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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690251&quot;&gt;Harry Purdie&lt;/a&gt;.

And Jo mentioned something about an earthquake, too, Harry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690251">Harry Purdie</a>.</p>
<p>And Jo mentioned something about an earthquake, too, Harry.</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690603&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

Time to rebuild our homes with reinforced concrete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690603">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>Time to rebuild our homes with reinforced concrete.</p>
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		By: Pippa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pippa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You see, Eddy Privitera - accidents at LNG plants do happen. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, Eddy Privitera &#8211; accidents at LNG plants do happen. </p>
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		By: Pippa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pippa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The PM is following Mintoff&#039;s steps. The latter once said &quot; nigi nit.....k mill- kostutuzjoni&quot; and the former &quot; jigi jaqa&#039; u jqum mill-poplu Malt&quot;.

Xlukkajri u Birzebbuggin &quot; Viva Joseph. Viva Konrad&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PM is following Mintoff&#8217;s steps. The latter once said &#8221; nigi nit&#8230;..k mill- kostutuzjoni&#8221; and the former &#8221; jigi jaqa&#8217; u jqum mill-poplu Malt&#8221;.</p>
<p>Xlukkajri u Birzebbuggin &#8221; Viva Joseph. Viva Konrad&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1691386&quot;&gt;QahbuMalti&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not a blast radius, it&#039;s the area inside which gas can propagate within its flammable limit.

Instead of being blown to bits, you&#039;re incinerated, the air you breathe alight. 

In Viareggio, a ruptured train truck carrying propane produced a firestorm which raged all night, fire trucks and emergency services unable to get anywhere near some of the streets, petrol tanks in cars parked outside houses ruptured progressively as temperatures rose, fuelling the flames. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqGMEBBygEU

Video shows cars in flames 300 meters from the train station where the gas propagated. And that&#039;s your average road trailer. 

Notice how the station is relatively intact, it was upwind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1691386">QahbuMalti</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a blast radius, it&#8217;s the area inside which gas can propagate within its flammable limit.</p>
<p>Instead of being blown to bits, you&#8217;re incinerated, the air you breathe alight. </p>
<p>In Viareggio, a ruptured train truck carrying propane produced a firestorm which raged all night, fire trucks and emergency services unable to get anywhere near some of the streets, petrol tanks in cars parked outside houses ruptured progressively as temperatures rose, fuelling the flames. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqGMEBBygEU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqGMEBBygEU</a></p>
<p>Video shows cars in flames 300 meters from the train station where the gas propagated. And that&#8217;s your average road trailer. </p>
<p>Notice how the station is relatively intact, it was upwind.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690257&quot;&gt;C Falzon&lt;/a&gt;.

In fact the Gemini has five of those tanks. 

If you look at the plant in question the two tanks are at a considerable distance from each other. 

Not so on a ship which isn&#039;t designed to hold gas permanently moored in a bay. If one of the tanks ruptures, all the others are at risk. 

That&#039;s the reason why all floating storage/regasifiers are placed offshore, gets rid of all third party concerns. One must take into consideration insuring any such idea. Surely this country&#039;s human resources are an asset. 

The question to ask Konrad, Muscat et al is; if a minor incident has to happen on board the ship, what&#039;s the plan? 

The situation in Plymouth is passive monitoring of the situation, they&#039;ve been at it for more than 48 hours now, the same cannot be said possible of Marsaxlokk, how does Konrad plan to manage a similar scenario? 

Risk assessment my ass. This madness has to stop. We can&#039;t allow the spite to take over common sense and rational calculation of all possible situations. 

And don&#039;t give me objectors were absent. 

The argument against this project is very simple, the proposal is the inverse of how it&#039;s done. If a proper risk assessment were in place, the design criteria of the project would render it impossible to execute. 

Anything else is Bhopal or Seveso territory. I think major class action is in order, individuals to be held personally responsible should anything happen. 

That includes all members of the MEPA board who voted for the project without the required reports. reports which results and conclusions would be absolutely predictable.

Muscat has to stand by his letter to the board and what it implies, the one where he states he&#039;ll push on, no matter what. A copy makes the perfect evidence in court. 

