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		By: Edward		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-832932</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-829530&quot;&gt;Tabatha White&lt;/a&gt;.

I really want to talk to you. How can we make contact?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-829530">Tabatha White</a>.</p>
<p>I really want to talk to you. How can we make contact?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-830416</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828809&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Is this Edward Clemmer?

I have this theory that Socratic dialectic is completely alien to Maltese culture. 

I have often said that we&#039;re but one step away from North Africa, and it shows in our politics. We resolve conflict not by violence (place is too small, crowded and isolated, and the demographic balance rules against it) but by building a wall of resistance which precludes any dialogue at all. 

The political contest then turns into a scrum. It&#039;s about who can push harder (i.e. the one with the higher turnout at mass meetings, the one with the loudest crowd, the one who can talk loudest on Xarabank, the one who gets cheered, the one with the most massive billboards, etc. As if that were any sign of competence in government.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828809">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Is this Edward Clemmer?</p>
<p>I have this theory that Socratic dialectic is completely alien to Maltese culture. </p>
<p>I have often said that we&#8217;re but one step away from North Africa, and it shows in our politics. We resolve conflict not by violence (place is too small, crowded and isolated, and the demographic balance rules against it) but by building a wall of resistance which precludes any dialogue at all. </p>
<p>The political contest then turns into a scrum. It&#8217;s about who can push harder (i.e. the one with the higher turnout at mass meetings, the one with the loudest crowd, the one who can talk loudest on Xarabank, the one who gets cheered, the one with the most massive billboards, etc. As if that were any sign of competence in government.)</p>
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		By: Peppa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peppa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michelle&#039;s mother attends the day centre at Rabat, and this is run by the Rabat council.  

It came to my ears  that most of the people that attend take presents for Michelle and Joseph kids.

They bake sweets and send some to Michelle and Joseph too.  Who knows what&#039;s behind sending these gifts to Muscat - maybe they want something back in return.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle&#8217;s mother attends the day centre at Rabat, and this is run by the Rabat council.  </p>
<p>It came to my ears  that most of the people that attend take presents for Michelle and Joseph kids.</p>
<p>They bake sweets and send some to Michelle and Joseph too.  Who knows what&#8217;s behind sending these gifts to Muscat &#8211; maybe they want something back in return.</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828720&quot;&gt;Edward&lt;/a&gt;.

Edward, Very good. Excellent. It&#039;s not only that.  There&#039;s a product a good deal more local that they are using very well but with the difference that they are using it for the wrong values and negatively. The positive image portrayed is a sham for the underlying negative intentions.

Joseph first made contact with this local product on Mintoff&#039;s instructions in the very early years of 2000 - ask Glen - and has been following through ever since with specific direct renewed contact in 2009.

Of particular relevance besides the main claim to fame is a book published in 1977: What to do when ego is larger than performance is one of the topics touched upon.  &quot;New-truthing&quot; (under another name) is another.  It too is based on a similar &quot;Positive&quot; purpose. There are lots of other direct connections to Joseph within the LP that have studied this further. Eman Pulis etc. is one example. Alfred Sant, AST, Varist, JAM, are all fans. They have had in-house training in this.

Important to note that RCC, in particular, was sceptical. He had other information at hand.

This person&#039;s entire career functions in the same way as the lies we have been seeing from Joseph. What he counts as assets in his basket, did not originate as his.  These too were taken, brazenly, and to the detriment of other persons and their reputation.  The first recorded instance of this happened in the mid-80&#039;s, and the FBI were on to it. The lawyers that leant upon and brought in to institute court room bully tactics against the victims were non other than Robert Maxwell&#039;s - of the Mirror Pensions Scam. (Maxwell later committed suicide). The victims were described as &quot;indigent&quot; by their own lawyer in the face of this.  He is good at covering his tracks.  Usually zero evidence exists, or zeroed evidence - by any which way.

20 years later, the same victims who were hounded by defamatory public comment by this one person from one continent to another, were forced to put out a public statement on the net as to what happened.  There is an 80 page document on-line which lays out the outline of this.

By which I mean to say:  Do not take this penchant for lying lightly.  It is an evil that will infect the country as sure as sure is sure. When used this way, I have seen it happen.  It is as you say a We&#039;re In&quot; &quot;You&#039;re out&quot; club. It takes time to discover, to understand the full ramifications, to see.  The Jekyll and Hyde aspect is not refined at the moment: one can still see the creases where the lies are, where the evidence was. Soon, the art will be perfected and it will get seamless.  That will be Manwel&#039;s job.

