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		By: Tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The big difference between marijuana and cigarettes is that marijuana is illegal in most parts of the world. The reason there is a black market for cigarettes is that you can buy a pack of malboro for 2 euros in some eastern european countries. Ilegal drugs however, will always be a lot more expensive than legal drugs, especially when it&#039;s a plant that will grow outdoors, and even when you tax it.

I also see a lot of non arguments here, irrelevant suspicions and only citing research when it comes in handy. How are Portugal, the Netherlands and recently the state of Colorado not perfect examples of the positive effects of decriminalization. Almost every expert agrees that looking at the grand scheme of things it is the lesser of two evils, and it&#039;s not close either. 

Colorado has pulled in almost a 100 million dollars so far (since jan 1st of this year) in tax revenues of marijuana. You can ignore this for no reason other than to get your point across, but it blows everything you say here right out the window.

The amount of people that smoke marijuana in the Netherlands is lower than in other countries according to research. Which is funny, because these are unadjusted numbers and you&#039;d think that someone from the Netherlands would be less afraid to admit they&#039;ve used.

At the same time, one of the most oppressive countries towards cannabis in europe, a country that&#039;s behind the rest at least 10 years (malta) in this regard, has the highest rate of heroin abuse... How do these numbers not speak to you? 

The countries that decriminalized ended up with lower crime rates, less violence and less problems with addiction and abuse. These are &quot;studies&quot; that reflect sample sizes of millions of people.

And about the mental health effects, there is no research that suggests that cannabis use in healthy people has negative effects, only short term ones, which is when one is actually under the influence and shortly after. The research that does point towards health effects is not conclusive, only in some interpretations by some media, I&#039;d suggest you read the actual research though.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/05/idUSL5730185

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111116/local/Malta-heroin-shock.394115

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20121207/recreational-marijuana-health-effects

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/colorado-marijuana-revenue_n_5574650.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13624303]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big difference between marijuana and cigarettes is that marijuana is illegal in most parts of the world. The reason there is a black market for cigarettes is that you can buy a pack of malboro for 2 euros in some eastern european countries. Ilegal drugs however, will always be a lot more expensive than legal drugs, especially when it&#8217;s a plant that will grow outdoors, and even when you tax it.</p>
<p>I also see a lot of non arguments here, irrelevant suspicions and only citing research when it comes in handy. How are Portugal, the Netherlands and recently the state of Colorado not perfect examples of the positive effects of decriminalization. Almost every expert agrees that looking at the grand scheme of things it is the lesser of two evils, and it&#8217;s not close either. </p>
<p>Colorado has pulled in almost a 100 million dollars so far (since jan 1st of this year) in tax revenues of marijuana. You can ignore this for no reason other than to get your point across, but it blows everything you say here right out the window.</p>
<p>The amount of people that smoke marijuana in the Netherlands is lower than in other countries according to research. Which is funny, because these are unadjusted numbers and you&#8217;d think that someone from the Netherlands would be less afraid to admit they&#8217;ve used.</p>
<p>At the same time, one of the most oppressive countries towards cannabis in europe, a country that&#8217;s behind the rest at least 10 years (malta) in this regard, has the highest rate of heroin abuse&#8230; How do these numbers not speak to you? </p>
<p>The countries that decriminalized ended up with lower crime rates, less violence and less problems with addiction and abuse. These are &#8220;studies&#8221; that reflect sample sizes of millions of people.</p>
<p>And about the mental health effects, there is no research that suggests that cannabis use in healthy people has negative effects, only short term ones, which is when one is actually under the influence and shortly after. The research that does point towards health effects is not conclusive, only in some interpretations by some media, I&#8217;d suggest you read the actual research though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/05/idUSL5730185" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/05/idUSL5730185</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111116/local/Malta-heroin-shock.394115" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111116/local/Malta-heroin-shock.394115</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20121207/recreational-marijuana-health-effects" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20121207/recreational-marijuana-health-effects</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/colorado-marijuana-revenue_n_5574650.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/colorado-marijuana-revenue_n_5574650.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13624303" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13624303</a></p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210873&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;.

And who shall I turn to when my children fry their brains after constant smoking or turn inevitably turn to heavier drugs? Shall I take you to court for encouraging drug use? 

If you want to smoke weed, take heroin, pop LSD that is your affair. However, when you want to decriminalise drug use for recreational purposes you are infringing on my rights as a parent and as a concerned citizen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210873">Alan</a>.</p>
<p>And who shall I turn to when my children fry their brains after constant smoking or turn inevitably turn to heavier drugs? Shall I take you to court for encouraging drug use? </p>
<p>If you want to smoke weed, take heroin, pop LSD that is your affair. However, when you want to decriminalise drug use for recreational purposes you are infringing on my rights as a parent and as a concerned citizen.</p>
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		By: Not Sandy:P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sandy:P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 06:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210873&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;.

