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	Comments on: Here&#8217;s a chart to prove that Konrad Mizzi is lying about percentages in those letters sent out abusively in ARMS envelopes	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: jerry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 00:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne your working percentages are 100% correct. What happened is that who formulated the letter did not know what he is doing and is misleading everyone. The reason is that the water 5% is stable and for everyone. What flows is the electricity and that can go higher or lower depend  consuming. So the final percentage as shown on the letter should be taken for the electricity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne your working percentages are 100% correct. What happened is that who formulated the letter did not know what he is doing and is misleading everyone. The reason is that the water 5% is stable and for everyone. What flows is the electricity and that can go higher or lower depend  consuming. So the final percentage as shown on the letter should be taken for the electricity.</p>
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		By: gorg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gorg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 00:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My father received TWO of these &#039;discount letters&#039;. One stated 33% and the other 28%.

Will he be saving 61% ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father received TWO of these &#8216;discount letters&#8217;. One stated 33% and the other 28%.</p>
<p>Will he be saving 61% ?</p>
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		By: Bluey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bluey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne I guess your workings are incorrect.

You have to deduct the meter charge first for both water &#038; electricity before working out the percentages.

When you do so and work out the 5% decrease on water and 25% on electricity you will find that the actual percentages against your workings are MUCH LESS.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - Those were illustrations of how percentages work when averaged out. So the meter charge is absolutely irrelevant.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne I guess your workings are incorrect.</p>
<p>You have to deduct the meter charge first for both water &amp; electricity before working out the percentages.</p>
<p>When you do so and work out the 5% decrease on water and 25% on electricity you will find that the actual percentages against your workings are MUCH LESS.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; Those were illustrations of how percentages work when averaged out. So the meter charge is absolutely irrelevant.]</strong></p>
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		By: E. Sammut		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Sammut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your maths is right however I thought Konnie promised an average of 25%. This means that I can get a discount of 28% on electricity and 3% on water. 

So basically, Konnie tal-Gass is not telling us how much we are saving on electricity and water separately but he combined the figures together. Why? To make it sound more appealing to the masses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your maths is right however I thought Konnie promised an average of 25%. This means that I can get a discount of 28% on electricity and 3% on water. </p>
<p>So basically, Konnie tal-Gass is not telling us how much we are saving on electricity and water separately but he combined the figures together. Why? To make it sound more appealing to the masses.</p>
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		By: kram		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 16:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used the calculator provided on the website energy.gov.mt and got a 15% reduction instead of the 24% reduction Konrad promised in the letter he sent me.
  
But I expected this even the first time that they had announced it since the reduction was going to be on the units used and not on the total bill, therefore no reduction for the service charges, and apart from that they had said that the reduction will be according the amounts used but the PL did not put an emphasis on this and emphasised that there will be a 25% reduction in electricity and 5% in the water bill.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the calculator provided on the website energy.gov.mt and got a 15% reduction instead of the 24% reduction Konrad promised in the letter he sent me.</p>
<p>But I expected this even the first time that they had announced it since the reduction was going to be on the units used and not on the total bill, therefore no reduction for the service charges, and apart from that they had said that the reduction will be according the amounts used but the PL did not put an emphasis on this and emphasised that there will be a 25% reduction in electricity and 5% in the water bill.  </p>
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		By: JohnM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 16:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Under the last government, my water and electricity bill showed a 25% eco-reduction (discount) on a regular basis.  

Why are we being treated like a bunch of fools and the PN does not expose these type of gimmicks?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under the last government, my water and electricity bill showed a 25% eco-reduction (discount) on a regular basis.  </p>
<p>Why are we being treated like a bunch of fools and the PN does not expose these type of gimmicks?</p>
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		By: George		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/heres-a-chart-to-prove-that-konrad-mizzi-is-lying-in-all-those-letters-sent-out-abusively-in-arms-envelopes/#comment-1890291&quot;&gt;maybe he doe´sn´t lie (on this)&lt;/a&gt;.

