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	Comments on: The persecution of Chris Engerer, father to Cyrus: the facts, for those who still believe that facts are important	</title>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 11:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1921590&quot;&gt;tinnat&lt;/a&gt;.

I would differentiate between nerd and rebel hamallu.

Nerds play by the rules.  They learn the rules, play the game by the rules and any game they play will be played well.

The rebel hamallu doesn&#039;t play any game by the rules because he&#039;s not really interested in playing the game but in cheating the game.

They will never play the game well: any game.

As Joseph Muscat explained at St. Aloysius - he thought it was clever: When he forgot his &quot;undervest&quot; (Rule 1), he went to his friend&#039;s house and saved himself the journey back home, plus the cost of it.

The truth is: he wasted both time, effort and lesson input by &quot;not playing the game by the rules.&quot;

It was true then, and it&#039;s just as true now.

Give me a nerd who plays by the rules any time. Rebels end up chasing their tails and not playing any game well.

Nerds and geeks are actually an aspiration within that context. It&#039;s the full knowledge of the rules that take them forward. 

It&#039;s the precision that they can apply in the preparation they know they need to have which supplies the advantage over the rebel: whether hamallu or cool. 

&quot;Why not&quot; does add spice, but that&#039;s not how one runs a country where people&#039;s lives are dependent on responsible choices of Government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1921590">tinnat</a>.</p>
<p>I would differentiate between nerd and rebel hamallu.</p>
<p>Nerds play by the rules.  They learn the rules, play the game by the rules and any game they play will be played well.</p>
<p>The rebel hamallu doesn&#8217;t play any game by the rules because he&#8217;s not really interested in playing the game but in cheating the game.</p>
<p>They will never play the game well: any game.</p>
<p>As Joseph Muscat explained at St. Aloysius &#8211; he thought it was clever: When he forgot his &#8220;undervest&#8221; (Rule 1), he went to his friend&#8217;s house and saved himself the journey back home, plus the cost of it.</p>
<p>The truth is: he wasted both time, effort and lesson input by &#8220;not playing the game by the rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was true then, and it&#8217;s just as true now.</p>
<p>Give me a nerd who plays by the rules any time. Rebels end up chasing their tails and not playing any game well.</p>
<p>Nerds and geeks are actually an aspiration within that context. It&#8217;s the full knowledge of the rules that take them forward. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the precision that they can apply in the preparation they know they need to have which supplies the advantage over the rebel: whether hamallu or cool. </p>
<p>&#8220;Why not&#8221; does add spice, but that&#8217;s not how one runs a country where people&#8217;s lives are dependent on responsible choices of Government.</p>
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		By: tinnat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tinnat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 08:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joseph Muscat&#039;s behaviour is typical &quot;nerd grown up and in power&quot; behaviour:  let&#039;s please all the &quot;cool&quot; people (the gays, marijuana users, Lou Bondi...) so perhaps I can look cool by association and be accepted by society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph Muscat&#8217;s behaviour is typical &#8220;nerd grown up and in power&#8221; behaviour:  let&#8217;s please all the &#8220;cool&#8221; people (the gays, marijuana users, Lou Bondi&#8230;) so perhaps I can look cool by association and be accepted by society.</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 07:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1916797&quot;&gt;Chris Ripard&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Neo

&quot;Labour had been infiltrating government entities for five years. Slowly but surely.&quot;

Agree with you there.  Not only Government entities, but others too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1916797">Chris Ripard</a>.</p>
<p>@ Neo</p>
<p>&#8220;Labour had been infiltrating government entities for five years. Slowly but surely.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agree with you there.  Not only Government entities, but others too.</p>
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		By: hmm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hmm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 23:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1916632&quot;&gt;Johannes&lt;/a&gt;.