I battled the negative values. In such cases, designed mobbing is instituted to oust. The attack tactics are the classic ones but so well-bolstered through the persuasion, and the envy of the &quot;We&#039;re In&quot; Others to gain position.  It is of the same nature as the Pyramid Scams.  Each person investing in: what? Promises that will have to be renegotiated time and time again with each failed investment for the promise of a more lucrative one each time. Ironically, this is precisely how Joseph&#039;s career bloomed.

Reasons given deflect from throwing the blame on the main person - in this case Joseph. He will perforce remain the illuminated, with a pristine polished shell, whilst others around him will be felled with routine certainty to make way for the new blood and reinforcement:  The new promises to make up the bottom layer.

That is what we will see in structure here.  Joseph has learnt to be a professional conman.  A snake-oil artist par excellence. The student may well surpass the mentor in delusion and mass application.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828720">Edward</a>.</p>
<p>Edward, Very good. Excellent. It&#8217;s not only that.  There&#8217;s a product a good deal more local that they are using very well but with the difference that they are using it for the wrong values and negatively. The positive image portrayed is a sham for the underlying negative intentions.</p>
<p>Joseph first made contact with this local product on Mintoff&#8217;s instructions in the very early years of 2000 &#8211; ask Glen &#8211; and has been following through ever since with specific direct renewed contact in 2009.</p>
<p>Of particular relevance besides the main claim to fame is a book published in 1977: What to do when ego is larger than performance is one of the topics touched upon.  &#8220;New-truthing&#8221; (under another name) is another.  It too is based on a similar &#8220;Positive&#8221; purpose. There are lots of other direct connections to Joseph within the LP that have studied this further. Eman Pulis etc. is one example. Alfred Sant, AST, Varist, JAM, are all fans. They have had in-house training in this.</p>
<p>Important to note that RCC, in particular, was sceptical. He had other information at hand.</p>
<p>This person&#8217;s entire career functions in the same way as the lies we have been seeing from Joseph. What he counts as assets in his basket, did not originate as his.  These too were taken, brazenly, and to the detriment of other persons and their reputation.  The first recorded instance of this happened in the mid-80&#8217;s, and the FBI were on to it. The lawyers that leant upon and brought in to institute court room bully tactics against the victims were non other than Robert Maxwell&#8217;s &#8211; of the Mirror Pensions Scam. (Maxwell later committed suicide). The victims were described as &#8220;indigent&#8221; by their own lawyer in the face of this.  He is good at covering his tracks.  Usually zero evidence exists, or zeroed evidence &#8211; by any which way.</p>
<p>20 years later, the same victims who were hounded by defamatory public comment by this one person from one continent to another, were forced to put out a public statement on the net as to what happened.  There is an 80 page document on-line which lays out the outline of this.</p>
<p>By which I mean to say:  Do not take this penchant for lying lightly.  It is an evil that will infect the country as sure as sure is sure. When used this way, I have seen it happen.  It is as you say a We&#8217;re In&#8221; &#8220;You&#8217;re out&#8221; club. It takes time to discover, to understand the full ramifications, to see.  The Jekyll and Hyde aspect is not refined at the moment: one can still see the creases where the lies are, where the evidence was. Soon, the art will be perfected and it will get seamless.  That will be Manwel&#8217;s job.</p>
<p>I battled the negative values. In such cases, designed mobbing is instituted to oust. The attack tactics are the classic ones but so well-bolstered through the persuasion, and the envy of the &#8220;We&#8217;re In&#8221; Others to gain position.  It is of the same nature as the Pyramid Scams.  Each person investing in: what? Promises that will have to be renegotiated time and time again with each failed investment for the promise of a more lucrative one each time. Ironically, this is precisely how Joseph&#8217;s career bloomed.</p>
<p>Reasons given deflect from throwing the blame on the main person &#8211; in this case Joseph. He will perforce remain the illuminated, with a pristine polished shell, whilst others around him will be felled with routine certainty to make way for the new blood and reinforcement:  The new promises to make up the bottom layer.</p>
<p>That is what we will see in structure here.  Joseph has learnt to be a professional conman.  A snake-oil artist par excellence. The student may well surpass the mentor in delusion and mass application.</p>
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		By: Miss O'Brien		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss O'Brien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828471&quot;&gt;Libertas&lt;/a&gt;.

My faith in Reno is restored.]]></description>
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<p>My faith in Reno is restored.</p>
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		By: Gahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 06:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130223/elections-news/interview-with-joseph-muscat-on-safi-drugs-case.458898

Joseph :Jien nghidlek Chris , li il-kaz seta’ gie ihendiljat ahjar.

Mela , seta’ Joseph ma jigdibx u jipprova jhawwad l-imhuh.

Mela seta&#039; ma johhrogx lil Toni ta’ vaz u l-ewwel jghidu li l-mexxej ma kien jaf assolutament xejn dwar dan il-kaz u wara li harget xhieda li tghid bil-kontra, johrog Joseph u jghid kemm jiftakar il-kaz bid-dettalji kollha tieghu.

