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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558717&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree: it is not for the Prime Minister to enter that discourse.

Daphne says: &quot;Let’s put it plainly. Normal, evolved Europeans don’t LOVE any national holiday. The sentiment is totalitarian, either to the far left or the far right, communist or fascist. &quot;

I suggest also the following version: &quot;Let’s put it plainly. In normal, evolved European countries, the prime minister doesn&#039;t tell the public what to do and what not.  The sentiment is totalitarian, either to the far left or the far right, communist or fascist. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558717">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>I agree: it is not for the Prime Minister to enter that discourse.</p>
<p>Daphne says: &#8220;Let’s put it plainly. Normal, evolved Europeans don’t LOVE any national holiday. The sentiment is totalitarian, either to the far left or the far right, communist or fascist. &#8221;</p>
<p>I suggest also the following version: &#8220;Let’s put it plainly. In normal, evolved European countries, the prime minister doesn&#8217;t tell the public what to do and what not.  The sentiment is totalitarian, either to the far left or the far right, communist or fascist. &#8220;</p>
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		By: Clueless		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558728&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

I read a string of English words but cannot make out what you mean.

The concepts of imported inflation and international price fluctuations are still not grasped by vast swathes of the population to this day. Look at the way the electorate blamed the previous government for the utility tariffs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558728">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>I read a string of English words but cannot make out what you mean.</p>
<p>The concepts of imported inflation and international price fluctuations are still not grasped by vast swathes of the population to this day. Look at the way the electorate blamed the previous government for the utility tariffs.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558954&quot;&gt;albona&lt;/a&gt;.

That article bore a stupid title. If it reflected the main thrust of Charles Dalli&#039;s lecture, then that was stupid too. There are plenty of traces of Jewish presence in Malta, from our surnames, to our genetics, to documentary evidence. If he couldn&#039;t see all this, then that&#039;s his problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558954">albona</a>.</p>
<p>That article bore a stupid title. If it reflected the main thrust of Charles Dalli&#8217;s lecture, then that was stupid too. There are plenty of traces of Jewish presence in Malta, from our surnames, to our genetics, to documentary evidence. If he couldn&#8217;t see all this, then that&#8217;s his problem.</p>
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		By: Chris Ripard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with national unity per se. However, humble little me can only do so much.

Would our PM not have been a tad more believable had he appointed a heck of a lot more valid neutral or - why not - PN oriented people (apart from that Gozitan, Italian-supporter)?

As we say in the vernacular &quot;il-kelma tqanqal, imma l-ezempju jkaxkar&quot;. Over to you PM!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with national unity per se. However, humble little me can only do so much.</p>
<p>Would our PM not have been a tad more believable had he appointed a heck of a lot more valid neutral or &#8211; why not &#8211; PN oriented people (apart from that Gozitan, Italian-supporter)?</p>
<p>As we say in the vernacular &#8220;il-kelma tqanqal, imma l-ezempju jkaxkar&#8221;. Over to you PM!</p>
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		By: albona		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will let those nationalities with massive chips on their shoulders such as the Croats and Serbs enjoy the chest beating that they normally enjoy on days like this. 

I have my own &#039;national days&#039; I enjoy in silence that no one is aware of. Admittedly very sad, but having said that there are so many other events worth celebrating that have no following because they can&#039;t stir up emotions in idiots with a need to belong to one camp or another.

Most Maltese people wouldn&#039;t know the first thing about their own history bar some &#039;facts&#039; they were taught by idiotic history teachers expounding the nonsense that the Maltese are somehow Phoenician. People would believe anything. 

Articles such as the one about the Jewish presence in Malta published in The Malta Independent yesterday are never read by the masses. No one cares. They get by on a diet of jingoism and fictitious historic narratives. 

International news is equally unread. In fact I would suggest that newspapers take a leaf out of the book of an Italian newspaper which has decided to call the section: &#039;Esteri - le notizie che gli italiani non leggono mai&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will let those nationalities with massive chips on their shoulders such as the Croats and Serbs enjoy the chest beating that they normally enjoy on days like this. </p>
<p>I have my own &#8216;national days&#8217; I enjoy in silence that no one is aware of. Admittedly very sad, but having said that there are so many other events worth celebrating that have no following because they can&#8217;t stir up emotions in idiots with a need to belong to one camp or another.</p>
<p>Most Maltese people wouldn&#8217;t know the first thing about their own history bar some &#8216;facts&#8217; they were taught by idiotic history teachers expounding the nonsense that the Maltese are somehow Phoenician. People would believe anything. </p>
<p>Articles such as the one about the Jewish presence in Malta published in The Malta Independent yesterday are never read by the masses. No one cares. They get by on a diet of jingoism and fictitious historic narratives. </p>
<p>International news is equally unread. In fact I would suggest that newspapers take a leaf out of the book of an Italian newspaper which has decided to call the section: &#8216;Esteri &#8211; le notizie che gli italiani non leggono mai&#8217;.</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558717&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s not what Muscat himself thinks. He told us that it&#039;s Louis Grech duty to deliver, didn&#039;t he?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558717">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what Muscat himself thinks. He told us that it&#8217;s Louis Grech duty to deliver, didn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558728&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

So that justifies turning it into a national day?

