe Debono Grech? Helena Dalli? even the sidelines advisor (cum future &#8230;?).  </p>
<p>Daphne has again had to explain to KZT just how flawed the reasoning is. Of course he got it the first time round. But what other ticket could he surf comfortably in on? But there again, reasoning with the objective of policy planning benefitting Malta was never the point.</p>
<p>Let me ask: does each new member to the club need to recommend others? Who has been recommended by whom? Is this normally a private meeting?  Or does Joseph somehow always manage to have a one-to-one to ascertain the clinch aspect: Nuance. Implication. Smile seal it. Deal. </p>
<p>No record.</p>
<p>Is it important, at all, to the whole picture right now? Things have again moved a step further. Joseph&#8217;s confidence will increase as he realises that no one has as yet come out with the full detail of lies and his side don&#8217;t seem to care anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll insist on the no record to that private deal. Easy to have misunderstood some vital aspect of the deal&#8230; in retrospect. Let&#8217;s renegotiate shall we? This time round I&#8217;ll promise you &#8220;x.&#8221; Next time round &#8211; and to accommodate one level of promises unkept with another (private comment &#8216;you idiot&#8217;) &#8211; we&#8217;ll go for &#8220;x/2.&#8221; And you&#8217;ll still come back for more because once the wheels are set in that negative spiral the person is indebted to you at some level or other.  </p>
<p>Another tactic of the great liar, con-man and snake-oil artist.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll still be toys, but by then he&#8217;d have found the remote controls.</p>
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		By: Mario		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787859&quot;&gt;Melissa&lt;/a&gt;.

Melissa, I think you meant to say Jason Micallef not Azzopardi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-787859">Melissa</a>.</p>
<p>Melissa, I think you meant to say Jason Micallef not Azzopardi.</p>
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		By: marks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-788326&quot;&gt;bystander&lt;/a&gt;.

The stretch of road is the one leading from Zabbar to Cottonera, with fields on one side. 

From the ONE footage, the crowd occupied about 200 metres of the road. Considering that it is within walking distance of the Three Cities, the crowd wasn&#039;t that impressive. 

However, most the voters in the second district will vote Red, irrespective of the hogwash program and inept leader (they are used to the latter species anyway).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/guest-post-labour-so-the-partys-over/#comment-788326">bystander</a>.</p>
<p>The stretch of road is the one leading from Zabbar to Cottonera, with fields on one side. </p>
<p>From the ONE footage, the crowd occupied about 200 metres of the road. Considering that it is within walking distance of the Three Cities, the crowd wasn&#8217;t that impressive. </p>
<p>However, most the voters in the second district will vote Red, irrespective of the hogwash program and inept leader (they are used to the latter species anyway).</p>
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		By: Ghar u Kasa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghar u Kasa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[His focus is on the wedding reception. Marriage comes afterwards and he will face the real truth, for which he has prepared almost nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His focus is on the wedding reception. Marriage comes afterwards and he will face the real truth, for which he has prepared almost nothing.</p>
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		By: curious		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A big eye opener this article. Can`t be more true.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big eye opener this article. Can`t be more true&#8230;..</p>
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		By: bystander		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bystander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Am I alone in noticing that MLP chose a short narrow street in Zabbar last Sunday to hold a mass meeting?

Do they always do that to make it look like there are thousands attending?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I alone in noticing that MLP chose a short narrow street in Zabbar last Sunday to hold a mass meeting?</p>
<p>Do they always do that to make it look like there are thousands attending?</p>
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