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		By: Seriously		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further comments by the Authority of Orders of the world from Guy Stair Saintly: (Please do google him).

What a load of balls.

This self-styled Order was founded by a group of enterprising business
men in 1910, failed during WWI and was then revived by some others in
the 1920s.It has no conection whatsoever with either the original
Order of St Lazarus that was combined with the Order of St John in
1489, with the Priory of Capua of that Order that survived the
amalamatino with St John and provided the foundatino of the Order of
St Mauriice and Lazarus in 1572, or with the commandery of Boigny of
St Lazarus that resisted Papal authority until 1608 when the benefices
of the commandery were invested in the newly founded Order of Our Lady
of Mount Carmel. This latter became the Order of Our Lady of Mount
Carmel and Saint Lazarus of Jerusalem united under the Protectino of
the Crown of France. Its last Grand Master was Louis, Count of
Provence, who made the last reception of knights according to the
canonical forms in 1788. On being restored as King Louis XVIII in 1814
he decided that the Order would be allowed to become extinct and
petitions to join the Order were subsequently refused(the Charte
Constitutionnel made it illegal to accord honours on the basis of
nobility,since such distinctions would have offended the principle of
equality enunciated in the Charter). This decision was made final in a
delcaration by the Grand Chancellor of the Legino of Honour in 1824.
In 1831 it was forbidden to wear the Order in France. In 1856 the last
knight received according to the canonical forms died at the age of
103.In 1956, under canon law, the original canonical foundation became
finally and irrevocably extinct, 100 years having passed since the
death of its last member. The Order was condemned by the Holy See in
1935 and again in subsequent condemnations of self-styled Orders. It
is contrary to French law to wear the deocrations or claim the
chivalric titles associated with them.The &quot;history&quot; published by this
organisatino which purportes to trace its survival and existence
throught he 19th century is merely a work of fiction.

Which of the five competing bodies that all claim to be the survivor
of the 1910 foundation (because that it is the very best any of them
can claim) are you trumpeting here?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.talk.royalty/Order$20of$20Saint$20Lazarus$20of$20Jerusalem/alt.talk.royalty/E6ISUEEHnAQ/GxzwfxyBIV0J]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further comments by the Authority of Orders of the world from Guy Stair Saintly: (Please do google him).</p>
<p>What a load of balls.</p>
<p>This self-styled Order was founded by a group of enterprising business<br />
men in 1910, failed during WWI and was then revived by some others in<br />
the 1920s.It has no conection whatsoever with either the original<br />
Order of St Lazarus that was combined with the Order of St John in<br />
1489, with the Priory of Capua of that Order that survived the<br />
amalamatino with St John and provided the foundatino of the Order of<br />
St Mauriice and Lazarus in 1572, or with the commandery of Boigny of<br />
St Lazarus that resisted Papal authority until 1608 when the benefices<br />
of the commandery were invested in the newly founded Order of Our Lady<br />
of Mount Carmel. This latter became the Order of Our Lady of Mount<br />
Carmel and Saint Lazarus of Jerusalem united under the Protectino of<br />
the Crown of France. Its last Grand Master was Louis, Count of<br />
Provence, who made the last reception of knights according to the<br />
canonical forms in 1788. On being restored as King Louis XVIII in 1814<br />
he decided that the Order would be allowed to become extinct and<br />
petitions to join the Order were subsequently refused(the Charte<br />
Constitutionnel made it illegal to accord honours on the basis of<br />
nobility,since such distinctions would have offended the principle of<br />
equality enunciated in the Charter). This decision was made final in a<br />
delcaration by the Grand Chancellor of the Legino of Honour in 1824.<br />
In 1831 it was forbidden to wear the Order in France. In 1856 the last<br />
knight received according to the canonical forms died at the age of<br />
103.In 1956, under canon law, the original canonical foundation became<br />
finally and irrevocably extinct, 100 years having passed since the<br />
death of its last member. The Order was condemned by the Holy See in<br />
1935 and again in subsequent condemnations of self-styled Orders. It<br />
is contrary to French law to wear the deocrations or claim the<br />
chivalric titles associated with them.The &#8220;history&#8221; published by this<br />
organisatino which purportes to trace its survival and existence<br />
throught he 19th century is merely a work of fiction.</p>
<p>Which of the five competing bodies that all claim to be the survivor<br />
of the 1910 foundation (because that it is the very best any of them<br />
can claim) are you trumpeting here?</p>
<p><a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.talk.royalty/Order$20of$20Saint$20Lazarus$20of$20Jerusalem/alt.talk.royalty/E6ISUEEHnAQ/GxzwfxyBIV0J" rel="nofollow ugc">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.talk.royalty/Order$20of$20Saint$20Lazarus$20of$20Jerusalem/alt.talk.royalty/E6ISUEEHnAQ/GxzwfxyBIV0J</a></p>
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		By: Emmett Brown		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/joe-vella-gauci-is-now-a-grand-prior/#comment-1328834</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emmett Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/joe-vella-gauci-is-now-a-grand-prior/#comment-1326943&quot;&gt;Emmett Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