For example a residential consumer staying within the consumption limit of 2MWh will pay 0,1365 Euro/kWh instead of 0,21 Euro/kWh.
It means a discount of 35%.

Please note that within th elimit of 2MWh the consumer never paid at the rate of 21c per unit but at 16c per unit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/heres-a-chart-to-prove-that-konrad-mizzi-is-lying-in-all-those-letters-sent-out-abusively-in-arms-envelopes/#comment-1890291">maybe he doe´sn´t lie (on this)</a>.</p>
<p>For example a residential consumer staying within the consumption limit of 2MWh will pay 0,1365 Euro/kWh instead of 0,21 Euro/kWh.<br />
It means a discount of 35%.</p>
<p>Please note that within th elimit of 2MWh the consumer never paid at the rate of 21c per unit but at 16c per unit</p>
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		By: Vince		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have worked my last bill which I received on the 30th April. Yesterday I was informed that my discount would be of 31%. 

What they did not say, and all of you have missed is the fact that the 31% or whatever discount is being mentioned include the ECO discount. 

So in reality the discount being given is the difference between the variable eco reduction and the presumed discount that we will see on the bill. My real net discount worked on real cosumption and the advertised net rates published work out at 9.97% on electricity and if you include the metre charge, which has not been changed as yet, this discount works out at 8.6%.

I worked also my water bill and the saving is 2.73% on consumption and if I factor in the meter charge for the period this discount goes down to 2%.

My total bill worked on the new rates show a total overall discount of 8.45%. If I remove the meter charges the consumption discount is 10.23%. This reflects a daily discount of just 17 cents (or the old 7 cents) per day. 

Simple maths show that if the pre 31st March 2014 cost per unit was 16.1 cents per unit, the discounted price at 25% was 12.08cents per unit.

If you were to just get this figure and give a discount of a further 25% the price would work out at 9.06 cents, which price is even less than the price that Electrogas will be charging per unit of 9.67 cents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked my last bill which I received on the 30th April. Yesterday I was informed that my discount would be of 31%. </p>
<p>What they did not say, and all of you have missed is the fact that the 31% or whatever discount is being mentioned include the ECO discount. </p>
<p>So in reality the discount being given is the difference between the variable eco reduction and the presumed discount that we will see on the bill. My real net discount worked on real cosumption and the advertised net rates published work out at 9.97% on electricity and if you include the metre charge, which has not been changed as yet, this discount works out at 8.6%.</p>
<p>I worked also my water bill and the saving is 2.73% on consumption and if I factor in the meter charge for the period this discount goes down to 2%.</p>
<p>My total bill worked on the new rates show a total overall discount of 8.45%. If I remove the meter charges the consumption discount is 10.23%. This reflects a daily discount of just 17 cents (or the old 7 cents) per day. </p>
<p>Simple maths show that if the pre 31st March 2014 cost per unit was 16.1 cents per unit, the discounted price at 25% was 12.08cents per unit.</p>
<p>If you were to just get this figure and give a discount of a further 25% the price would work out at 9.06 cents, which price is even less than the price that Electrogas will be charging per unit of 9.67 cents.</p>
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		By: Malcolm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malcolm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 15:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/heres-a-chart-to-prove-that-konrad-mizzi-is-lying-in-all-those-letters-sent-out-abusively-in-arms-envelopes/#comment-1890342&quot;&gt;FP&lt;/a&gt;.

What FP said, together with what chris and Mark Thorogood said. I believe that this time it is your calculations that are wrong Daphne.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/heres-a-chart-to-prove-that-konrad-mizzi-is-lying-in-all-those-letters-sent-out-abusively-in-arms-envelopes/#comment-1890342">FP</a>.</p>
<p>What FP said, together with what chris and Mark Thorogood said. I believe that this time it is your calculations that are wrong Daphne.</p>
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		By: scott brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scott brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The percentage reduction will be even less. 5% and 25% reduction is on the unit price. There will be no reduction on the meters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The percentage reduction will be even less. 5% and 25% reduction is on the unit price. There will be no reduction on the meters.</p>
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