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	Comments on: Ah, so we&#8217;re supposed to believe he fell/jumped off that cliff, landed on that rock&#8230;and then spent just a couple of days in hospital	</title>
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		By: Nokkla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nokkla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1679496&quot;&gt;Matthew Pace&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe he used his trousers to parachute his way down, sort of a MacGyver manouevre. That would explain the mystery of the missing trousers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1679496">Matthew Pace</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe he used his trousers to parachute his way down, sort of a MacGyver manouevre. That would explain the mystery of the missing trousers.</p>
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		By: Nokkla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nokkla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677738&quot;&gt;Michelangelo&lt;/a&gt;.

Shame on us because we are not as gullible as Times of Malta or PBS would have us be? Really?

Shame because we are expressing our feelings about the death and mistreatment of a vulnerable girl? 

Shame because we think that a teacher should never have been at Dingli Cliffs with his pupil, in his car, at 4am? 

Shame because we are disgusted that he had certain pictures of her, and that he had a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old? 

I think you&#039;re a bit confused as to who should feel shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677738">Michelangelo</a>.</p>
<p>Shame on us because we are not as gullible as Times of Malta or PBS would have us be? Really?</p>
<p>Shame because we are expressing our feelings about the death and mistreatment of a vulnerable girl? </p>
<p>Shame because we think that a teacher should never have been at Dingli Cliffs with his pupil, in his car, at 4am? </p>
<p>Shame because we are disgusted that he had certain pictures of her, and that he had a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old? </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re a bit confused as to who should feel shame.</p>
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		By: Nokkla		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1700317</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nokkla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677525&quot;&gt;Josette&lt;/a&gt;.

Sadly that&#039;s what I&#039;m thinking too - that the poor girl was trying to escape from this creep when she fell or he pushed her, and the creep then decided to fake a fall of his own.

That would also explain the fact that he was in his underpants, although the bit about the locked car still doesn&#039;t make sense. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677525">Josette</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m thinking too &#8211; that the poor girl was trying to escape from this creep when she fell or he pushed her, and the creep then decided to fake a fall of his own.</p>
<p>That would also explain the fact that he was in his underpants, although the bit about the locked car still doesn&#8217;t make sense. </p>
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		By: Caroline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 23:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know the Daily Mail uploads a lot of rubbish but overlooking the debate on whether this is newsworthy or not, we definitely should compare and contrast.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595346/Troublemaker-teacher-sacked-branding-pupils-feral-calling-one-schoolgirl-cowface-series-Twitter-rants.html

In my view, there are no possible excuses for this &quot;teacher&quot; in behaving the way he did. 

However, from day one of this tragedy for the 15-year-old girl I couldn&#039;t help thinking that it is impossible that no one was aware of the situation. 

This is after all a tiny island where it is impossible to do anything without coming across someone you know.

In fact it has been implied that they were known to hang out together. Moreover, the missing persons report featured on newspapers certainly gave the impression that they had gone missing together. 

Does this therefore imply that the families were aware of their &quot;relationship&quot;? If so, how could it not have been reported to the appropriate authorities? Why do most people, especially parents, believe that they should not report such instances in order to deal with the matter in-house. 

Just because a person becomes a parent does not automatically mean that parents are equipped to handle all situations which may arise. What is so wrong in asking for help? 

Is reporting a clearly wrong situation to the relevant authorities looked down upon as a solution for fear of stigma, taboo, judgement etc? And even if you are branded in a particular way, isn&#039;t that always a better option than losing a loved one, especially in this manner?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Daily Mail uploads a lot of rubbish but overlooking the debate on whether this is newsworthy or not, we definitely should compare and contrast.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595346/Troublemaker-teacher-sacked-branding-pupils-feral-calling-one-schoolgirl-cowface-series-Twitter-rants.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595346/Troublemaker-teacher-sacked-branding-pupils-feral-calling-one-schoolgirl-cowface-series-Twitter-rants.html</a></p>
<p>In my view, there are no possible excuses for this &#8220;teacher&#8221; in behaving the way he did. </p>
<p>However, from day one of this tragedy for the 15-year-old girl I couldn&#8217;t help thinking that it is impossible that no one was aware of the situation. </p>
<p>This is after all a tiny island where it is impossible to do anything without coming across someone you know.</p>
<p>In fact it has been implied that they were known to hang out together. Moreover, the missing persons report featured on newspapers certainly gave the impression that they had gone missing together. </p>
<p>Does this therefore imply that the families were aware of their &#8220;relationship&#8221;? If so, how could it not have been reported to the appropriate authorities? Why do most people, especially parents, believe that they should not report such instances in order to deal with the matter in-house. </p>
<p>Just because a person becomes a parent does not automatically mean that parents are equipped to handle all situations which may arise. What is so wrong in asking for help? </p>
<p>Is reporting a clearly wrong situation to the relevant authorities looked down upon as a solution for fear of stigma, taboo, judgement etc? And even if you are branded in a particular way, isn&#8217;t that always a better option than losing a loved one, especially in this manner?</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677738&quot;&gt;Michelangelo&lt;/a&gt;.

Erin Tanti was Lisa Maria Zahra&#039;s teacher. That - and not being her friend - was his role, whatever he or anyone else may think. As an adult and as a teacher, Tanti had responsibilities towards his minor pupil. Keeping a professional distance was one of them. That excluded meeting her outside school hours, picking her up in his car, keeping her away from home, driving her to Dingli cliffs, doing heaven knows what to her inside and outside his car, with her ending up dead at the bottom of a cliff.

