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		By: John Snow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Snow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[October 8th, 2013

A Married Mom and Dad Really Do Matter: New Evidence from Canada

&quot;A new academic study based on the Canadian census suggests that a married mom and dad matter for children. Children of same-sex coupled households do not fare as well.&quot;

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/10/10996/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October 8th, 2013</p>
<p>A Married Mom and Dad Really Do Matter: New Evidence from Canada</p>
<p>&#8220;A new academic study based on the Canadian census suggests that a married mom and dad matter for children. Children of same-sex coupled households do not fare as well.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/10/10996/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/10/10996/</a></p>
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		By: Paddling Duck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paddling Duck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335719&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

For the archaic laws they&#039;re introducing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335719">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>For the archaic laws they&#8217;re introducing?</p>
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		By: Natalie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335194&quot;&gt;Edward&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, I will check them out. 

I want to emphasise again though, that I&#039;m certain that a homosexual couple is equally able to love and care for a child as any heterosexual couple. 

I&#039;m just unsure whether this will have any effect on the sexual orientation of the child. I think we need more data and personally I need to be more informed about the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335194">Edward</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, I will check them out. </p>
<p>I want to emphasise again though, that I&#8217;m certain that a homosexual couple is equally able to love and care for a child as any heterosexual couple. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just unsure whether this will have any effect on the sexual orientation of the child. I think we need more data and personally I need to be more informed about the subject.</p>
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		By: Philip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335016&quot;&gt;Natalie&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed Nathalie, I totally support gay marriage, and I cannot stand it when politicians try to hide it behind any other name, but until such time as the enormous prejudices will exist, adoption by gay couples needs to be put on hold. 

Would it be fair to the child to subject him to these same prejudices as well as bullying problems which result from being the child of a gay couple. 

I realize that there are reports galore to support such adoption etc etc but I truly believe that in practical terms the child would be facing unnecessary hurdles, and might wake up one day and say to himself/herself, &quot;hey what right did anyone have, to have me adopted by a gay couple?&quot; 

Ultimately shouldn&#039;t we be looking after the child&#039;s rights?

The usual response is &quot;yes, but isn&#039;t it better to have the loving care of a gay couple than none at all?&quot;  Valid point,  but there are enough straight parents out there willing to adopt that I do not think it urgent at this stage to promote gay adoptions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335016">Natalie</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed Nathalie, I totally support gay marriage, and I cannot stand it when politicians try to hide it behind any other name, but until such time as the enormous prejudices will exist, adoption by gay couples needs to be put on hold. </p>
<p>Would it be fair to the child to subject him to these same prejudices as well as bullying problems which result from being the child of a gay couple. </p>
<p>I realize that there are reports galore to support such adoption etc etc but I truly believe that in practical terms the child would be facing unnecessary hurdles, and might wake up one day and say to himself/herself, &#8220;hey what right did anyone have, to have me adopted by a gay couple?&#8221; </p>
<p>Ultimately shouldn&#8217;t we be looking after the child&#8217;s rights?</p>
<p>The usual response is &#8220;yes, but isn&#8217;t it better to have the loving care of a gay couple than none at all?&#8221;  Valid point,  but there are enough straight parents out there willing to adopt that I do not think it urgent at this stage to promote gay adoptions.</p>
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		By: Aldo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335643&quot;&gt;rjc&lt;/a&gt;.

RJC, the American College of Pediatricians (estimated membership of 60 to 200) whose page you linked to, were created by a few conservative paediatricians who were at odds with the majority of paediatricians, with the respected American Academy of Pediatrics (60,000 members in primary care and sub-specialist areas), and other medical and child welfare authorities. 

You&#039;ll also find that they support selective parental use of corporal punishment and abstinence-based sex education in place of a comprehensive sex education. They also believe in reparative therapy, so the next time you feel like enlightening us, try choosing something other than propaganda from a bunch of nincompoop fundamentalists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1335643">rjc</a>.</p>
<p>RJC, the American College of Pediatricians (estimated membership of 60 to 200) whose page you linked to, were created by a few conservative paediatricians who were at odds with the majority of paediatricians, with the respected American Academy of Pediatrics (60,000 members in primary care and sub-specialist areas), and other medical and child welfare authorities. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also find that they support selective parental use of corporal punishment and abstinence-based sex education in place of a comprehensive sex education. They also believe in reparative therapy, so the next time you feel like enlightening us, try choosing something other than propaganda from a bunch of nincompoop fundamentalists.</p>
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		By: Mikiel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further reading
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/russia-adoptions-sweden-gay-parents_n_4045252.html

