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	Comments on: The only way they could have got 100,000+ signatures is by fooling lots of people into thinking the petition wasn&#8217;t about hunting	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: A Stone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Stone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried to stimulate a debate on spring hunting and subject whether voluntarily or otherwise was deviated to something else. We finished up with calling other people names, trying to ridicule with unwitty jokes those who do not agree with you, etc., it&#039;s all up there. I am more convinced than ever before that the anti-spring hunting lobby is completely hollow. This is my last contribution on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to stimulate a debate on spring hunting and subject whether voluntarily or otherwise was deviated to something else. We finished up with calling other people names, trying to ridicule with unwitty jokes those who do not agree with you, etc., it&#8217;s all up there. I am more convinced than ever before that the anti-spring hunting lobby is completely hollow. This is my last contribution on the subject.</p>
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		By: Tabatha White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 06:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2094187&quot;&gt;keith&lt;/a&gt;.

There are other things in life besides money paid in fees or donations.

Where is the free option available to all for a Church school?

Why has this become the most elusive choice of the three option types?

Why should the Church schools not revise and reevaluate how things are done?

Why is the lottery system still imposed when a means test would be more equitable and valid as a determinant to free Church school education in today&#039;s world?

I believe there are stronger factors in favour of such a revision than against.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2094187">keith</a>.</p>
<p>There are other things in life besides money paid in fees or donations.</p>
<p>Where is the free option available to all for a Church school?</p>
<p>Why has this become the most elusive choice of the three option types?</p>
<p>Why should the Church schools not revise and reevaluate how things are done?</p>
<p>Why is the lottery system still imposed when a means test would be more equitable and valid as a determinant to free Church school education in today&#8217;s world?</p>
<p>I believe there are stronger factors in favour of such a revision than against.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 00:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2095355&quot;&gt;A Stone&lt;/a&gt;.

Baxxter cannot be wrong because Baxxter knows history a great deal more than you. Is that enough? I mean you&#039;re challenging someone who&#039;s written a treatise on ferreting. 

Let us first define &quot;hunting&quot; and then we can talk. Until then you are just an ignorant, bigoted man trying to take on a goddamn Giovanni Bonello.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2095355">A Stone</a>.</p>
<p>Baxxter cannot be wrong because Baxxter knows history a great deal more than you. Is that enough? I mean you&#8217;re challenging someone who&#8217;s written a treatise on ferreting. </p>
<p>Let us first define &#8220;hunting&#8221; and then we can talk. Until then you are just an ignorant, bigoted man trying to take on a goddamn Giovanni Bonello.</p>
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		By: Il-Buras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Il-Buras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you believe what they&#039;ve done? They got on board the petition horse enthusiasts and others promising that when they are under fire like hunters are they will sign their petition as well. Disgusting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you believe what they&#8217;ve done? They got on board the petition horse enthusiasts and others promising that when they are under fire like hunters are they will sign their petition as well. Disgusting!</p>
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		By: Spock		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2109989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 08:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2087738&quot;&gt;Pat&lt;/a&gt;.

Apart from the obvious, the hunters do not want this referendum to take place because it will bring to light the true number of people who are opposed to their blood sport and will therefore no longer be able to hold both political parties hostage in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2087738">Pat</a>.</p>
<p>Apart from the obvious, the hunters do not want this referendum to take place because it will bring to light the true number of people who are opposed to their blood sport and will therefore no longer be able to hold both political parties hostage in the future.</p>
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		By: B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What we have here is, in fact, a very public admission by the hunters&#039; lobby that they are aware they cannot obtain enough support if pro-hunting concessions were the only question put to the electorate. They are aware that surrogate support can only be obtained by subterfuge - an own goal if there ever was one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we have here is, in fact, a very public admission by the hunters&#8217; lobby that they are aware they cannot obtain enough support if pro-hunting concessions were the only question put to the electorate. They are aware that surrogate support can only be obtained by subterfuge &#8211; an own goal if there ever was one.</p>
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		By: M. Borg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M. Borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The hunters&#039; petition is not about protecting hunting, it is about protecting minorities.

Hunters are as much a minority as serial killers are a minority.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hunters&#8217; petition is not about protecting hunting, it is about protecting minorities.</p>
<p>Hunters are as much a minority as serial killers are a minority.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2087573&quot;&gt;nemesis&lt;/a&gt;.

The fundamental difference is that to form political parties is a right and the right to stand for election is protected by the Constitution. 

While on the other hand, hunting is an insensitive, destructive hobby which affects nature negatively.

Your argument is invalid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2087573">nemesis</a>.</p>
<p>The fundamental difference is that to form political parties is a right and the right to stand for election is protected by the Constitution. </p>
<p>While on the other hand, hunting is an insensitive, destructive hobby which affects nature negatively.</p>
<p>Your argument is invalid.</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2093815&quot;&gt;A Stone&lt;/a&gt;.

Most &#039;hunters&#039; in the 80s were actually gun-collecting enthusiasts, who applied for hunting licences because, due to the archaic restricting laws of the time, it was the only way they could own a gun. 

It was also a time when, if you wanted to shoot clay pigeons, you had to have a hunting licence. 

Times have changed, and the laws have been updated to reflect the times, and most of these people have moved on to sport (the real thing) shooting to practise shooting on the range, with no harm to the environment.

Of course, some have been left behind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2093815">A Stone</a>.</p>
<p>Most &#8216;hunters&#8217; in the 80s were actually gun-collecting enthusiasts, who applied for hunting licences because, due to the archaic restricting laws of the time, it was the only way they could own a gun. </p>
<p>It was also a time when, if you wanted to shoot clay pigeons, you had to have a hunting licence. </p>
<p>Times have changed, and the laws have been updated to reflect the times, and most of these people have moved on to sport (the real thing) shooting to practise shooting on the range, with no harm to the environment.</p>
<p>Of course, some have been left behind.</p>
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		By: Neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2090614&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Shooting with automatic shotguns, having five or more cartridges in the magazine is surely modern. Traditional hunting was carried out either with one or two-barrelled shotguns (or muskets in the older days) having one cartridge per barrel. It was also meant to be hunting for game birds.

As for trapping, it is even more modern than hunting. 

How would anyone imagine that people had so much spare time in the old days to stay sitting idle on a field, for days on end, waiting for song-birds (finches, mainly) to fall into the trap so that they could keep them locked in cages (or even more realistically, sell them)? 

Please note that no-one is actually interested in the trapping of game birds for food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/06/the-only-way-they-could-have-got-100000-signatures-is-by-fooling-lots-of-people-into-thinking-the-petition-wasnt-about-hunting/#comment-2090614">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Shooting with automatic shotguns, having five or more cartridges in the magazine is surely modern. Traditional hunting was carried out either with one or two-barrelled shotguns (or muskets in the older days) having one cartridge per barrel. It was also meant to be hunting for game birds.</p>
<p>As for trapping, it is even more modern than hunting. </p>
<p>How would anyone imagine that people had so much spare time in the old days to stay sitting idle on a field, for days on end, waiting for song-birds (finches, mainly) to fall into the trap so that they could keep them locked in cages (or even more realistically, sell them)? </p>
<p>Please note that no-one is actually interested in the trapping of game birds for food.</p>
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