If Tanti&#039;s experience was traumatic and horrific, that is entirely his own fault. He drove his own car to Dingli cliffs in the dead of night. His pupil&#039;s experience was far, far more horrific. Tanti is alive. His pupil&#039;s dead. She didn&#039;t drive herself to Dingli cliffs. He did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1677738">Michelangelo</a>.</p>
<p>Erin Tanti was Lisa Maria Zahra&#8217;s teacher. That &#8211; and not being her friend &#8211; was his role, whatever he or anyone else may think. As an adult and as a teacher, Tanti had responsibilities towards his minor pupil. Keeping a professional distance was one of them. That excluded meeting her outside school hours, picking her up in his car, keeping her away from home, driving her to Dingli cliffs, doing heaven knows what to her inside and outside his car, with her ending up dead at the bottom of a cliff.</p>
<p>If Tanti&#8217;s experience was traumatic and horrific, that is entirely his own fault. He drove his own car to Dingli cliffs in the dead of night. His pupil&#8217;s experience was far, far more horrific. Tanti is alive. His pupil&#8217;s dead. She didn&#8217;t drive herself to Dingli cliffs. He did.</p>
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		By: Dicky Cliffs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dicky Cliffs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1678882&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

Magenbha?

The girl was far away from the rock he so comfortably rested on.

At least Romeo and Juliet lay next to each other when one of them was still alive.

What a stupid 15 year old lot are all those friends who flocked in here to declare how much he cared for her. He most certainly did not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/ah-so-were-supposed-to-believe-he-felljumped-off-that-cliff-landed-on-that-rock-and-then-spent-just-a-couple-of-days-in-hospital/#comment-1678882">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>Magenbha?</p>
<p>The girl was far away from the rock he so comfortably rested on.</p>
<p>At least Romeo and Juliet lay next to each other when one of them was still alive.</p>
<p>What a stupid 15 year old lot are all those friends who flocked in here to declare how much he cared for her. He most certainly did not.</p>
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		By: monica		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[La redoute,

The school did say that he had a teaching warrant! Like Daphne found his crazy posts and photos on Facebook, the school should have done the same. 

Not only that he did not have a warrant but that they let a nut case teach. I&#039;m sure more has to come out about that school. 

This is not the first or second case in that school and they should really start taking care of their pupils and not only the money. I hope the school will be responsible enough now, after what happened, to investigate and make sure that all teachers, from kindergarten to senior level, have a proper warrant. 

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Yes, that&#039;s one thing that needs to be done. But then again, it is the warrant process which needs to be worked on. Vince Taliana has a warrant, and look at him.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La redoute,</p>
<p>The school did say that he had a teaching warrant! Like Daphne found his crazy posts and photos on Facebook, the school should have done the same. </p>
<p>Not only that he did not have a warrant but that they let a nut case teach. I&#8217;m sure more has to come out about that school. </p>
<p>This is not the first or second case in that school and they should really start taking care of their pupils and not only the money. I hope the school will be responsible enough now, after what happened, to investigate and make sure that all teachers, from kindergarten to senior level, have a proper warrant. </p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Yes, that&#8217;s one thing that needs to be done. But then again, it is the warrant process which needs to be worked on. Vince Taliana has a warrant, and look at him.]</strong></p>
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		By: Whoever		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People who intend to commit suicide don&#039;t make any plans for the future. This guy had a whole theatrical play going on so I don&#039;t think suicide is the issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who intend to commit suicide don&#8217;t make any plans for the future. This guy had a whole theatrical play going on so I don&#8217;t think suicide is the issue.</p>
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		By: john zahra		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been following the reports on this tragic incident. I am of the opinion this fellow is a creep. 

To supply a 15 year old girl with aspirins and alcohol, and taking her to a place such as Dingli Cliffs where the possibility of a fall could be fatal is highly irresponsible. 

I am of the opinion the purchase of aspirins and alcohol prior to driving to Dingli Cliffs is a premeditated act to drive the young girl to her eternal life. There are some countries that know how to deal with this obnoxious person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following the reports on this tragic incident. I am of the opinion this fellow is a creep. </p>
<p>To supply a 15 year old girl with aspirins and alcohol, and taking her to a place such as Dingli Cliffs where the possibility of a fall could be fatal is highly irresponsible. </p>
<p>I am of the opinion the purchase of aspirins and alcohol prior to driving to Dingli Cliffs is a premeditated act to drive the young girl to her eternal life. There are some countries that know how to deal with this obnoxious person.</p>
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		By: M.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 00:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If this is true, then I guess we can safely assume that the police NEVER treated the Dingli Cliffs site where Lisa Maria Zahra was found as being a crime scene, and the evidence, if any, was never lifted:

&quot;The two were found injured at the foot of Dingli Cliffs this afternoon. Speaking to MaltaToday, a police spokesperson said foul play was being ruled out. &quot; ( http://www.wwww.maltatoday.com.mt/printversion/37102/#.UzX6VRRwbIU )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is true, then I guess we can safely assume that the police NEVER treated the Dingli Cliffs site where Lisa Maria Zahra was found as being a crime scene, and the evidence, if any, was never lifted:</p>
<p>&#8220;The two were found injured at the foot of Dingli Cliffs this afternoon. Speaking to MaltaToday, a police spokesperson said foul play was being ruled out. &#8221; ( <a href="http://www.wwww.maltatoday.com.mt/printversion/37102/#.UzX6VRRwbIU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.wwww.maltatoday.com.mt/printversion/37102/#.UzX6VRRwbIU</a> )</p>
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