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	Comments on: Cameron doesn&#8217;t want Juncker to be European Commission president. But would his electorate have been happier with Martin &#8216;Vote for a German&#8217; Schulz?	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: ghalgolhajt.com		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2079898</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073450&quot;&gt;anthony&lt;/a&gt;.

Wrong, she&#039;s backing him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073450">anthony</a>.</p>
<p>Wrong, she&#8217;s backing him.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073707&quot;&gt;Matthew S&lt;/a&gt;.

I vote for Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Thomas de Maizière or Nicolas Sarkozy. Or Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg. That should put some iron in the glove.

Consensus gets us nowhere. Forthrightness does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073707">Matthew S</a>.</p>
<p>I vote for Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Thomas de Maizière or Nicolas Sarkozy. Or Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg. That should put some iron in the glove.</p>
<p>Consensus gets us nowhere. Forthrightness does.</p>
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		By: observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, if the UK voters still have the mind-set of the half-drunk and half-naked Britons shown in the above clip, it is small wonder that they cannot forego their &#039;superior&#039; isolationist attitude with regard to the EU.

One must not forget that, back in the middle 1950&#039;s it was precisely for previously warring Europeans to come together on economic policies - especially those concerning steel and coal - that the foundations of the modern EU were laid.

I was around at the time and still remember the Coal and Steel Pact being publicized as an achievement towards future co-operation - as against hitherto mortal enmity since at least the late 1860&#039;s - between Germany and France.

I presume David Cameron - for whom I have the greatest admiration, incidentally - is very much aware of developments in Europe as a result of the Treaty of Rome and of the historical evolution that the Common Market  brought about.

Is it that the Conservative Party - who, under the leadership of Edward Heath back in 1972 had joined the EU - has forgotten all about the benefits of being part of modern Europe and is pandering to the narrow interests of British industry and banking - and those of the Queen&#039;s subjects rioting wildly on German beer following a soccer game?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the UK voters still have the mind-set of the half-drunk and half-naked Britons shown in the above clip, it is small wonder that they cannot forego their &#8216;superior&#8217; isolationist attitude with regard to the EU.</p>
<p>One must not forget that, back in the middle 1950&#8217;s it was precisely for previously warring Europeans to come together on economic policies &#8211; especially those concerning steel and coal &#8211; that the foundations of the modern EU were laid.</p>
<p>I was around at the time and still remember the Coal and Steel Pact being publicized as an achievement towards future co-operation &#8211; as against hitherto mortal enmity since at least the late 1860&#8217;s &#8211; between Germany and France.</p>
<p>I presume David Cameron &#8211; for whom I have the greatest admiration, incidentally &#8211; is very much aware of developments in Europe as a result of the Treaty of Rome and of the historical evolution that the Common Market  brought about.</p>
<p>Is it that the Conservative Party &#8211; who, under the leadership of Edward Heath back in 1972 had joined the EU &#8211; has forgotten all about the benefits of being part of modern Europe and is pandering to the narrow interests of British industry and banking &#8211; and those of the Queen&#8217;s subjects rioting wildly on German beer following a soccer game?</p>
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		By: Wilson		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2077071</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073570&quot;&gt;J Abela&lt;/a&gt;.

Europe moved on, but history tends to repeat itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073570">J Abela</a>.</p>
<p>Europe moved on, but history tends to repeat itself.</p>
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		By: ACD		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ACD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most certainly not.  Cameron is displeased with federalist Commission presidents because he won&#039;t be able to renegotiate anything with them.  

The British electorate sees both Juncker and Schulz as part of the reviled EU establishment that needs to be changed.

Here Cameron is complaining that the EU he calls &quot;undemocratic&quot; has made a democratic decision he doesn&#039;t like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most certainly not.  Cameron is displeased with federalist Commission presidents because he won&#8217;t be able to renegotiate anything with them.  </p>
<p>The British electorate sees both Juncker and Schulz as part of the reviled EU establishment that needs to be changed.</p>
<p>Here Cameron is complaining that the EU he calls &#8220;undemocratic&#8221; has made a democratic decision he doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
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		By: Matthew S		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The spitzenkandidaten experiment where the leader of the biggest group in the European Parliament gets to be President of the European Commission has failed.

Many people haven&#039;t even realised that last weekend they were effectively voting for the President of the European Commission as much as for members of the European Parliament.

European leaders should do what they have always done and reach consensus on someone. Europe needs someone bold and reform minded who will convince Britain to stay in the EU and the rest of Europe to stop electing crackpots to its parliament.

Maybe someone less obscure than an EU technocrat would be a good idea..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The spitzenkandidaten experiment where the leader of the biggest group in the European Parliament gets to be President of the European Commission has failed.</p>
<p>Many people haven&#8217;t even realised that last weekend they were effectively voting for the President of the European Commission as much as for members of the European Parliament.</p>
<p>European leaders should do what they have always done and reach consensus on someone. Europe needs someone bold and reform minded who will convince Britain to stay in the EU and the rest of Europe to stop electing crackpots to its parliament.</p>
<p>Maybe someone less obscure than an EU technocrat would be a good idea..</p>
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		By: J Abela		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/cameron-doesnt-want-juncker-to-be-european-commission-president-but-would-his-electorate-have-been-happier-with-martin-vote-for-a-german-schulz/#comment-2073570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Abela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hilarious! It has to be a group of drunken English football fans to sing the &#039;Ten German Bombers&#039; song in Germany. Distasteful behavior indeed. But laughs apart, this thing with the English bringing up the WW2 subject at every possible chance they get is getting old. Europe moved on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious! It has to be a group of drunken English football fans to sing the &#8216;Ten German Bombers&#8217; song in Germany. Distasteful behavior indeed. But laughs apart, this thing with the English bringing up the WW2 subject at every possible chance they get is getting old. Europe moved on.</p>
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		By: anthony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neither does Angela Merkel want Juncker.

In fact she is determined not to let the European Parliament, which she despises, have any say in the matter. She wants the decision to be made by the heads of government.

Invariably, what she wants goes.

He who pays the piper....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither does Angela Merkel want Juncker.</p>
<p>In fact she is determined not to let the European Parliament, which she despises, have any say in the matter. She wants the decision to be made by the heads of government.</p>
<p>Invariably, what she wants goes.</p>
<p>He who pays the piper&#8230;.</p>
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