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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: gaetano pace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gaetano pace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 08:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reference was made to Tony Abela who at election time was in charge of the Labour Party Clubs. Like Mallia, Abela has a practice in the Criminal Courts and his clients are  well known. Certain names carried in the post above are landmarks within the corridors of our Criminal Courts. 

How could such an established, renowned criminal lawyer have let the names slip his attention? I do know the answer of his boss Joe: &quot;U x`fijjjjaaaa din?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reference was made to Tony Abela who at election time was in charge of the Labour Party Clubs. Like Mallia, Abela has a practice in the Criminal Courts and his clients are  well known. Certain names carried in the post above are landmarks within the corridors of our Criminal Courts. </p>
<p>How could such an established, renowned criminal lawyer have let the names slip his attention? I do know the answer of his boss Joe: &#8220;U x`fijjjjaaaa din?&#8221;</p>
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		By: ken il malti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken il malti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 00:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120681&quot;&gt;Joe Fenech&lt;/a&gt;.

Ignorance and uncouthness have to do with IQ level.

IQ levels have to do with genetics and a bit of the &quot;luck of the draw&quot;.

If these &quot;underclass people&quot; were never born, it would be a glorious thing for them and especially us and society in general.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120681">Joe Fenech</a>.</p>
<p>Ignorance and uncouthness have to do with IQ level.</p>
<p>IQ levels have to do with genetics and a bit of the &#8220;luck of the draw&#8221;.</p>
<p>If these &#8220;underclass people&#8221; were never born, it would be a glorious thing for them and especially us and society in general.</p>
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		By: Evarist Saliba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evarist Saliba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121491&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Your comment does not touch the essential point in my last sentence. I am speaking of &quot;right-thinking&quot; persons. Do you consider any person who ignores, condones or support violence in the pursuit of his political aims as a right-thinking person? For your information I can well understand why non-right-thinking persons do embrace violence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121491">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Your comment does not touch the essential point in my last sentence. I am speaking of &#8220;right-thinking&#8221; persons. Do you consider any person who ignores, condones or support violence in the pursuit of his political aims as a right-thinking person? For your information I can well understand why non-right-thinking persons do embrace violence.</p>
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		By: Francis Saliba M.D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Saliba M.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ighdli ma min taghmilha u nghidlek x&#039;int!  (Tr: Tell me whose company you keep and I will tell you what you are)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ighdli ma min taghmilha u nghidlek x&#8217;int!  (Tr: Tell me whose company you keep and I will tell you what you are)</p>
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		By: Francis Saliba M.D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Saliba M.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121491&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

There is nothing wrong in having a moral, ethical code and sticking to it.  Things must have come to a pretty pass if in Malta that is considered a &quot;problem&quot; so much so that our prime minister brashly grants &quot;waivers&quot; from observing ministerial parliamentary and medical ethics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121491">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong in having a moral, ethical code and sticking to it.  Things must have come to a pretty pass if in Malta that is considered a &#8220;problem&#8221; so much so that our prime minister brashly grants &#8220;waivers&#8221; from observing ministerial parliamentary and medical ethics.</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 16:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120771&quot;&gt;Evarist Saliba&lt;/a&gt;.

The problem with your thinking (and mine as well as a number of other people reading this blog) is that we stick to a certain moral and ethical code. 

This is why you &quot;cannot understand how any right-thinking person could ignore, excuse or support this move in this party.&quot;

Once you waiver those very ethics and morals that we hold dear, you have Muscat and the regression to the violent and criminal past. In a sense, this is why there is so much opposition to the slogan &quot;religio et patria.&quot;

I firmly believe that religion has no place in a secular state (I have read many of your comments over the years and I am sure you will disagree with me on this part). However I do not make mistake in removing religion and leaving a moral gap (at least we&#039;ll probably agree on this). 

Something else more sinister usually springs to fill in the gap as a value system. (It is not atheism that is the problem but immorality and amorality).