The ones that appear on Xarabank and climb mountains, are not within that group that are leaders in their field. And by leaders, I do not mean in Malta or within the Maltese University. These scientists and researchers who literally work late hours without extra remuneration, are seen and respected as leaders within the international community. They are not interested in cheap publicity thus one hardly hears about them. But I can assure, they are there and I know many of them on a personal basis.

As for the multi-million, I forgot to put in Euros or Dollars, depending on the funding agency. And rest assured, to be awarded such grants, is not a mean feat.

On the rest, I agree with you and detest those that think that they have reached some great heights, just because they say so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/joe-vella-gauci-is-now-a-grand-prior/#comment-1326943">Emmett Brown</a>.</p>
<p>The ones that appear on Xarabank and climb mountains, are not within that group that are leaders in their field. And by leaders, I do not mean in Malta or within the Maltese University. These scientists and researchers who literally work late hours without extra remuneration, are seen and respected as leaders within the international community. They are not interested in cheap publicity thus one hardly hears about them. But I can assure, they are there and I know many of them on a personal basis.</p>
<p>As for the multi-million, I forgot to put in Euros or Dollars, depending on the funding agency. And rest assured, to be awarded such grants, is not a mean feat.</p>
<p>On the rest, I agree with you and detest those that think that they have reached some great heights, just because they say so.</p>
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		By: Seriously		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seriously]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously, the Order of St Lazarus in Malta is self-styled to say the least.

Serious researcher, readers, please read Guy Stair Saintly&#039;s works on the history of the True and self styled orders.

http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/self-styled/lazarus.htm

The Head of the Order is none other then HRH, Duc d&#039;Anjou a member of the Bourbon-Orleans branch of the French Royal family.

Anyone that joins the Malta chapter has like so many other orders in Malta wasted their money on a peice of paper stated they are something other then common people.

To add further insult, the Pope only recognises the Order of St Lazarus that is headed by HRH, Duc d&#039;Anjou.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, the Order of St Lazarus in Malta is self-styled to say the least.</p>
<p>Serious researcher, readers, please read Guy Stair Saintly&#8217;s works on the history of the True and self styled orders.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/self-styled/lazarus.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.chivalricorders.org/orders/self-styled/lazarus.htm</a></p>
<p>The Head of the Order is none other then HRH, Duc d&#8217;Anjou a member of the Bourbon-Orleans branch of the French Royal family.</p>
<p>Anyone that joins the Malta chapter has like so many other orders in Malta wasted their money on a peice of paper stated they are something other then common people.</p>
<p>To add further insult, the Pope only recognises the Order of St Lazarus that is headed by HRH, Duc d&#8217;Anjou.</p>
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		By: monitor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 00:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They will have an Ethiopian Prince as their Grand Master in 2014 - see http://www.leaders-21.com/contentimages/docs/Malta_April_2013.pdf - even though in the same document it says the order was set up in 1995.

I wonder who is pocketing all the &lt;em&gt;misati&lt;/em&gt; and admission fees?

