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		By: Freedom5		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freedom5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was an agreement between the Chinese Communist Party and the Maltese Labour Party . Perfectly legitimate .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was an agreement between the Chinese Communist Party and the Maltese Labour Party . Perfectly legitimate .</p>
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		By: La Redoute		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La Redoute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 10:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925752&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;That agreement doesn&#039;t hold.&quot;

No, not officially or legally, perhaps, but circumstantially - much in the same way that a party financier can call in favours. 

The flipside of calling in favours is carrying out a threat. China has a hold over Muscat. The legality of his MOU doesn&#039;t change that essential fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925752">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;That agreement doesn&#8217;t hold.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, not officially or legally, perhaps, but circumstantially &#8211; much in the same way that a party financier can call in favours. </p>
<p>The flipside of calling in favours is carrying out a threat. China has a hold over Muscat. The legality of his MOU doesn&#8217;t change that essential fact.</p>
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		By: Denis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 09:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925432&quot;&gt;Joe Fenech&lt;/a&gt;.

Hence Malta an extention of Africa, just as things were under Mintoff smooching up to Gaddafi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925432">Joe Fenech</a>.</p>
<p>Hence Malta an extention of Africa, just as things were under Mintoff smooching up to Gaddafi.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925788&quot;&gt;Bugi_30&lt;/a&gt;.

Then let me make a comment which will cause you to hate me.

Who kept Malta in a state of systemic indebtedness to China? The Nationalist administration. Even after we joined the EU, Malta was still getting annual &quot;gifts&quot; (as they call them in their ever so Oriental fashion) from China under its Aid to Developing Countries. 

Yes, that&#039;s right. Developing countries. 

If I had been Prime Minister, at some point after 1987 I&#039;d have said thanks, but no thanks. 

But I suppose the temptation of ghotjiet mill-barrani was too strong, even for Nationalist prime ministers. 

My point? That this shaped the Maltese public to be naturally grateful to China and to view it positively, instead of being cautious and diffident. Or outright hostile, like Baxxer. But then I never was one for PC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925788">Bugi_30</a>.</p>
<p>Then let me make a comment which will cause you to hate me.</p>
<p>Who kept Malta in a state of systemic indebtedness to China? The Nationalist administration. Even after we joined the EU, Malta was still getting annual &#8220;gifts&#8221; (as they call them in their ever so Oriental fashion) from China under its Aid to Developing Countries. </p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right. Developing countries. </p>
<p>If I had been Prime Minister, at some point after 1987 I&#8217;d have said thanks, but no thanks. </p>
<p>But I suppose the temptation of ghotjiet mill-barrani was too strong, even for Nationalist prime ministers. </p>
<p>My point? That this shaped the Maltese public to be naturally grateful to China and to view it positively, instead of being cautious and diffident. Or outright hostile, like Baxxer. But then I never was one for PC.</p>
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		By: Natalie Mallett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie Mallett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 23:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We will soon be fighting for our independence again. Only this time we will not be getting it from the British but from the Chinese. 

Things are really taking a bad turn and Joseph Muscat needs to come clean and put all the cards on the table so that with the help of the opposition and the EU we do not suffer more than necessary. 

It is so obvious that the Chinese have Joseph Muscat cornered and he is struggling for his life. 

Having said that, I doubt he will ever admit to having made such a big mistake and will drag us all down in the pits with him.

Give us back higher electricity bills, liberty and peace of mind. We were so much better off less than 15 months ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will soon be fighting for our independence again. Only this time we will not be getting it from the British but from the Chinese. </p>
<p>Things are really taking a bad turn and Joseph Muscat needs to come clean and put all the cards on the table so that with the help of the opposition and the EU we do not suffer more than necessary. </p>
<p>It is so obvious that the Chinese have Joseph Muscat cornered and he is struggling for his life. </p>
<p>Having said that, I doubt he will ever admit to having made such a big mistake and will drag us all down in the pits with him.</p>
<p>Give us back higher electricity bills, liberty and peace of mind. We were so much better off less than 15 months ago.</p>
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		By: Philip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 23:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can a party, even if in Government, bind the country with a secret deal for 18 years?  

