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	Comments on: EU membership is not enough to protect us. Look at what is happening in Hungary.	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Floater		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The EU has all the mechanisms and enforcements to prevent these things. But this depends on the willingness of the member state to remain a member, actually, and it&#039;s willingness to retain credentials within the democratic civilised world. 

The EU can impose fines, which members can refuse to pay. Ultimately, members can be expelled. Bluntly, if a member state becomes a dictatorship, for example by a coup, the EU cannot intervene militarily to restore democracy. Probably the bloc will expel it and  impose economic sanctions, but the latter is doubtful and also hypocritical, as long as the EU continues dealing with other dictatorships outside the bloc. 

So yes, when one thinks more about it, this protection has its limits after all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EU has all the mechanisms and enforcements to prevent these things. But this depends on the willingness of the member state to remain a member, actually, and it&#8217;s willingness to retain credentials within the democratic civilised world. </p>
<p>The EU can impose fines, which members can refuse to pay. Ultimately, members can be expelled. Bluntly, if a member state becomes a dictatorship, for example by a coup, the EU cannot intervene militarily to restore democracy. Probably the bloc will expel it and  impose economic sanctions, but the latter is doubtful and also hypocritical, as long as the EU continues dealing with other dictatorships outside the bloc. </p>
<p>So yes, when one thinks more about it, this protection has its limits after all.</p>
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		By: bun-seeker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bun-seeker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In five years, all the money will have been drained and therefore   general elections will have to be postponed up to the time that Joe Mizzi declares that we have struck oil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In five years, all the money will have been drained and therefore   general elections will have to be postponed up to the time that Joe Mizzi declares that we have struck oil.</p>
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		By: observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/eu-membership-is-not-enough-to-protect-us-look-at-what-is-happening-in-hungary/#comment-2299044&quot;&gt;stephen saliba&lt;/a&gt;.

Is &#039;parliamentary dictatorship&#039; a &#039;spade&#039;?

Is that what you mean?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/eu-membership-is-not-enough-to-protect-us-look-at-what-is-happening-in-hungary/#comment-2299044">stephen saliba</a>.</p>
<p>Is &#8216;parliamentary dictatorship&#8217; a &#8216;spade&#8217;?</p>
<p>Is that what you mean?</p>
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		By: M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140729/opinion/Innocent-face-of-crime.529699]]></description>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have doubts about what the real situation in Hungary is. It&#039;s impossible to follow the Hungarian press due to language. In any case if it is true there is a threat to democracy, then the EU and other EU states should speak on this issue. The EU should hold uphold democratic values, especially in its Member States.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - David, somewhere in this thread you will find a link I posted (admin) to a faithful translation of the Hungarian PM&#039;s speech. Read it.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have doubts about what the real situation in Hungary is. It&#8217;s impossible to follow the Hungarian press due to language. In any case if it is true there is a threat to democracy, then the EU and other EU states should speak on this issue. The EU should hold uphold democratic values, especially in its Member States.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; David, somewhere in this thread you will find a link I posted (admin) to a faithful translation of the Hungarian PM&#8217;s speech. Read it.]</strong></p>
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		By: stephen saliba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephen saliba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/eu-membership-is-not-enough-to-protect-us-look-at-what-is-happening-in-hungary/#comment-2298342&quot;&gt;John Higgins&lt;/a&gt;.

&#062;John Higgins whoever you are.  I have always had the guts to tell it as it is in ANY era.  Needless to say I certainly do not hide behind a pseudonym. Unfortunately (more often for me) I have been brought up to call a spade a spade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/eu-membership-is-not-enough-to-protect-us-look-at-what-is-happening-in-hungary/#comment-2298342">John Higgins</a>.</p>
<p>&gt;John Higgins whoever you are.  I have always had the guts to tell it as it is in ANY era.  Needless to say I certainly do not hide behind a pseudonym. Unfortunately (more often for me) I have been brought up to call a spade a spade.</p>
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		By: mc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are indications that Malta will be taking the same road as Hungary – maybe this is the road-map which Joseph Muscat was referring to prior to the elections.   

The suggested postponement of local council elections is but the start of that.    The secretive deals made, or that will be made, with non-democratic states are further indicators.  In addition, the government has put Malta’s energy production infrastructure under the control of a foreign state.     

Hungary is a test case.  The PN should lobby EU institutions, including the EU parliament so that the EU will take appropriate action to prevent Orban in his intentions.  If the EU fails to take decisive action against Orban, it will also not do anything if Muscat chooses to go down the same route.  

There are some leading PL activists who have a brain and a conscience and who can understand that undermining democracy is not in the best interest of Malta and the Maltese.  They have a responsibility to stand up to Joseph Muscat and warn him against contemplating any such action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are indications that Malta will be taking the same road as Hungary – maybe this is the road-map which Joseph Muscat was referring to prior to the elections.   </p>
<p>The suggested postponement of local council elections is but the start of that.    The secretive deals made, or that will be made, with non-democratic states are further indicators.  In addition, the government has put Malta’s energy production infrastructure under the control of a foreign state.     </p>
<p>Hungary is a test case.  The PN should lobby EU institutions, including the EU parliament so that the EU will take appropriate action to prevent Orban in his intentions.  If the EU fails to take decisive action against Orban, it will also not do anything if Muscat chooses to go down the same route.  </p>
<p>There are some leading PL activists who have a brain and a conscience and who can understand that undermining democracy is not in the best interest of Malta and the Maltese.  They have a responsibility to stand up to Joseph Muscat and warn him against contemplating any such action.</p>
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		By: John Higgins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Higgins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has Stephen Saliba forgotten his Labour sympathies during the glorious 16 1/2 years of Socialist rule  way back in the 70s and 80s?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Stephen Saliba forgotten his Labour sympathies during the glorious 16 1/2 years of Socialist rule  way back in the 70s and 80s?</p>
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		By: Francis Saliba MD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francis Saliba MD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Postponing local government elections could very well be &quot;testing the waters&quot; with one&#039;s toes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Postponing local government elections could very well be &#8220;testing the waters&#8221; with one&#8217;s toes.</p>
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		By: Calculator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calculator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This can only embolden Muscat to drop all pretenses or otherwise continue to strive to achieve the same as he&#039;s been doing so far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can only embolden Muscat to drop all pretenses or otherwise continue to strive to achieve the same as he&#8217;s been doing so far.</p>
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