Comments on: Mrs Norman Hamilton’s brother (also called Norman) and the George Cross

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:43 +0000

@ Norman Grech

“It is not for you to be for or against the George Cross, because it was not given to you. Most of the people who earned it are now dead, and you don’t speak for them and never did.”

There you go Norman, you’ve got your answer….now shove the eight pointed cross in a dark. shady and obscure hole….you determined idiot.

Read some proper history.

By: Victor

Victor — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:55:05 +0000

In reply to Bridgette Farmington.

Whoever said that we need the George Cross to be or feel Maltese, Bridgette? In my opinion that is a very stupid thing to say.

The George Cross was awarded to our forefathers for their bravery and therefore it should stay on the flag in their honour.

It is there to remind us of the bravery and suffering the people of this little island have gone through during World War 11.

I simply cannot understand these people who want to eradicate history. In my opinion it is simply ignorance, or perhaps arrogance.

By: H.P. Baxxter

H.P. Baxxter — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:20:20 +0000

In reply to Bridgette Farmington. I agree wholeheartedly. In order to feel Maltese, we only need to share your idiotic views.

By: Bridgette Farmington

Bridgette Farmington — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:06:00 +0000

We do not need the George Cross
to be or feel Maltese,
that`s for sure.
I would remove from the flag
but not send it back.

By: fifth horseman of the apocalypse

fifth horseman of the apocalypse — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:04:43 +0000

In reply to Mary. Mary, please learn how to read. The George Cross reminds us of gallantry and not servitude.

By: Norman E Grech

Norman E Grech — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:39:38 +0000

heheheh! I find this very entertaining!

Some clarifications:

1. I am definitely younger than you ;P :-) and let us let the readers judge who needs growing up.
2. Extremeist view? heheh again, this is your way of looking at it! When the idea was first put forward for women to vote (as one of the many examples) it was also seen as extremist view, those days, by conservatives.
3. I doubt you have the ability to ever understand my point. I am not against the medal per se, I am just against the medal ON OUR FLAG. but like the rest of you you thwart the argument intentionally! :-)
4. You will no doubt have your last say again as this is your blog. So enjoy your perceived satisfaction, because I’m out of here!

Do take care :-)

[Daphne – It’s not about ‘having the last say’, Norman, but about not ignoring those who wish to engage with us, unless they are harmful stalkers.

I don’t think adults should begin sentences with ‘hehehehe’. At our sort of age, we should say something like ‘I found that amusing’ or ‘That’s quite funny.’ As for the rest:

1. My apologies for thinking you are in your late 40s. This was a reasonable assumption to make given that your sister Josette Hamilton must be in her mid-50s at least, and I didn’t do the impolite thing and assume or suggest you were older, which I might well have done. Gaps of 10 years and more between siblings are the exception and not the norm in my experience, so I do not naturally assume that women in their mid-50s have brothers in their early 40s.

I grew up rather earlier than the norm, and was writing a political column for a national newspaper and looking after a household with three children at 25, so your encouragement to do so is gratuitous, I’m afraid.

2. The world has come a long way since discussions about votes for women a hundred years ago, which means that in 21st-century Europe, ‘extremist’ has a real rather than a relative meaning. In any case, I find that extremists are generally just obsessive people who find something on which to fixate, rather than idealists, who tend to be the extremist exception.

3. I do indeed have the ability to understand your point. My IQ is not below average. I understand your point and precisely because I understand it, I disagree with it utterly and completely. Your failure is in believing that people disagree with you merely because they don’t understand your argument. It is not for you to be for or against the George Cross, because it was not given to you. Most of the people who earned it are now dead, and you don’t speak for them and never did. I do not thwart your argument intentionally or otherwise. You are free to make it. It would be the simplest matter to hit ‘delete’, but I don’t.

4. How much younger than Mrs Hamilton are you exactly?]

By: observer

observer — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:47:47 +0000

In reply to Mary.

Disagreed completely, my dear Mary.

I have lived through World War II and its immediate aftermath – like so many thousands still around in this Island. Have you?

By: Norman E Grech

Norman E Grech — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:59:41 +0000

In reply to David. Well said David! :-) You are yet another open-minded person!

By: Norman E Grech

Norman E Grech — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:55:36 +0000

Daphne,

You really don’t have anything to write about do you! :-)

As for the cross of gorgie, I am entitled to my opinion, no? This is the 2013 for Christ’s sake! If you wish to have your mind still brain washed and servile, be my guest. See with your own eyes, what open-minded people have to say about this matter! Next time I see you in Mosta, and I know exactly where you’re normally at, we’ll have a civilised discussion! This has nothing to do with being anti-british! This has to do with being proud to be Maltese.

You’ll earn some credit with me if you print this comment, exactly as is! :-)

Take care

[Daphne – “We’ll have a civilised discussion”. If it’s about anything other than the weather or the traffic, don’t bother. I’m about three decades past the age of seeing either any point or any entertainment in getting into long-winded discussions with those who hold entrenched and extremist views, and I find people with colonialist chips on their shoulder especially enervating. It’s your mind that needs opening: then perhaps you will be able to see beyond your brainwashed rhetoric – clearly the fruit of your upbringing rather than your own powers of analysis, given that your sister was prancing all over Xandir Malta under giant photographs of Dom Il Sung and Karmenu Mao in the Golden 80s – to the fact that British colonialism was the making of Malta, rather than the reverse. The arguments of those who think as you do are rooted in the false premiss that ‘the Maltese’ could have ‘made it on their own’ post-1800, and so your logic is false. Yes, right – made it to what? Sicily’s toenail, speaking Maltese all the way while being annexed eventually by the Fascists next door. I hate to say this to a man my age or older, but you really need to grow up.]

By: zaren

zaren — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:51:01 +0000

In reply to Mary.

MELA BL-ISTESS ARGUMENT IL-FRANĊIŻI GĦANDHOM IBIDDLU L-INNU NAZZJONALI, INNU PJUTTOST REVOLUZZJONARJU U PATRIJOTTIKU GĦALL-AĦĦAR, META L-EWROPA KIENET MIMLIJA GWERER GĦAX MA KINITX UNJONI EWROPEA.

IT-TALJANI L-ISTESS, IFHEM X’JGĦIDU FL-INNU U TARA KIF JITKELLEM FUQ L-ISTORJA TAGĦHOM U MILL-ĠDID PATRIJOTTIKU GĦALL-AĦĦAR.

L-INNU INGLIŻ, ‘SENT HER VICTORIOUS’ U L-BQIJA, META LLUM GRAZZI GĦALL-UNJONI NINSABU FIS-SLIEM.

L-IMGĦODDI QIEGĦED HEMM BIEX JGĦALLIMNA, ISSA JEKK HAWN MIN IRID IĦADDAN L-INJURANZA, ALLURA NĦASSRU L-ISTORJA, INĠARRFU T-TEMPJI, NWAQQGĦU S-SWAR, INĦOTTU L-KNEJJES U L-MUŻEWIJIET GĦAX DAWN KOLLHA JGĦIDULNA ĠRAJJA LI ĠARRABNA U GĦAMLITNA NAZZJON KBURI U GĦANI FI ĠRAJJITNA U SODI F’GĦERUQNA.