Comments on: Forget adoption for a minute: what happens with an actual, real live birth? https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/ Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta. Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:06:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Calculator https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1783689 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:06:02 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1783689 In reply to Calculator.

http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2014-04-21/news/abortion-no-at-this-point-in-time-helena-dalli-4696309760/

Here we go, abortion gets a categorical ‘no’, but only ‘at this point in time’. As the above video clearly shows, whatever assurances given that Jo agrees, the sorry excuse for a man simply can neither be believed nor trusted.

]]> By: Calculator https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1782299 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:23:25 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1782299 http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2014-04-20/opinions/comfort-zone-catholics-4684873738/

Whether you agree with his religious views or not, the author of the article is an expert in bioethics and he has a point. It’s only a matter of time before gay couples (especially male) begin to demand eugenics to make up for their deficiencies. Jo, the ever thoughtful and benevolent leader he is, will surely open a Pandora’s box for them – or rather, their vote – and probably move on to euthanasia, abortion (drug legalisation is already on his list).

Remember, he has already moved from “Noted, but no thanks” to not consulting at all. In this case, the Bioethics Committee has not been reconstituted at all, and I don’t see Jo wanting to do so any time soon.

]]> By: Calculator https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1782264 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:06:38 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1782264 In reply to Natalie.

After having to deal with someone at the Marriage Registry, I can confirm that this is basically the case and that Jo has, of course, forgotten to cover this aspect in his botched attempt to repay votes given by gay groups.

He could have perhaps known about this ‘little’ detail had he done the logical thing and consulted someone working in the field before.

]]> By: Hawwadni ha nifmhek https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1769871 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:21:09 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1769871 And I suppose gay couples can get divorced too. Who then keeps the child and who maintains the child? Mother 1, mother 2, father 1 or father 2 ? Are there any restrictions as to what sex of child two men can adopt for instance? Just so confusing…..

]]> By: Me https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1764245 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 18:37:10 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1764245 This government is only interested in fulfilling its pre-election promises, the way it’s done, is not important.

We have already ticked the ‘lower electricity rates’ off the list of promised things and showed it off on billboards all over Malta, with no concern given to the real price tag, as long as it makes the large crowd happy.

]]> By: guzi https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1759848 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:59:38 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1759848 In reply to M..

I think in this you are wrong M. A married couple cannot have their marriage annulled just because they do not have any offspring.

]]> By: How incompetent https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1759681 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:20:14 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1759681 I was unsure about the legality of surrogacy and sperm donorship. Thanks for clarifying. In any case am I correct in thinking that this will now lead to gay couples expecting to be entitled to IVF, or am I overthinking this?

]]> By: How incompetent https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1759616 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:04:18 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1759616 I’m no expert, however now that it is legal for gay couples to adopt doesn’t this also entitle them to an IVF procedure through surrogacy or sperm donorship, which to my knowledge is illegal in Malta?

[Daphne – It’s not illegal.]

]]> By: Ghoxrin Punt https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1759365 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:59:02 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1759365 In reply to Simon.

Without going into the merits of whether two mothers or two fathers can make better parents than one of each, and rest assured they can, these liberal laws never intrinsically benefit the vulnerable party.

Unfortunately whilst in this case a number of children can and will benefit from this law, a number of others will not. This is why the adoption law should have been separated from the civil union law and studied further.

But as usual, this government looks for the instant gratification, hence a botched legislation which will have more loopholes than they will be able to cope with

]]> By: Just Saying https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/forget-adoption-for-a-minute-what-happens-with-an-actual-real-live-birth/#comment-1758180 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:07:02 +0000 http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/?p=46034#comment-1758180 Plus one would assume that the biological mother was impregnated at a fertility clinic where the biological father (read: sperm donor) would have had to sign away his rights in order to donate his sperm in the first place. That would be standard practice one would assume.

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