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		By: Matt		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1835692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1796891&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

Not that I want to keep going on and on about it here, but how can you justify the fact that you simply think its wrong when actual family research centres and physiological organisations have done numerous studies and concluded that there is nothing wrong with it. How can someone say they simply know more about family then a collective group of family psychologists? Than gender psychiatrists? 

More than all of these:

The Cambridge University’s Centre for Family Research 

The American Academy of Pediatrics - the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry - the American Psychiatric Association - the American Psychological Association - The American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy - The American Psychoanalytic Association - The National Association of Social Workers - The Child Welfare League of America - The North American Council on Adoptable Children 

The University of Amsterdam

The Canadian Psychological Association.

The Australian Institute of Family Studies.

Practically every major family research centre in the world.

You can&#039;t expect everyone to accept, &#039;well some of us just feel like its wrong so it must be&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1796891">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>Not that I want to keep going on and on about it here, but how can you justify the fact that you simply think its wrong when actual family research centres and physiological organisations have done numerous studies and concluded that there is nothing wrong with it. How can someone say they simply know more about family then a collective group of family psychologists? Than gender psychiatrists? </p>
<p>More than all of these:</p>
<p>The Cambridge University’s Centre for Family Research </p>
<p>The American Academy of Pediatrics &#8211; the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry &#8211; the American Psychiatric Association &#8211; the American Psychological Association &#8211; The American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy &#8211; The American Psychoanalytic Association &#8211; The National Association of Social Workers &#8211; The Child Welfare League of America &#8211; The North American Council on Adoptable Children </p>
<p>The University of Amsterdam</p>
<p>The Canadian Psychological Association.</p>
<p>The Australian Institute of Family Studies.</p>
<p>Practically every major family research centre in the world.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t expect everyone to accept, &#8216;well some of us just feel like its wrong so it must be&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1777732&quot;&gt;Photog&lt;/a&gt;.

And what exactly do you think a gay couple would be doing at their own wedding? Standing on their head? Running around naked? Ridiculous.]]></description>
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<p>And what exactly do you think a gay couple would be doing at their own wedding? Standing on their head? Running around naked? Ridiculous.</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1778292&quot;&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;is best tested by asking those who grew up either without a mother or with a seriously deficient one&quot; 

There is a massive difference between only having a mother or father, and having two of the same sex. You don&#039;t feel the loss of a mother if you have two loving stable parents, you only feel the loss of a mother if you only have one parent; a father and vice-versa.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - No, you are quite wrong. You feel the absence of a father if you don&#039;t have one, and you feel the absence of a mother if you don&#039;t have one. Parents are not interchangeable. Each has a different role and function according to gender, and by role and function I don&#039;t mean the laundry, paying the bills and cooking. Two fathers or two mothers are quite patently not the same thing as a father and a mother, which is - whatever you or any apologist says - the ideal, provided that they are both decent.]&lt;/strong&gt;

I can&#039;t even understand why this has become such a huge debate, there have been plenty of studies on both gay and lesbian parents done by universities and psychological organisations all over the world. 

How can someone think they know more about what it feels like to grow up with gay parents than research centers (like the Cambridge University’s Centre for Family Research), family psychologists, gay parents and even the adult children themselves of gay parents, all of whom say it&#039;s perfectly fine.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Of course they say it is &#039;Perfectly fine&#039;. What else do you expect them to say: &#039;I hated the fact that I was brought up by two women and wish I had a father like everyone else?&#039; I know several people whose mothers ran off - not just left home and children, but left Malta altogether - and those children, now adults, say it was perfectly fine to be raised by their father single-handedly. I know somebody whose father was mentally ill most of his adult life, and barely worked, but whose children say they were &#039;perfectly fine&#039; with that. It is only when the conversation goes deeper, with persons of trust, that the real feelings emerge. In the absence of real violence, abuse or horror, we are all terrifically loyal to those who bring us up, however inadequate they may have been. This is not to say that we would not have been better off in different circumstances.] &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1778292">Matt</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;is best tested by asking those who grew up either without a mother or with a seriously deficient one&#8221; </p>
<p>There is a massive difference between only having a mother or father, and having two of the same sex. You don&#8217;t feel the loss of a mother if you have two loving stable parents, you only feel the loss of a mother if you only have one parent; a father and vice-versa.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; No, you are quite wrong. You feel the absence of a father if you don&#8217;t have one, and you feel the absence of a mother if you don&#8217;t have one. Parents are not interchangeable. Each has a different role and function according to gender, and by role and function I don&#8217;t mean the laundry, paying the bills and cooking. Two fathers or two mothers are quite patently not the same thing as a father and a mother, which is &#8211; whatever you or any apologist says &#8211; the ideal, provided that they are both decent.]</strong></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even understand why this has become such a huge debate, there have been plenty of studies on both gay and lesbian parents done by universities and psychological organisations all over the world. </p>
<p>How can someone think they know more about what it feels like to grow up with gay parents than research centers (like the Cambridge University’s Centre for Family Research), family psychologists, gay parents and even the adult children themselves of gay parents, all of whom say it&#8217;s perfectly fine.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Of course they say it is &#8216;Perfectly fine&#8217;. What else do you expect them to say: &#8216;I hated the fact that I was brought up by two women and wish I had a father like everyone else?&#8217; I know several people whose mothers ran off &#8211; not just left home and children, but left Malta altogether &#8211; and those children, now adults, say it was perfectly fine to be raised by their father single-handedly. I know somebody whose father was mentally ill most of his adult life, and barely worked, but whose children say they were &#8216;perfectly fine&#8217; with that. It is only when the conversation goes deeper, with persons of trust, that the real feelings emerge. In the absence of real violence, abuse or horror, we are all terrifically loyal to those who bring us up, however inadequate they may have been. This is not to say that we would not have been better off in different circumstances.] </strong></p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1785537&quot;&gt;Tarzan&lt;/a&gt;.

