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	Comments on: Norman Vella petitions the courts to order the police to relinquish his mobile phone and tablet which they have abusively sequestered and retained	</title>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

I see you and I understand each other. Especially the bit about being labelled a Laburist just because you criticise Gonzi. 

Lawrence Gonzi built an extremely dangerous environment around him, where loyalty was equated with fawning praise, sometimes to the detriment of the truth. Anything else and you were a Labour voter. Or worse, anti-patriotic.

I&#039;m glad he&#039;s gone. Simon Busuttil may have many faults but he is not seen as the Messiah by the grassroots and the party hierarchy. Good. There are no Salvaturi in politics. It&#039;s hard, sheer, bloody graft all the way. It&#039;s bad enough that we have political dynastic families (the Demarcos, the Mifsud Bonnicis and the Fenech Adamis).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>I see you and I understand each other. Especially the bit about being labelled a Laburist just because you criticise Gonzi. </p>
<p>Lawrence Gonzi built an extremely dangerous environment around him, where loyalty was equated with fawning praise, sometimes to the detriment of the truth. Anything else and you were a Labour voter. Or worse, anti-patriotic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s gone. Simon Busuttil may have many faults but he is not seen as the Messiah by the grassroots and the party hierarchy. Good. There are no Salvaturi in politics. It&#8217;s hard, sheer, bloody graft all the way. It&#8217;s bad enough that we have political dynastic families (the Demarcos, the Mifsud Bonnicis and the Fenech Adamis).</p>
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		By: Osservatore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Osservatore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

Not me, Baxxter. I have not had anything nice to say about  Gonzi since 2005 and have definitely made lots of negative comments since my return to Malta in 2007 when a downhill trend was already clearly visible and soon to be evidenced in 2008. 

Although I voted PN in 2008 and in 2013, I did so only out of a sense of self preservation, knowing that Malta would be in better hands under their stewardship. Better hands, does not mean good hands, it simply implies that I preferred the lesser of two evils. 

At reunions with family or friends, most of whom are staunch Nationalist, I was often called ungrateful and accused of taking the PN and Lawrence Gonzi for granted. Some even believed that my dislike for Gonzi even meant that I would be voting Labour.

Truth be said, Gonzi was the better replacement for Fenech Adami, who was a great leader in the face of political adversity, but was past his due date in 2004. Again, better implies that he was the lesser of the two evils (think Dalli evil as the other alternative) and definitely, the only ace up the PN&#039;s sleeve at the time. 

However, since Malta&#039;s accession to the EU, Gonzi failed to do anything other than administer the benefits of EU membership. And for all the benefits that were indeed administered, that is the point, at which the PN lost its real political raison d&#039;etre and became a caretaker. 

It rested on its laurels, boasted about the &#039;certificates&#039; that it was receiving, stopped looking after itself, its people, the electorate, and it lost the plot. It&#039;s been downhill for them ever since. Ever since 2008, the 2013 results were a dead cert, and Gonzi did nothing to change that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>Not me, Baxxter. I have not had anything nice to say about  Gonzi since 2005 and have definitely made lots of negative comments since my return to Malta in 2007 when a downhill trend was already clearly visible and soon to be evidenced in 2008. </p>
<p>Although I voted PN in 2008 and in 2013, I did so only out of a sense of self preservation, knowing that Malta would be in better hands under their stewardship. Better hands, does not mean good hands, it simply implies that I preferred the lesser of two evils. </p>
<p>At reunions with family or friends, most of whom are staunch Nationalist, I was often called ungrateful and accused of taking the PN and Lawrence Gonzi for granted. Some even believed that my dislike for Gonzi even meant that I would be voting Labour.</p>
<p>Truth be said, Gonzi was the better replacement for Fenech Adami, who was a great leader in the face of political adversity, but was past his due date in 2004. Again, better implies that he was the lesser of the two evils (think Dalli evil as the other alternative) and definitely, the only ace up the PN&#8217;s sleeve at the time. </p>
<p>However, since Malta&#8217;s accession to the EU, Gonzi failed to do anything other than administer the benefits of EU membership. And for all the benefits that were indeed administered, that is the point, at which the PN lost its real political raison d&#8217;etre and became a caretaker. </p>
<p>It rested on its laurels, boasted about the &#8216;certificates&#8217; that it was receiving, stopped looking after itself, its people, the electorate, and it lost the plot. It&#8217;s been downhill for them ever since. Ever since 2008, the 2013 results were a dead cert, and Gonzi did nothing to change that.</p>
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		By: kev		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 02:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not so fast with that rikors, Aquilina &#038; Comodini. The phone and tablet need to be thoroughly scanned. You never know what a fishing expedition might unearth. Anything dispelling the need for El Manos to publicly condemn his Keystone non-starters is definitely a starter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so fast with that rikors, Aquilina &amp; Comodini. The phone and tablet need to be thoroughly scanned. You never know what a fishing expedition might unearth. Anything dispelling the need for El Manos to publicly condemn his Keystone non-starters is definitely a starter.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334879&quot;&gt;Rahal&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re wrong. Xarabank is Labour&#039;s greatest asset. Peppi Azzopardi finished the idiotification that Mintoff started. As long as there&#039;s Xarabank, there will be idiocracy, and Labour will be the natural majority party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334879">Rahal</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong. Xarabank is Labour&#8217;s greatest asset. Peppi Azzopardi finished the idiotification that Mintoff started. As long as there&#8217;s Xarabank, there will be idiocracy, and Labour will be the natural majority party.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

