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		By: Salvu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salvu]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354787&quot;&gt;albona&lt;/a&gt;.

http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2013-11-13/news/secret-citizens-eligible-to-vote-3173777415/?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook

Joseph Muscat confirms that these new citizens have a right to vote.

At the same time, the government is insisting that the list of these new citizens must be kept secret.

In democratic scenarios, that&#039;s perfectly illogical. How can it be ? Special secret polling booth/s in embassies run by super one envoys maybe ?

While writing this, I an telling myself .... &quot;Tesagerax, Salv&quot; 

Hold on, but what if there is a further illogical twist to all this ? What if they have in mind of adding fictitious names to that list ? Each name/vote would &#039;only&#039; cost the government 25k+ euros. There is nothing to stop them from grouping these extra votes in bunches of extra large families.

Should we just &#039;trust&#039; Joseph Muscat - like Marlene Farrugia did - that our Prime Minister was never thinking along those lines from day one?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354787">albona</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2013-11-13/news/secret-citizens-eligible-to-vote-3173777415/?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2013-11-13/news/secret-citizens-eligible-to-vote-3173777415/?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook</a></p>
<p>Joseph Muscat confirms that these new citizens have a right to vote.</p>
<p>At the same time, the government is insisting that the list of these new citizens must be kept secret.</p>
<p>In democratic scenarios, that&#8217;s perfectly illogical. How can it be ? Special secret polling booth/s in embassies run by super one envoys maybe ?</p>
<p>While writing this, I an telling myself &#8230;. &#8220;Tesagerax, Salv&#8221; </p>
<p>Hold on, but what if there is a further illogical twist to all this ? What if they have in mind of adding fictitious names to that list ? Each name/vote would &#8216;only&#8217; cost the government 25k+ euros. There is nothing to stop them from grouping these extra votes in bunches of extra large families.</p>
<p>Should we just &#8216;trust&#8217; Joseph Muscat &#8211; like Marlene Farrugia did &#8211; that our Prime Minister was never thinking along those lines from day one?</p>
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		By: carlos bonavia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carlos bonavia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1353949&quot;&gt;ciccio&lt;/a&gt;.

Wouldn&#039;t that &quot; donation &quot; to Enemalta&#039;s coffers by the Chinese cover the cost of a lot of passports?

Another riddle from Malta&#039;s prime ponce to unravel?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1353949">ciccio</a>.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that &#8221; donation &#8221; to Enemalta&#8217;s coffers by the Chinese cover the cost of a lot of passports?</p>
<p>Another riddle from Malta&#8217;s prime ponce to unravel?</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1355660&quot;&gt;La Redoute&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I am pretty sure that the 2010 Memorandum of Understanding already contained the agreement about the sale of citizenship to the Chinese.

But I also believe that the delivery by the Chinese on the September 2013 MOU must be based on the delivery by the Labour government of its part of the deal about the passports.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1355660">La Redoute</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I am pretty sure that the 2010 Memorandum of Understanding already contained the agreement about the sale of citizenship to the Chinese.</p>
<p>But I also believe that the delivery by the Chinese on the September 2013 MOU must be based on the delivery by the Labour government of its part of the deal about the passports.</p>
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		By: Osservatore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Osservatore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

La Redoute, the US marines have a saying - Lead, follow or get out of the way. For those of us that do not have the time to lead, or perhaps the drive to lead single handed, then the next best thing is to follow.

Bur let&#039;s assume that as a private individual, with the support of a few trusted others, I was to start a petition to collect sufficient votes to force a referendum? Who is going to support such an initiative from a person who is a political nobody?  Now if the PN had to start said petition, they would manage it within a week or two.

Yes La Redoute, it is a whinge. I would rather be shaking my fist in the street in front of Castille showing that this proposal angers and upsets me. But instead I have voted for a party that has chosen a leader who frankly, does not have what it takes to mobilise the sizeable part of the electorate that still supports the PN and who are surely, mostly against this scheme.

So what now...do we have to do the PNs job too? I like many others had once sworn to keep out of politics. Do I need to dirty my hands? 

(Pls excuse typos...typed on mobile!!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>La Redoute, the US marines have a saying &#8211; Lead, follow or get out of the way. For those of us that do not have the time to lead, or perhaps the drive to lead single handed, then the next best thing is to follow.</p>
<p>Bur let&#8217;s assume that as a private individual, with the support of a few trusted others, I was to start a petition to collect sufficient votes to force a referendum? Who is going to support such an initiative from a person who is a political nobody?  Now if the PN had to start said petition, they would manage it within a week or two.</p>
<p>Yes La Redoute, it is a whinge. I would rather be shaking my fist in the street in front of Castille showing that this proposal angers and upsets me. But instead I have voted for a party that has chosen a leader who frankly, does not have what it takes to mobilise the sizeable part of the electorate that still supports the PN and who are surely, mostly against this scheme.</p>
<p>So what now&#8230;do we have to do the PNs job too? I like many others had once sworn to keep out of politics. Do I need to dirty my hands? </p>
<p>(Pls excuse typos&#8230;typed on mobile!!)</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 01:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

I dare not identify the only remaining course of action, because it is too terrible to contemplate But that is the only choice left to us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>I dare not identify the only remaining course of action, because it is too terrible to contemplate But that is the only choice left to us.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

Why do so many people think through their nether regions? &quot;Lead and I shall follow&quot; is not a battle-cry. It is a whinge.