How&#039;s that for tixwix?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690257">C Falzon</a>.</p>
<p>In fact the Gemini has five of those tanks. </p>
<p>If you look at the plant in question the two tanks are at a considerable distance from each other. </p>
<p>Not so on a ship which isn&#8217;t designed to hold gas permanently moored in a bay. If one of the tanks ruptures, all the others are at risk. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the reason why all floating storage/regasifiers are placed offshore, gets rid of all third party concerns. One must take into consideration insuring any such idea. Surely this country&#8217;s human resources are an asset. </p>
<p>The question to ask Konrad, Muscat et al is; if a minor incident has to happen on board the ship, what&#8217;s the plan? </p>
<p>The situation in Plymouth is passive monitoring of the situation, they&#8217;ve been at it for more than 48 hours now, the same cannot be said possible of Marsaxlokk, how does Konrad plan to manage a similar scenario? </p>
<p>Risk assessment my ass. This madness has to stop. We can&#8217;t allow the spite to take over common sense and rational calculation of all possible situations. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t give me objectors were absent. </p>
<p>The argument against this project is very simple, the proposal is the inverse of how it&#8217;s done. If a proper risk assessment were in place, the design criteria of the project would render it impossible to execute. </p>
<p>Anything else is Bhopal or Seveso territory. I think major class action is in order, individuals to be held personally responsible should anything happen. </p>
<p>That includes all members of the MEPA board who voted for the project without the required reports. reports which results and conclusions would be absolutely predictable.</p>
<p>Muscat has to stand by his letter to the board and what it implies, the one where he states he&#8217;ll push on, no matter what. A copy makes the perfect evidence in court. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for tixwix?</p>
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		By: observer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690245&quot;&gt;edgar&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, the place involved is in Washington state - on the North West coast of the USA - not Washington D.C. where our Ambassador expects her bang.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690245">edgar</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, the place involved is in Washington state &#8211; on the North West coast of the USA &#8211; not Washington D.C. where our Ambassador expects her bang.</p>
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		By: QahbuMalti		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can already hear Konrad Mizzi at the press conference after, God forbid, an accident here &quot;Nixtieq nirringrazzja it-tobba, li huma fenomenali, in-nurses li huma fenomenali, il-haddiema tas-Civil Protection li huma fenomenali, il-paramedics li kien fenomenali, id-drivers tal-ambulanzi lie kienu fenomenali u fl-ahhar il-prim ministru li nizel Delimara mieghi hu wera kemm hu vera bneidem fenomenali. Yes, MirYUM, that&#039;s a good question - it only happens once every 10,000 years and we have been phenomenally unlucky but we can assure the families of all those who died that we are doing everything to understand what happened and to make sure this never happens again.&quot;

It is so Godawful to contemplate the catastrophe that will ensue. The sheriff said two-miles blast radius in that video there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can already hear Konrad Mizzi at the press conference after, God forbid, an accident here &#8220;Nixtieq nirringrazzja it-tobba, li huma fenomenali, in-nurses li huma fenomenali, il-haddiema tas-Civil Protection li huma fenomenali, il-paramedics li kien fenomenali, id-drivers tal-ambulanzi lie kienu fenomenali u fl-ahhar il-prim ministru li nizel Delimara mieghi hu wera kemm hu vera bneidem fenomenali. Yes, MirYUM, that&#8217;s a good question &#8211; it only happens once every 10,000 years and we have been phenomenally unlucky but we can assure the families of all those who died that we are doing everything to understand what happened and to make sure this never happens again.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is so Godawful to contemplate the catastrophe that will ensue. The sheriff said two-miles blast radius in that video there.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690309&quot;&gt;Salvu&lt;/a&gt;.

But this is it, a gas leak and the subsequent potential of an explosion requires immediate evacuation, safety procedures define non-intervention, &#039;letting the incident follow its course&#039; as the only safe route to follow. 

There&#039;s nothing one can do, except get everyone in the 2 mile radius out, (that figure derives from matching the  density of the gas cloud within its ignition range) and wait for the gas to disperse. 

Basically wait for the tank in question to empty. It could take days, and the power plant would have to be shut down all the same. (If that&#039;s not an ignition source).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690309">Salvu</a>.</p>
<p>But this is it, a gas leak and the subsequent potential of an explosion requires immediate evacuation, safety procedures define non-intervention, &#8216;letting the incident follow its course&#8217; as the only safe route to follow. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing one can do, except get everyone in the 2 mile radius out, (that figure derives from matching the  density of the gas cloud within its ignition range) and wait for the gas to disperse. </p>
<p>Basically wait for the tank in question to empty. It could take days, and the power plant would have to be shut down all the same. (If that&#8217;s not an ignition source).</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690215&quot;&gt;Anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

Now&#039;s the time to start importing blankets, tents, Ovaltine....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/03/and-they-say-the-risk-is-negligible-four-hurt-in-lng-plant-explosion-in-the-us-neighbours-evacuated/#comment-1690215">Anthony</a>.</p>
<p>Now&#8217;s the time to start importing blankets, tents, Ovaltine&#8230;.</p>
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