I dunno. Ask Lawrence Gonzi. You people were always praising him to high heaven and look what the party&#039;s come to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334851">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>I dunno. Ask Lawrence Gonzi. You people were always praising him to high heaven and look what the party&#8217;s come to.</p>
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		By: verita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[verita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 1977 a group of Maltese students of Arabic were taken to Libya on holiday.The youngest student (12 years old) took some pictures of buildings in the main square and the camera was confiscated .That was under Gaddafi`s regime.The Maltese authorities are doing much worse because no pictures were takenby Norman.Another frame up Pietru pawl style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1977 a group of Maltese students of Arabic were taken to Libya on holiday.The youngest student (12 years old) took some pictures of buildings in the main square and the camera was confiscated .That was under Gaddafi`s regime.The Maltese authorities are doing much worse because no pictures were takenby Norman.Another frame up Pietru pawl style.</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334383&quot;&gt;ron&lt;/a&gt;.

Le, jibqa&#039; li johorgu nies mejtin mid-depot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334383">ron</a>.</p>
<p>Le, jibqa&#8217; li johorgu nies mejtin mid-depot.</p>
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		By: Rahal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rahal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334787&quot;&gt;zunzana&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t be deceived.  Labour will not knock off all the programs of Where&#039;s Everybody.  Not in one go at least.  All in harmony with their pseudo liberal policy.  

They do it just the same but gradually and over time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334787">zunzana</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be deceived.  Labour will not knock off all the programs of Where&#8217;s Everybody.  Not in one go at least.  All in harmony with their pseudo liberal policy.  </p>
<p>They do it just the same but gradually and over time.</p>
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		By: Osservatore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Osservatore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334345&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Screw Where&#039;s Everybody. What I really want to know is where is the PN?

If they do not make themselves heard now, then they may forever stay silent as far as I am concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334345">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Screw Where&#8217;s Everybody. What I really want to know is where is the PN?</p>
<p>If they do not make themselves heard now, then they may forever stay silent as far as I am concerned.</p>
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		By: Watchful eye		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Watchful eye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334447&quot;&gt;Alexander Ball&lt;/a&gt;.

Mr Loporto, the police did not think that a crime was committed. 

Someone else decided so and alerted the police. And the police in all their wisdom proceeded to arrest Mr Vella. How about someone inventing something against you and you find the police knocking on your door and arresting you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/10/norman-vella-petitions-the-courts-to-order-the-police-to-relinquish-his-mobile-phone-and-tablet-which-they-have-abusively-sequestered-and-retained/#comment-1334447">Alexander Ball</a>.</p>
<p>Mr Loporto, the police did not think that a crime was committed. </p>
<p>Someone else decided so and alerted the police. And the police in all their wisdom proceeded to arrest Mr Vella. How about someone inventing something against you and you find the police knocking on your door and arresting you?</p>
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