Decriminalising the sale of cannabis doesn&#039;t mean growing the plant will be made legal.

The argument about keeping Maltese money in Malta is the weakest possible sort of defence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210873">Alan</a>.</p>
<p>Decriminalising the sale of cannabis doesn&#8217;t mean growing the plant will be made legal.</p>
<p>The argument about keeping Maltese money in Malta is the weakest possible sort of defence.</p>
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		By: Not Sandy:P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sandy:P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 06:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210877&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt;.

Precisely - which is why legalising its sale will not lead to better regulatory control or reduced use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2210877">Alan</a>.</p>
<p>Precisely &#8211; which is why legalising its sale will not lead to better regulatory control or reduced use.</p>
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		By: Francis Saliba M.D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Saliba M.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not surprising that people with drug rotted brains would be stupid enough to say that the legal supply of any popular commodity would stifle the burgeoning contraband of that commodity.  Experience proves otherwise. That is why customs departments are so ubiquitous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not surprising that people with drug rotted brains would be stupid enough to say that the legal supply of any popular commodity would stifle the burgeoning contraband of that commodity.  Experience proves otherwise. That is why customs departments are so ubiquitous.</p>
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		By: ken il malti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken il malti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2209505&quot;&gt;Tabatha White&lt;/a&gt;.

Contraband cigarettes  were and probably still are coming from Indian reserves in the USA and Canada and you are absolutely right, that these are the same cigarettes from the main and large manufactures.

So it is in the interest of these large tobacco firms to by-pass government customs, duties and taxes so to sell their product and have their product cheap and available to addict new customers, as their customer base dies away and new customers are sought.

A few years ago these tobacco multinationals were fined by many state and provincial governments for their complicity with the  cigarette smugglers, but it was the usual slap on the wrist kind of deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2209505">Tabatha White</a>.</p>
<p>Contraband cigarettes  were and probably still are coming from Indian reserves in the USA and Canada and you are absolutely right, that these are the same cigarettes from the main and large manufactures.</p>
<p>So it is in the interest of these large tobacco firms to by-pass government customs, duties and taxes so to sell their product and have their product cheap and available to addict new customers, as their customer base dies away and new customers are sought.</p>
<p>A few years ago these tobacco multinationals were fined by many state and provincial governments for their complicity with the  cigarette smugglers, but it was the usual slap on the wrist kind of deal.</p>
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		By: Guzeppi tal-mosta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guzeppi tal-mosta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ma ndumux ma naraw xi hanut ibiegh iz-zerriegha tal-medical marijuana jiftah il-belt vicin il-parlament gdid taghna lkoll bhal ma qed jigri Kalifornja.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ma ndumux ma naraw xi hanut ibiegh iz-zerriegha tal-medical marijuana jiftah il-belt vicin il-parlament gdid taghna lkoll bhal ma qed jigri Kalifornja.</p>
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		By: David Raynes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Raynes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Illegal cannabis would still be traded in a legalised market regardless of any or no tax upon it. Age restrictions would be got around and create a target market. Added to that an illegal supplier can always undercut a legal supplier.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal cannabis would still be traded in a legalised market regardless of any or no tax upon it. Age restrictions would be got around and create a target market. Added to that an illegal supplier can always undercut a legal supplier.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 12:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2209368&quot;&gt;Marry wana?&lt;/a&gt;.

As if anyone who smokes weed gives a shit about the separate parts of the law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/and-there-are-naive-fools-who-think-that-legalising-cannabis-will-mean-no-illegal-supply/#comment-2209368">Marry wana?</a>.</p>
<p>As if anyone who smokes weed gives a shit about the separate parts of the law.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can grow a cannabis plant and smoke it(just dry it out and enjoy)but you cant grow tobacco.

Its better to smoke Maltese weed then Sicilian weed.

The Sicilians sell it here and take the money back home.

It would be better to have a plant or two and smoke it at home for personal use.

Thats the difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can grow a cannabis plant and smoke it(just dry it out and enjoy)but you cant grow tobacco.</p>
<p>Its better to smoke Maltese weed then Sicilian weed.</p>
<p>The Sicilians sell it here and take the money back home.</p>
<p>It would be better to have a plant or two and smoke it at home for personal use.</p>
<p>Thats the difference.</p>
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