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	Comments on: Cyrus Engerer didn&#8217;t &#8220;ditch the party&#8221;. He was asked to leave when they found out about the police proceedings against him.	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Natalie Mallett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie Mallett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 13:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that whatever the PL pick from the PN skip starts to stink sooner or later. 

Does Joseph Muscat not realize that if there was any hope that these people had any decency in them, Lawrence Gonzi would not have removed them in the first place? 

Such a shame really, when you think of the poor talent the Labour Party is made up of. 

If money did not exist they would have absolutely nothing to boast about. As things stand they can only brace themselves with the way they are lining their pockets with other people&#039;s money. Thieves and misers the lot of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that whatever the PL pick from the PN skip starts to stink sooner or later. </p>
<p>Does Joseph Muscat not realize that if there was any hope that these people had any decency in them, Lawrence Gonzi would not have removed them in the first place? </p>
<p>Such a shame really, when you think of the poor talent the Labour Party is made up of. </p>
<p>If money did not exist they would have absolutely nothing to boast about. As things stand they can only brace themselves with the way they are lining their pockets with other people&#8217;s money. Thieves and misers the lot of them.</p>
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		By: rowena smith		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1896503</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rowena smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 11:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will Cyrus Engerer face Public Service Commission proceedings since he is a civil servant?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Engerer is on the state payroll but not a civil servant.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Cyrus Engerer face Public Service Commission proceedings since he is a civil servant?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Engerer is on the state payroll but not a civil servant.]</strong></p>
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		By: P Bonnici		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Bonnici]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 10:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1894178&quot;&gt;ken il malti&lt;/a&gt;.

He is in the right political party now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1894178">ken il malti</a>.</p>
<p>He is in the right political party now.</p>
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		By: Volley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Volley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 10:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I remember correctly, Lawrence Gonzi once said that Joseph Muscat will one day regret taking Franco Debono et al into his party&#039;s fold. Well, I think he was a &#039;prophet&#039; then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, Lawrence Gonzi once said that Joseph Muscat will one day regret taking Franco Debono et al into his party&#8217;s fold. Well, I think he was a &#8216;prophet&#8217; then.</p>
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		By: pablo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pablo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 10:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am voting for Cyrus. He best represents what Labour represents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am voting for Cyrus. He best represents what Labour represents.</p>
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		By: Xejn sew		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1895949</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xejn sew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 09:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In his statement Cyrus Engerer said he is assuming responsibility as a proper politician should.  In the very next breath he stated that the judgement is unfair and what he went through - as opposed to what he put his ex-boyfriend through - is down to the PN&#039;s political vindictiveness. Assuming responsibility, indeed.

Here are some excerpts from the Court of Criminal Appeal judgement that put Mr Engerer&#039;s sanctimonious bullcrap in the right perspective.  Ladies and gentleman, this is Cyrus Engerer:

&quot;Illi nteressanti wkoll jigi nnutat Ii l-istess vittma jirreferi wkoll għal incident meta’ wara li bdew il-proceduri kontra’ tiegħu, l-appellat kien qal lill-vittma li kien fl-intererss tiegħu li l-affarijiet ma jikbrux u dan peress li fin-nuqqas id-difiza jkollha ‘tipprogetta, turi…l-affarijiet fil-Qorti li jiena (l-vittma) iddispjacini jekk jidru.’&quot;

&quot;Meta l-appellat gie mitkellem mill-pulizija rrifjuta li jwiegeb ghad-domandi li sarulu koncernanti l-allegazzjonijiet migjuba fil-konfront tieghu però, ikkonferma illi kellu relazzjoni mal-kwerelant fejn kien jghix mieghu fl-indirizz tal-Furjana, liema relazzjoni intemmet fil-Milied tas-sena elfejn u disgha (2009) u cioé ftit granet qabel inholoq l-email fuq imsemmi.&quot;

&quot;Fl-ahhar il-Qorti ma tistax tinjora t-theddida (xhieda Marvic Camilleri, fol 103) illi lappellat ghamel lill-kwerelant biex ma jkomplix ghaddej b’din il-kawza ghax jistghu johorgu certi affarijiet illi jkunu ta’ aktar misthija ghall-istess kwerelant. Din ittheddida giet imsarrfa proprju fl-ahhar tal-gbir tal-provi meta fis-seduta tas-sitta u ghoxrin (26) ta’ Ottubru tal-elfejn u tnax (2012) (fol 188) id-difiza esebiet “pen drive” li allegatament kien fih filmat illi juri... “materjal li gie elevat mill-intimat...” bir-ragun, il-prosekuzzjoni oggezzjonat ghal din il-prezentata izda l-Qorti ma tat lebda direttiva u l-envelope kontenti l-“pen drive” baqa’ fil-process. Dana juri f’liema livell waqa’ l-appellat sabiex joskura lill-kwerelant, igieghlu jirtira l-kwerela u jahbi r-responsabiltà tieghu ghal dan ir-reat. Fortunatament l-appellat ma rnexxilux f’dan l-ghan qarrieqi.&quot;