Also they boast: &quot;It is indeed a great achievement by all our members to register the fact that today the local Lazarite presence in Malta and Gozo is indeed the biggest concentration of members within a chivalric organisation operating on the islands.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will have an Ethiopian Prince as their Grand Master in 2014 &#8211; see <a href="http://www.leaders-21.com/contentimages/docs/Malta_April_2013.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.leaders-21.com/contentimages/docs/Malta_April_2013.pdf</a> &#8211; even though in the same document it says the order was set up in 1995.</p>
<p>I wonder who is pocketing all the <em>misati</em> and admission fees?</p>
<p>Also they boast: &#8220;It is indeed a great achievement by all our members to register the fact that today the local Lazarite presence in Malta and Gozo is indeed the biggest concentration of members within a chivalric organisation operating on the islands.&#8221;</p>
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		By: monitor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And on same page a homage to Monsignor Vella Gauci: 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The Grand Hospitaller of the Order, the The Very Reverend Monsignor Joseph Vella Gauci ECLJ CMLJ. Apart from his prestigious position within the Catholic Commission of the Bishop’s Conferences of the European Community, the Grand Hospitaller’s genuine belief and academic background related to ecumenism and inter-faith dialogue proved to be essential in furthering the spiritual growth of the Order in harmony with the various Christian denominations embraced by its members.&quot;
&lt;/em&gt;
Who are they kidding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on same page a homage to Monsignor Vella Gauci: </p>
<p><em>&#8220;The Grand Hospitaller of the Order, the The Very Reverend Monsignor Joseph Vella Gauci ECLJ CMLJ. Apart from his prestigious position within the Catholic Commission of the Bishop’s Conferences of the European Community, the Grand Hospitaller’s genuine belief and academic background related to ecumenism and inter-faith dialogue proved to be essential in furthering the spiritual growth of the Order in harmony with the various Christian denominations embraced by its members.&#8221;<br />
</em><br />
Who are they kidding.</p>
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		By: monitor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[His uncle is Grand Chaplain: http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Supreme%20Grand%20Priory.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His uncle is Grand Chaplain: <a href="http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Supreme%20Grand%20Priory.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Supreme%20Grand%20Priory.html</a></p>
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		By: Chlamys an		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chlamys an]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Order of St Lazarus, set up by failed Labour candidate and failed rock band promoter Massimo &#039;Max&#039; Ellul. Lovely. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Order of St Lazarus, set up by failed Labour candidate and failed rock band promoter Massimo &#8216;Max&#8217; Ellul. Lovely. </p>
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		By: Mikiel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These so called gentlemen seem to have suffered so much in the past years. Such hunger and piety.  And now they even have the time to play knights &#038; chevaliers complete with crosses, capes and grand eloquent titles. Some even with princesses.  

Kemm hawn min ihosshu fuq din il-blata f&#039;nofs il-Mediterran. Titli biss.  Minn jigradwa bl&#039;unuri ghal BA Hons (sic), minn professor u min grand prior, inkredibli.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These so called gentlemen seem to have suffered so much in the past years. Such hunger and piety.  And now they even have the time to play knights &amp; chevaliers complete with crosses, capes and grand eloquent titles. Some even with princesses.  </p>
<p>Kemm hawn min ihosshu fuq din il-blata f&#8217;nofs il-Mediterran. Titli biss.  Minn jigradwa bl&#8217;unuri ghal BA Hons (sic), minn professor u min grand prior, inkredibli.</p>
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		By: Emmett Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emmett Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 19:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually the Cottonera one is not a Priory but the Cotoner Commandery.

To complete this Maltese vegetable soup there seems to be two Orders with similar if not identical names:

http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Grand%20Priories.html

And

http://www.st-lazarus.net/international/index.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Cottonera one is not a Priory but the Cotoner Commandery.</p>
<p>To complete this Maltese vegetable soup there seems to be two Orders with similar if not identical names:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Grand%20Priories.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.saintlazarus.org/pages/Grand%20Priories.html</a></p>
<p>And</p>
<p><a href="http://www.st-lazarus.net/international/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.st-lazarus.net/international/index.html</a></p>
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		By: Emmett Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emmett Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And the grand prior of Malta as distinct from Gozo is Monsignor Anton Gauci, his uncle. And there is also a grand priory of Cottonera. Both sport the coloured Maltese ensign that should only be used by the President&#039;s office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the grand prior of Malta as distinct from Gozo is Monsignor Anton Gauci, his uncle. And there is also a grand priory of Cottonera. Both sport the coloured Maltese ensign that should only be used by the President&#8217;s office.</p>
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