Not even the superpatriotic Indians were foolish enough to turn the Amritsar massacre into a national holiday.

As long as the 7th June (sod &quot;sett Giugno&quot;. What are we, bloody Italians?) remains a national holiday, it will give comfort to and provide grist to the mill for those hundreds of Fascist sympathisers who call themselves &#039;Maltese nationalists&#039;.

What&#039;s your interest in the matter anyway? I think it&#039;s time you came clean. Was your grandfather a close friend of Enrico Mizzi or what?

My people were working class labourers and peasants back then, and those Italianate lawyers with their espressos at the Casino Maltese gave not a single fuck about the betterment of their condition. All they wanted was a comfortable berth for themselves as princelings in a future Italian colony, perhaps with a few jackboots thrown in for extra pleasure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558728">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>So that justifies turning it into a national day?</p>
<p>Not even the superpatriotic Indians were foolish enough to turn the Amritsar massacre into a national holiday.</p>
<p>As long as the 7th June (sod &#8220;sett Giugno&#8221;. What are we, bloody Italians?) remains a national holiday, it will give comfort to and provide grist to the mill for those hundreds of Fascist sympathisers who call themselves &#8216;Maltese nationalists&#8217;.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your interest in the matter anyway? I think it&#8217;s time you came clean. Was your grandfather a close friend of Enrico Mizzi or what?</p>
<p>My people were working class labourers and peasants back then, and those Italianate lawyers with their espressos at the Casino Maltese gave not a single fuck about the betterment of their condition. All they wanted was a comfortable berth for themselves as princelings in a future Italian colony, perhaps with a few jackboots thrown in for extra pleasure.</p>
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		By: Coronado		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coronado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558861&quot;&gt;Coronado&lt;/a&gt;.

Why not make it five with the &quot;Otto Settembre&quot; or &quot;Victory Day (by whom over whom ? ).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558861">Coronado</a>.</p>
<p>Why not make it five with the &#8220;Otto Settembre&#8221; or &#8220;Victory Day (by whom over whom ? ).</p>
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		By: Coronado		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558589&quot;&gt;Nutter&lt;/a&gt;.

I did not forget anything as Daphne has explained the perceived and real significance of - is it one, two, three, or four  (including Sette Giugno ) -  our &quot;national days&quot;. I just gave some historical background when, even after being elected in June 1971, Mintoff managed to ruin our celebration of Christmas and New Year, big time, first time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558589">Nutter</a>.</p>
<p>I did not forget anything as Daphne has explained the perceived and real significance of &#8211; is it one, two, three, or four  (including Sette Giugno ) &#8211;  our &#8220;national days&#8221;. I just gave some historical background when, even after being elected in June 1971, Mintoff managed to ruin our celebration of Christmas and New Year, big time, first time.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558516&quot;&gt;Coronado&lt;/a&gt;.

It always amazes me how the Maltese, that stupid nation, include the Mediterranean and themselves in the paradigm of the Cold War.

If push came to shove, the Mediterranean wouldn&#039;t even have been a side theatre in the Third World War. It wouldn&#039;t even have figured. Sigonella and Akrotiri were just sops thrown to the respective national governments - the US and UK paid millions in renting out those bases, and they still do. 

As for that little kerfuffle in Israel, where was the naval action off Malta&#039;s shores, pray?

Mintoff has shaped Maltese historiography in a such disgustingly perverse way that even those who argue against him start off from the wrong premiss. We have two generations of students brainwashed into that. Who can forget Ernle Bradford&#039;s &#039;Mediterranean&#039;? Utter wordy stupidity in textbook form.  

The centre of the Med became irrelevant after 1945. Malta is an irrelevant speck of rock in an irrelevant region on the edge of everything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/02/spare-us-the-tripe-please-normal-people-in-civilised-democracies-dont-love-national-holidays/#comment-1558516">Coronado</a>.</p>
<p>It always amazes me how the Maltese, that stupid nation, include the Mediterranean and themselves in the paradigm of the Cold War.</p>
<p>If push came to shove, the Mediterranean wouldn&#8217;t even have been a side theatre in the Third World War. It wouldn&#8217;t even have figured. Sigonella and Akrotiri were just sops thrown to the respective national governments &#8211; the US and UK paid millions in renting out those bases, and they still do. </p>
<p>As for that little kerfuffle in Israel, where was the naval action off Malta&#8217;s shores, pray?</p>
<p>Mintoff has shaped Maltese historiography in a such disgustingly perverse way that even those who argue against him start off from the wrong premiss. We have two generations of students brainwashed into that. Who can forget Ernle Bradford&#8217;s &#8216;Mediterranean&#8217;? Utter wordy stupidity in textbook form.  </p>
<p>The centre of the Med became irrelevant after 1945. Malta is an irrelevant speck of rock in an irrelevant region on the edge of everything.</p>
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