In Labour&#039;s case it is Muscat, the movement, positive energy and what have you. None of that is moral.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120771">Evarist Saliba</a>.</p>
<p>The problem with your thinking (and mine as well as a number of other people reading this blog) is that we stick to a certain moral and ethical code. </p>
<p>This is why you &#8220;cannot understand how any right-thinking person could ignore, excuse or support this move in this party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once you waiver those very ethics and morals that we hold dear, you have Muscat and the regression to the violent and criminal past. In a sense, this is why there is so much opposition to the slogan &#8220;religio et patria.&#8221;</p>
<p>I firmly believe that religion has no place in a secular state (I have read many of your comments over the years and I am sure you will disagree with me on this part). However I do not make mistake in removing religion and leaving a moral gap (at least we&#8217;ll probably agree on this). </p>
<p>Something else more sinister usually springs to fill in the gap as a value system. (It is not atheism that is the problem but immorality and amorality).</p>
<p>In Labour&#8217;s case it is Muscat, the movement, positive energy and what have you. None of that is moral.</p>
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		By: Disgusted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disgusted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121019&quot;&gt;curious&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right about Muscat as the individual. 

I was trying to summarise the entire history of the Labour party since Mintoff. 

Mine was an academic exercise, at the group level of analysis, aimed at describing the patterns of behaviour of the Labour Party over a long period of time. Muscat is the fruit of those patterns of behaviour and a means to transmit and reinforce them.

Muscat is not possible without the Labour Party behaviour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2121019">curious</a>.</p>
<p>You are right about Muscat as the individual. </p>
<p>I was trying to summarise the entire history of the Labour party since Mintoff. </p>
<p>Mine was an academic exercise, at the group level of analysis, aimed at describing the patterns of behaviour of the Labour Party over a long period of time. Muscat is the fruit of those patterns of behaviour and a means to transmit and reinforce them.</p>
<p>Muscat is not possible without the Labour Party behaviour.</p>
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		By: etil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[etil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120440&quot;&gt;Banana republic ... again&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course they feel at home.   The PL has shown clearly that it sides with people who the law courts have convicted - vide Cyrus Engerer and now the judge, and the list will go on.  In this way criminals know where to go for support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120440">Banana republic &#8230; again</a>.</p>
<p>Of course they feel at home.   The PL has shown clearly that it sides with people who the law courts have convicted &#8211; vide Cyrus Engerer and now the judge, and the list will go on.  In this way criminals know where to go for support.</p>
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		By: curious		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120859&quot;&gt;Disgusted&lt;/a&gt;.

There are many reasons why Muscat pursues the shady dealings you describe. 

First of all it has to be within your character to do so. Can you imagine  Fenech Adami taking certain shameful decisions that Muscat took during the past year? Certainly not.

There is one more important factor that should never be left out when dealing with Muscat. It has got nothing to do with the Labour Party or the good of the country. The man is so full of himself. It is ALL  about him. He wants to be admired for things which others never did or dreamt of doing. It is a case of the end justifies the means.

To accomplish this, he needs to be in power and therefore the need to placate people in return for votes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/drug-dealing-murderers-in-the-mario-camillerimatthew-zahra-case-used-to-meet-at-the-birzebbuga-labour-party-club/#comment-2120859">Disgusted</a>.</p>
<p>There are many reasons why Muscat pursues the shady dealings you describe. </p>
<p>First of all it has to be within your character to do so. Can you imagine  Fenech Adami taking certain shameful decisions that Muscat took during the past year? Certainly not.</p>
<p>There is one more important factor that should never be left out when dealing with Muscat. It has got nothing to do with the Labour Party or the good of the country. The man is so full of himself. It is ALL  about him. He wants to be admired for things which others never did or dreamt of doing. It is a case of the end justifies the means.</p>
<p>To accomplish this, he needs to be in power and therefore the need to placate people in return for votes.</p>
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		By: Disgusted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disgusted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To unashamedly pinch an argument  by Richard Dawkins about the chicken and egg conundrum, &#039;criminality is Labour&#039;s way of perpetuating the underclass and, thus, a certain way of life that guarantees the Labour vote.&#039;

Why else would Muscat continue in his shady dealings, open Maltese citizenship to all and sundry, and maintain the argument for decriminalising drugs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To unashamedly pinch an argument  by Richard Dawkins about the chicken and egg conundrum, &#8216;criminality is Labour&#8217;s way of perpetuating the underclass and, thus, a certain way of life that guarantees the Labour vote.&#8217;</p>
<p>Why else would Muscat continue in his shady dealings, open Maltese citizenship to all and sundry, and maintain the argument for decriminalising drugs.</p>
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