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/04/312169/russia-bans-adoption-by-gay-couples/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further reading<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/russia-adoptions-sweden-gay-parents_n_4045252.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/russia-adoptions-sweden-gay-parents_n_4045252.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/04/312169/russia-bans-adoption-by-gay-couples/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/07/04/312169/russia-bans-adoption-by-gay-couples/</a></p>
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		By: Mikiel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With adoption, one has to keep in mind that this is not a matter of money, emotions and giving a home to a child. ( I hear write with a good personal insight into the local adoption process)

Adoption is about the child not the desiring couple. And most importantly, It&#039;s the child&#039;s country which makes the rules and not the applicants country.   The applicant is not making a favour to the child and country of origin either. It&#039;s in fact the child&#039;s country of origin which is accepting to give the applicant a child to take care off, it&#039;s their prerogative, they are giving you the most precious of gifts, a child to cherish.

In the case of Russia, in order to ensure the safe future of its children placed in adoption, it asks the applicants for detailed personal information.  Including medical tests ranging from ecologist, neurologist, psychologist &#038;physiatrists, financial assessments, verifications from lawyers, notaries and local government. Then translated and again verified by local embassy.  Hence the high cost of adoption. This besides the adoption course and home assessment one needs to undertake before applying. An arduous task indeed.

So you see we could postulate, argue, go on xarabank, cry emotionally about homosexual rights to have a family, but when it comes to adoption it&#039;s not the local LGBD group which dictates but rather the child&#039;s country. 

  In the case of the only country presently open for adoption to Maltese citizens , Russia, if we change our civil marriage/union laws with homosexual couples can adopt a child, Russia will stop all adoptions to any Maltese applicant, homo or heterosexual.  Bil-malti - ma ikollhomx pjacir Binha iktar, kollha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With adoption, one has to keep in mind that this is not a matter of money, emotions and giving a home to a child. ( I hear write with a good personal insight into the local adoption process)</p>
<p>Adoption is about the child not the desiring couple. And most importantly, It&#8217;s the child&#8217;s country which makes the rules and not the applicants country.   The applicant is not making a favour to the child and country of origin either. It&#8217;s in fact the child&#8217;s country of origin which is accepting to give the applicant a child to take care off, it&#8217;s their prerogative, they are giving you the most precious of gifts, a child to cherish.</p>
<p>In the case of Russia, in order to ensure the safe future of its children placed in adoption, it asks the applicants for detailed personal information.  Including medical tests ranging from ecologist, neurologist, psychologist &amp;physiatrists, financial assessments, verifications from lawyers, notaries and local government. Then translated and again verified by local embassy.  Hence the high cost of adoption. This besides the adoption course and home assessment one needs to undertake before applying. An arduous task indeed.</p>
<p>So you see we could postulate, argue, go on xarabank, cry emotionally about homosexual rights to have a family, but when it comes to adoption it&#8217;s not the local LGBD group which dictates but rather the child&#8217;s country. </p>
<p>  In the case of the only country presently open for adoption to Maltese citizens , Russia, if we change our civil marriage/union laws with homosexual couples can adopt a child, Russia will stop all adoptions to any Maltese applicant, homo or heterosexual.  Bil-malti &#8211; ma ikollhomx pjacir Binha iktar, kollha.</p>
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		By: clarissa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 09:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russia could simply refuse the request of same-sex couples and should not punish the traditional  couples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia could simply refuse the request of same-sex couples and should not punish the traditional  couples.</p>
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		By: Osservatore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Osservatore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 09:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good for Russia!]]></description>
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		By: AE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1334989&quot;&gt;curious&lt;/a&gt;.

Henley can charge such astronomical fees because the government is giving them the monopoly over this scheme. Every single professional in the industry stands to lose and can only get a part of the action if Henley accepts them as an agent and they hand over their clients to Henley, running the risk that Henley poach their clients for other services too. 

So Henley get all the profile, get the lion&#039;s share of the action since they are the SOLE concessionaire and get to sweep up all the crumbs too since the only way others can participate is through them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/gay-marriage-means-no-adoptions-now-rather-than-adoptions-for-all/#comment-1334989">curious</a>.</p>
<p>Henley can charge such astronomical fees because the government is giving them the monopoly over this scheme. Every single professional in the industry stands to lose and can only get a part of the action if Henley accepts them as an agent and they hand over their clients to Henley, running the risk that Henley poach their clients for other services too. </p>
<p>So Henley get all the profile, get the lion&#8217;s share of the action since they are the SOLE concessionaire and get to sweep up all the crumbs too since the only way others can participate is through them.</p>
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