Not all civil servants, certain people have been recruited having a criminal record. PQ please!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/the-persecution-of-chris-engerer-father-to-cyrus-the-facts-for-those-who-still-believe-that-facts-are-important/#comment-1916632">Johannes</a>.</p>
<p>Not all civil servants, certain people have been recruited having a criminal record. PQ please!</p>
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		By: Jcim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You forgot to mention that Harrison now works in the same building minister fat Harry works. He is his assistant on visa issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention that Harrison now works in the same building minister fat Harry works. He is his assistant on visa issues.</p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob-a-job]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cannabis/Cheech and Chong-the reefer song 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi6eRD8vyQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannabis/Cheech and Chong-the reefer song </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi6eRD8vyQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi6eRD8vyQ</a></p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 20:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh by the way.

Chris Engerer&#039;s place is called &#039;Paradise Bar&#039;, you know like &#039;stairway to heaven&#039; stuff - how very appropriate.

Now guess who &#039;Puff&#039; the Magic Dragon is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way.</p>
<p>Chris Engerer&#8217;s place is called &#8216;Paradise Bar&#8217;, you know like &#8216;stairway to heaven&#8217; stuff &#8211; how very appropriate.</p>
<p>Now guess who &#8216;Puff&#8217; the Magic Dragon is.</p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[U il-kbir ghadu gej!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U il-kbir ghadu gej!</p>
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		By: ex-Private Secretariat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ex-Private Secretariat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 19:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also must add that the previous government also required that the overall majority of staff in Private Secretariats were public officers. 

A few other posts were made available to employees of public sector organisations. However,  part from the drivers who could be sourced from outside the Public Service or the public sector, only three officers could be appointed from outside the Government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also must add that the previous government also required that the overall majority of staff in Private Secretariats were public officers. </p>
<p>A few other posts were made available to employees of public sector organisations. However,  part from the drivers who could be sourced from outside the Public Service or the public sector, only three officers could be appointed from outside the Government.</p>
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		By: ex-Private Secretariat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ex-Private Secretariat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 19:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Under a Nationalist government each and every person  proposed by a Minister or Parliamentary Secretary (from Chief of Staff  to messengers and drivers) for engagement to his or her Private Secretariat had to undergo a security check with the Police Force before the appointment was approved by the Prime Minister. 

I recall a good few cases where this check revealed convictions,  which meant that the appointment was immediately dismissed. 

Anything drug-related, for example, meant that the proposed engagement stopped before it even started. 

In cases where an act was committed several years before, was a first offence, did not involve a jail sentence (suspended or otherwise) and by its nature did not demonstrate a predisposition to deceit or criminal intent, then such individuals were assessed on a case by case basis.  

I am referring here to situations similar to that of Claudio Grech given that a ridiculous attempt was made to equate his case with that of Mr Engerer. 

All in all, under the previous government there was an awareness that we were dealing here with &#039;positions of trust&#039;, and that therefore the integrity and reliability of persons appointed to these positions had to be assured. This lot are making an absolute mockery of this principle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under a Nationalist government each and every person  proposed by a Minister or Parliamentary Secretary (from Chief of Staff  to messengers and drivers) for engagement to his or her Private Secretariat had to undergo a security check with the Police Force before the appointment was approved by the Prime Minister. </p>
<p>I recall a good few cases where this check revealed convictions,  which meant that the appointment was immediately dismissed. </p>
<p>Anything drug-related, for example, meant that the proposed engagement stopped before it even started. </p>
<p>In cases where an act was committed several years before, was a first offence, did not involve a jail sentence (suspended or otherwise) and by its nature did not demonstrate a predisposition to deceit or criminal intent, then such individuals were assessed on a case by case basis.  </p>
<p>I am referring here to situations similar to that of Claudio Grech given that a ridiculous attempt was made to equate his case with that of Mr Engerer. </p>
<p>All in all, under the previous government there was an awareness that we were dealing here with &#8216;positions of trust&#8217;, and that therefore the integrity and reliability of persons appointed to these positions had to be assured. This lot are making an absolute mockery of this principle.</p>
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