That&#039;s two generations. 

Surely this is illegal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a party, even if in Government, bind the country with a secret deal for 18 years?  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s two generations. </p>
<p>Surely this is illegal.</p>
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		By: Bugi_30		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bugi_30]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, H. P. Baxxter! This comment is much better than your previous one re Chris Engerer and the PN. 

I&#039;m sure China helped the Labour Party financially in the last general election. 

If not, then why would Muscat and his party have such an obsession with China and the Chinese? 

And why would he go putting Maltese citizenship up for sale? Obviously to help Chinese people gain access to the European Union. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, H. P. Baxxter! This comment is much better than your previous one re Chris Engerer and the PN. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure China helped the Labour Party financially in the last general election. </p>
<p>If not, then why would Muscat and his party have such an obsession with China and the Chinese? </p>
<p>And why would he go putting Maltese citizenship up for sale? Obviously to help Chinese people gain access to the European Union. </p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 22:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925054&quot;&gt;Peter Bloom&lt;/a&gt;.

That agreement doesn&#039;t hold. 

I don&#039;t give a toss if China thinks a party is the state. So their ambassador insists democracy doesn&#039;t work for China. 

Tough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1925054">Peter Bloom</a>.</p>
<p>That agreement doesn&#8217;t hold. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a toss if China thinks a party is the state. So their ambassador insists democracy doesn&#8217;t work for China. </p>
<p>Tough.</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 21:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1924993&quot;&gt;La Redoute&lt;/a&gt;.

With hindsight Muscat&#039;s lie about not ever having met Shiv Nair is even more of a lie.

How can the press ignore this.

Muscat evidently knew of the black-listing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/05/we-should-be-kicking-ourselves-really-and-i-mean-we-in-the-press/#comment-1924993">La Redoute</a>.</p>
<p>With hindsight Muscat&#8217;s lie about not ever having met Shiv Nair is even more of a lie.</p>
<p>How can the press ignore this.</p>
<p>Muscat evidently knew of the black-listing.</p>
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		By: Mou with Mao?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mou with Mao?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daphne, the news of Joseph Muscat&#039;s Memorandum Of Understanding with China was first published in Malta on your website.  That revelation was made on 9 April 2010, while Muscat was still in China (his visit was from 5 to 12 April).

The news had been revealed in the Chinese media on 8 April, but local Labour party media, which had reported Muscat&#039;s visit to China on a daily basis with great prominence, had never mentioned the MOU before then.

See comment under this post here.

http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/andanother-one/

The first reactions to the news here in Malta were expressed here:

http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/bow-and-scrape/

When the Labour Party - those who never read your website - realised that this website had let the cat out of the bag, Joseph Muscat had no option but to mention it in his article, but he made sure to keep it as low profile and seemingly as innocuous as possible.  So eventually he wrote about on 18 April.

My take on this is that had your website not revealed that agreement, we would never have known about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daphne, the news of Joseph Muscat&#8217;s Memorandum Of Understanding with China was first published in Malta on your website.  That revelation was made on 9 April 2010, while Muscat was still in China (his visit was from 5 to 12 April).</p>
<p>The news had been revealed in the Chinese media on 8 April, but local Labour party media, which had reported Muscat&#8217;s visit to China on a daily basis with great prominence, had never mentioned the MOU before then.</p>
<p>See comment under this post here.</p>
<p><a href="http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/andanother-one/" rel="ugc">http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/andanother-one/</a></p>
<p>The first reactions to the news here in Malta were expressed here:</p>
<p><a href="http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/bow-and-scrape/" rel="ugc">http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/04/bow-and-scrape/</a></p>
<p>When the Labour Party &#8211; those who never read your website &#8211; realised that this website had let the cat out of the bag, Joseph Muscat had no option but to mention it in his article, but he made sure to keep it as low profile and seemingly as innocuous as possible.  So eventually he wrote about on 18 April.</p>
<p>My take on this is that had your website not revealed that agreement, we would never have known about it.</p>
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