Men as a general rule have no urge to have children? Where did you get that from? I know plenty of couples in which the man wants children and is the main driving force behind the decision to have them.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oh yes, of course you do.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Men as a general rule have no urge to have children? Where did you get that from? I know plenty of couples in which the man wants children and is the main driving force behind the decision to have them.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oh yes, of course you do.]</strong></p>
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		By: Superman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Superman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1777345&quot;&gt;Tabatha White&lt;/a&gt;.

And there&#039;s intersex too besides transexuals...]]></description>
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<p>And there&#8217;s intersex too besides transexuals&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tom Double Thumb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Double Thumb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1785399&quot;&gt;Sean Mayl&lt;/a&gt;.

Could this be Joseph&#039;s and Labour&#039;s way of fulfilling their pre-election promise to have Child-Care centres in every town and village?

That could work out by having gay couples adopting children who are then left at the child-care centre for the day.]]></description>
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<p>Could this be Joseph&#8217;s and Labour&#8217;s way of fulfilling their pre-election promise to have Child-Care centres in every town and village?</p>
<p>That could work out by having gay couples adopting children who are then left at the child-care centre for the day.</p>
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		By: Tarzan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tarzan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1774795&quot;&gt;AE&lt;/a&gt;.

Daphne; by definition men cannot have maternal instinct, but we do love and protect and adore our children. We have the next best, (if not equal), paternal instinct. The happiest memories of my life are all directly connected to my children.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That&#039;s entirely social and not instinctive, and it happens AFTER your children are born and because you are given to understand that the children are yours, which they would be generally, except that you have to take it on trust. Men as a general rule have no urge to have children. They just love them when they arrive. And they will love any child that is presented to them as theirs, with catastrophic consequences when and if they find out that it is not theirs at all.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Daphne; by definition men cannot have maternal instinct, but we do love and protect and adore our children. We have the next best, (if not equal), paternal instinct. The happiest memories of my life are all directly connected to my children.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That&#8217;s entirely social and not instinctive, and it happens AFTER your children are born and because you are given to understand that the children are yours, which they would be generally, except that you have to take it on trust. Men as a general rule have no urge to have children. They just love them when they arrive. And they will love any child that is presented to them as theirs, with catastrophic consequences when and if they find out that it is not theirs at all.]</strong></p>
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		By: Sean Mayl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Mayl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1773337&quot;&gt;Hawk&lt;/a&gt;.

Wouldn&#039;t those two can men or single men also have mothers, who can act so lovingly to the children as you do? Plus studies have shown that children do not need to be exposed to both genders when being brought up.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Children most definitely need to be &#039;exposed&#039; to both genders when growing up. They need both male and female role models. In situations where the mother has died or gone away, for example, or where a single woman has adopted or has been abandoned by/left the father, a substitute role model must be found: an aunt, uncle, older &#039;brother&#039;, and so on. Boys raised without a woman around have one set of problems; boys raised with a man around have another set of problems. Girls tend to be more adaptable, psychologically and emotionally, but those raised without a father are going to have problems forming healthy relationships with men. There is a biological and developmental reason why children need parents/role models of both genders.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1773337">Hawk</a>.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t those two can men or single men also have mothers, who can act so lovingly to the children as you do? Plus studies have shown that children do not need to be exposed to both genders when being brought up.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Children most definitely need to be &#8216;exposed&#8217; to both genders when growing up. They need both male and female role models. In situations where the mother has died or gone away, for example, or where a single woman has adopted or has been abandoned by/left the father, a substitute role model must be found: an aunt, uncle, older &#8216;brother&#8217;, and so on. Boys raised without a woman around have one set of problems; boys raised with a man around have another set of problems. Girls tend to be more adaptable, psychologically and emotionally, but those raised without a father are going to have problems forming healthy relationships with men. There is a biological and developmental reason why children need parents/role models of both genders.]</strong></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evarist Saliba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With Joseph Muscat at the helm one should stop asking what men and women can, should or may do.

Anything goes, and Joseph Muscat will always find so-called liberals who will support him]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Joseph Muscat at the helm one should stop asking what men and women can, should or may do.</p>
<p>Anything goes, and Joseph Muscat will always find so-called liberals who will support him</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/04/men-cannot-adopt-girls/#comment-1774497&quot;&gt;giraffa&lt;/a&gt;.

Our journalists lack all instruments to argument. Those who do become the unmentionable.]]></description>
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<p>Our journalists lack all instruments to argument. Those who do become the unmentionable.</p>
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