Kif rajtha jien u hafna nies bhali : Joseph qal lil Toni biex izommu ‘l-boghod kemm jista’ jkun mid-droga ta’ Hal-Safi , Toni obdieh , x’hin inkixfet naqr’ iktar il-borma Joseph ma kellux triq ohra hlief  li jiddikjara li kien jaf bil-kaz, jew ahjar li ivvinta u qal gidba lil-Malta kollha.

L-eqreb triq ,it-triq tas-sewwa. Meta tghid is-sewwa ma jkollokx bzonn tiftakar x’kont ghidt qabel waqt li tkemmex mohhok.

Is-sewwa hija bhal matematika, iddurilha minn fejn iddurilha , dejjem twasslek ghal-istess twegiba tajba.

Meta tinghad gidba qatt ma twasslek ghal-istess twegiba.]]></description>
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<p>Joseph :Jien nghidlek Chris , li il-kaz seta’ gie ihendiljat ahjar.</p>
<p>Mela , seta’ Joseph ma jigdibx u jipprova jhawwad l-imhuh.</p>
<p>Mela seta&#8217; ma johhrogx lil Toni ta’ vaz u l-ewwel jghidu li l-mexxej ma kien jaf assolutament xejn dwar dan il-kaz u wara li harget xhieda li tghid bil-kontra, johrog Joseph u jghid kemm jiftakar il-kaz bid-dettalji kollha tieghu.</p>
<p>Kif rajtha jien u hafna nies bhali : Joseph qal lil Toni biex izommu ‘l-boghod kemm jista’ jkun mid-droga ta’ Hal-Safi , Toni obdieh , x’hin inkixfet naqr’ iktar il-borma Joseph ma kellux triq ohra hlief  li jiddikjara li kien jaf bil-kaz, jew ahjar li ivvinta u qal gidba lil-Malta kollha.</p>
<p>L-eqreb triq ,it-triq tas-sewwa. Meta tghid is-sewwa ma jkollokx bzonn tiftakar x’kont ghidt qabel waqt li tkemmex mohhok.</p>
<p>Is-sewwa hija bhal matematika, iddurilha minn fejn iddurilha , dejjem twasslek ghal-istess twegiba tajba.</p>
<p>Meta tinghad gidba qatt ma twasslek ghal-istess twegiba.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828809&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

You should read Lost at Sea. It&#039;s quite a good account of what really happens in those situations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828809">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>You should read Lost at Sea. It&#8217;s quite a good account of what really happens in those situations.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828720&quot;&gt;Edward&lt;/a&gt;.

The technique described in &quot;The Secret&quot; is very Maltese. In fact we have a word which is unique - tmaqdar - which is used to put down anyone who criticises anything. 

We&#039;ve even invented the artificial term &quot;constructive criticism&quot; to describe what is in fact non-criticism.

In a nutshell, don&#039;t get me started about this. I&#039;ve been on the receiving end of the ostracism for two decades now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828720">Edward</a>.</p>
<p>The technique described in &#8220;The Secret&#8221; is very Maltese. In fact we have a word which is unique &#8211; tmaqdar &#8211; which is used to put down anyone who criticises anything. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve even invented the artificial term &#8220;constructive criticism&#8221; to describe what is in fact non-criticism.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, don&#8217;t get me started about this. I&#8217;ve been on the receiving end of the ostracism for two decades now.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another bombshell. 

&#039;.....Asked to comment on the fact that lawyer (and former police inspector) David Gatt was also involved in the management audit of George Farrugia&#039;s company, Mr Fenech said such a question should be referred to the MLP, which had also welcomed Dr Gatt..&#039;

Nuked. 

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130223/local/fenech-questions-joseph-muscat-s-links-with-joe-cordina.458887]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another bombshell. </p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;..Asked to comment on the fact that lawyer (and former police inspector) David Gatt was also involved in the management audit of George Farrugia&#8217;s company, Mr Fenech said such a question should be referred to the MLP, which had also welcomed Dr Gatt..&#8217;</p>
<p>Nuked. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130223/local/fenech-questions-joseph-muscat-s-links-with-joe-cordina.458887" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130223/local/fenech-questions-joseph-muscat-s-links-with-joe-cordina.458887</a></p>
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		By: Qeghdin Sew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qeghdin Sew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/02/lawrence-gonzi-now-on-dissett-on-tvm2/#comment-828649&quot;&gt;Alfred&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, as if MaltaToday can call up 500 people tonight, analyse the data, do the write up, and still make it in time for the printing deadline.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, as if MaltaToday can call up 500 people tonight, analyse the data, do the write up, and still make it in time for the printing deadline.</p>
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