If you want the law to be abrogated, start up a petition. The PN won&#039;t do that for you, nor should it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>Why do so many people think through their nether regions? &#8220;Lead and I shall follow&#8221; is not a battle-cry. It is a whinge.</p>
<p>If you want the law to be abrogated, start up a petition. The PN won&#8217;t do that for you, nor should it.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 23:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1353870&quot;&gt;ciccio&lt;/a&gt;.

Who says it was in the September 2013 Memorandum of Understanding?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1353870">ciccio</a>.</p>
<p>Who says it was in the September 2013 Memorandum of Understanding?</p>
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		By: We are living in Financial Times		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We are living in Financial Times]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 23:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354217&quot;&gt;It All Stinks&lt;/a&gt;.

And alongside that of Shiv Nair, the hand of both his local and foreign partners.  The local ones who are aiding and abetting, the foreign ones who are steering.

The NP is not simply fighting another Malta party, it is fighting a battle that is far bigger.  This is like pitting David against Goliath.

The stakes have gotten out of hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354217">It All Stinks</a>.</p>
<p>And alongside that of Shiv Nair, the hand of both his local and foreign partners.  The local ones who are aiding and abetting, the foreign ones who are steering.</p>
<p>The NP is not simply fighting another Malta party, it is fighting a battle that is far bigger.  This is like pitting David against Goliath.</p>
<p>The stakes have gotten out of hand.</p>
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		By: albona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[albona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354868&quot;&gt;Censa&lt;/a&gt;.

One of the most fundamental rights that citizenship confers on the citizen is the right to vote. Rules regarding the right to vote (for example South Africans can vote regardless of how long they have resided abroad I believe) vary by country. 

At the moment Malta does not allow overseas voters — or at least restrictions apply — and I am not sure how easy it would be to change that. 

However, they could introduce voting at embassies, who knows. Frankly, I can&#039;t be bothered checking. However, just to reiterate my point, the right to vote and the right to parliamentary representation is intrinsically linked to citizenship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354868">Censa</a>.</p>
<p>One of the most fundamental rights that citizenship confers on the citizen is the right to vote. Rules regarding the right to vote (for example South Africans can vote regardless of how long they have resided abroad I believe) vary by country. </p>
<p>At the moment Malta does not allow overseas voters — or at least restrictions apply — and I am not sure how easy it would be to change that. </p>
<p>However, they could introduce voting at embassies, who knows. Frankly, I can&#8217;t be bothered checking. However, just to reiterate my point, the right to vote and the right to parliamentary representation is intrinsically linked to citizenship.</p>
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		By: Bubu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 21:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435&quot;&gt;Osservatore&lt;/a&gt;.

Keep on dreaming, Osservatore. The PN is broken right now. They haven&#039;t finished picking up the pieces yet, let alone putting them back together. 

Nothing can be done, Baxxter. The citizenship battle cannot be won at the moment. 

But timing is everything in a war. And make no mistake - politics is war, and this war is not yet lost. These are just small skirmishes. 

Labour think they can do whatever they want because they won with a landslide - and they are right.  There is nothing that can stop them at this early stage, but what has been emerging, thanks to Daphne, is that, even in their moment of victory, their hands are tied. 

They have so many commitments and promises to honour that they cannot help tying themselves up in knots the further they go with the legislature. 

Daphne is doing the best thing that can be done right now. Hound them incessantly. At the slightest misstep they find Daphne putting it all out for posterity - and for reference in another four years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2013/11/its-bad-form-to-say-i-told-you-so-but-at-this-stage-i-dont-really-care/#comment-1354435">Osservatore</a>.</p>
<p>Keep on dreaming, Osservatore. The PN is broken right now. They haven&#8217;t finished picking up the pieces yet, let alone putting them back together. </p>
<p>Nothing can be done, Baxxter. The citizenship battle cannot be won at the moment. </p>
<p>But timing is everything in a war. And make no mistake &#8211; politics is war, and this war is not yet lost. These are just small skirmishes. </p>
<p>Labour think they can do whatever they want because they won with a landslide &#8211; and they are right.  There is nothing that can stop them at this early stage, but what has been emerging, thanks to Daphne, is that, even in their moment of victory, their hands are tied. </p>
<p>They have so many commitments and promises to honour that they cannot help tying themselves up in knots the further they go with the legislature. </p>
<p>Daphne is doing the best thing that can be done right now. Hound them incessantly. At the slightest misstep they find Daphne putting it all out for posterity &#8211; and for reference in another four years.</p>
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