One final observation.  Guess who was Cyrus Engerer&#039;s defence lawyer who connived with the accused to twist the victim&#039;s arm to drop the complaint by exhibiting more embarrassing material in Court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his statement Cyrus Engerer said he is assuming responsibility as a proper politician should.  In the very next breath he stated that the judgement is unfair and what he went through &#8211; as opposed to what he put his ex-boyfriend through &#8211; is down to the PN&#8217;s political vindictiveness. Assuming responsibility, indeed.</p>
<p>Here are some excerpts from the Court of Criminal Appeal judgement that put Mr Engerer&#8217;s sanctimonious bullcrap in the right perspective.  Ladies and gentleman, this is Cyrus Engerer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Illi nteressanti wkoll jigi nnutat Ii l-istess vittma jirreferi wkoll għal incident meta’ wara li bdew il-proceduri kontra’ tiegħu, l-appellat kien qal lill-vittma li kien fl-intererss tiegħu li l-affarijiet ma jikbrux u dan peress li fin-nuqqas id-difiza jkollha ‘tipprogetta, turi…l-affarijiet fil-Qorti li jiena (l-vittma) iddispjacini jekk jidru.’&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Meta l-appellat gie mitkellem mill-pulizija rrifjuta li jwiegeb ghad-domandi li sarulu koncernanti l-allegazzjonijiet migjuba fil-konfront tieghu però, ikkonferma illi kellu relazzjoni mal-kwerelant fejn kien jghix mieghu fl-indirizz tal-Furjana, liema relazzjoni intemmet fil-Milied tas-sena elfejn u disgha (2009) u cioé ftit granet qabel inholoq l-email fuq imsemmi.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Fl-ahhar il-Qorti ma tistax tinjora t-theddida (xhieda Marvic Camilleri, fol 103) illi lappellat ghamel lill-kwerelant biex ma jkomplix ghaddej b’din il-kawza ghax jistghu johorgu certi affarijiet illi jkunu ta’ aktar misthija ghall-istess kwerelant. Din ittheddida giet imsarrfa proprju fl-ahhar tal-gbir tal-provi meta fis-seduta tas-sitta u ghoxrin (26) ta’ Ottubru tal-elfejn u tnax (2012) (fol 188) id-difiza esebiet “pen drive” li allegatament kien fih filmat illi juri&#8230; “materjal li gie elevat mill-intimat&#8230;” bir-ragun, il-prosekuzzjoni oggezzjonat ghal din il-prezentata izda l-Qorti ma tat lebda direttiva u l-envelope kontenti l-“pen drive” baqa’ fil-process. Dana juri f’liema livell waqa’ l-appellat sabiex joskura lill-kwerelant, igieghlu jirtira l-kwerela u jahbi r-responsabiltà tieghu ghal dan ir-reat. Fortunatament l-appellat ma rnexxilux f’dan l-ghan qarrieqi.&#8221;</p>
<p>One final observation.  Guess who was Cyrus Engerer&#8217;s defence lawyer who connived with the accused to twist the victim&#8217;s arm to drop the complaint by exhibiting more embarrassing material in Court.</p>
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		By: Xejn sew		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1895897</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xejn sew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 09:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is for the PN to issue a statement correcting the Maltatoday bullsh** quoted above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is for the PN to issue a statement correcting the Maltatoday bullsh** quoted above.</p>
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		By: Giraffa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giraffa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joseph&#039;s skip is starting to stink in the heat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph&#8217;s skip is starting to stink in the heat.</p>
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		By: Brimbu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 08:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The court has done its job and this matter is settled.

However, the timing of the judgment and the way Cuschieri stopped attacking Engerer, after a meeting he had, makes me wonder if a plot was in action. This would make Engerer the stone that hits two birds.

But then again, my son accuses me of being paranoid.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Oh please don&#039;t be silly. What you&#039;re saying here is that Judge Mallia takes instruction from the Labour Party or the government. It&#039;s amazing how many people actually think of the Courts of Justice as the long arm of the government. I believe this is due to insufficient education in civics: the institutions and the separation of powers.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court has done its job and this matter is settled.</p>
<p>However, the timing of the judgment and the way Cuschieri stopped attacking Engerer, after a meeting he had, makes me wonder if a plot was in action. This would make Engerer the stone that hits two birds.</p>
<p>But then again, my son accuses me of being paranoid.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Oh please don&#8217;t be silly. What you&#8217;re saying here is that Judge Mallia takes instruction from the Labour Party or the government. It&#8217;s amazing how many people actually think of the Courts of Justice as the long arm of the government. I believe this is due to insufficient education in civics: the institutions and the separation of powers.]</strong></p>
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		By: TinaB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TinaB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1894092&quot;&gt;gorg&lt;/a&gt;.

U pulcinell bil-pedigree akbar, min accettah ghax ried akkost ta&#039; kollox jirbah elezzjoni.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/cyrus-engerer-didnt-ditch-the-party-he-was-asked-to-leave-when-they-found-out-about-the-police-proceedings-against-him/#comment-1894092">gorg</a>.</p>
<p>U pulcinell bil-pedigree akbar, min accettah ghax ried akkost ta&#8217; kollox jirbah elezzjoni.</p>
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