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		By: Typically Labour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Typically Labour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a different world, Twanny Bronka would be hounded by journalists to explain the maths of it all and to expose him for the liar and cheat that he is.

The fact that he can get away with it and more so that his Prime Minister allows him to go on regardless speaks volumes of Malta&#039;s fourth estate and of the disdain with which our Great Leader unashamedly treats the electorate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a different world, Twanny Bronka would be hounded by journalists to explain the maths of it all and to expose him for the liar and cheat that he is.</p>
<p>The fact that he can get away with it and more so that his Prime Minister allows him to go on regardless speaks volumes of Malta&#8217;s fourth estate and of the disdain with which our Great Leader unashamedly treats the electorate.</p>
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		By: Tal-Malja		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tal-Malja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[23 properties? Ma irridx inkun sufa f&#039;gismu.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23 properties? Ma irridx inkun sufa f&#8217;gismu.</p>
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		By: jesmond		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jesmond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is an interest-only home loan probably at rate of 3.25%. The problem is that the monthly repayment equates to his monthly net income. Something does not add up here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interest-only home loan probably at rate of 3.25%. The problem is that the monthly repayment equates to his monthly net income. Something does not add up here.</p>
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		By: claude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 20:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2292613&quot;&gt;WhoamI?&lt;/a&gt;.

So the question now is how does The Sunday Times publish a story like this without doing the simple maths and going back to the minister with more questions. 

By just publishing the minister&#039;s reply they give it credence and by not checking things out they are not serving their readers well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2292613">WhoamI?</a>.</p>
<p>So the question now is how does The Sunday Times publish a story like this without doing the simple maths and going back to the minister with more questions. </p>
<p>By just publishing the minister&#8217;s reply they give it credence and by not checking things out they are not serving their readers well.</p>
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		By: chico		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just reckoned that if he&#039;s 60, retires at 65 and has borrowed 812k at a measly 3% per annum, he&#039;d have to repay at the rate of 14,500 monthly, which I guess, is fairly reasonable if he rakes in 500 a month on each property { (24 x 50) = 12 000}.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reckoned that if he&#8217;s 60, retires at 65 and has borrowed 812k at a measly 3% per annum, he&#8217;d have to repay at the rate of 14,500 monthly, which I guess, is fairly reasonable if he rakes in 500 a month on each property { (24 x 50) = 12 000}.</p>
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		By: Stephen Forster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Forster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293337&quot;&gt;Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Apparently so and this twat has been dodging them a long time]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293337">Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Apparently so and this twat has been dodging them a long time</p>
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		By: chico		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293728&quot;&gt;chico&lt;/a&gt;.

On that declared income and age bracket APS might grant him a loan of circa 100k. Repayments would have to be of about 1400 a month. BOV and HSBC would probably tell you if you furnished them with the data: i.e. age and income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293728">chico</a>.</p>
<p>On that declared income and age bracket APS might grant him a loan of circa 100k. Repayments would have to be of about 1400 a month. BOV and HSBC would probably tell you if you furnished them with the data: i.e. age and income.</p>
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		By: scott brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scott brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293728&quot;&gt;chico&lt;/a&gt;.

If he is 59 or 60 he should retire at 62 the most ie in two years ie 24 months.

Banks normally insist that all loans are normally paid by retirement age with installments not exceeding one third of the total income so our dear minister has only 24 months to pay his hefty loan of Euro 812,000 or Euro 33,833 a month (not considering interest rates) which would reach in the region of Euro 64000 more. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/so-do-they-take-us-for-complete-suckers-or-what/#comment-2293728">chico</a>.</p>
<p>If he is 59 or 60 he should retire at 62 the most ie in two years ie 24 months.</p>
<p>Banks normally insist that all loans are normally paid by retirement age with installments not exceeding one third of the total income so our dear minister has only 24 months to pay his hefty loan of Euro 812,000 or Euro 33,833 a month (not considering interest rates) which would reach in the region of Euro 64000 more. </p>
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		By: Angus Black		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The interest and amortization may be influenced by what the loan is secured with.

If partially secured, it is improbable that a bank would extend the amortization period beyond 25 years. Banks have rules which vary somewhat but in this case it appears that the bank has really disregarded its own established rules.

An €812,000 loan, amortized over 25 years at 3.29 % interest rate (tough to beat) requires payments of €3965 per month.

If he reported payments of €2250 per month on his Declaration of Income and Assets, then there is something awfully wrong. What is being generally ignored, is the fact that banks have yet another calculation which they do and if the applicant fails it, then the loan is not granted.

2250 x 12 = 27,000. He declared an income of €45,000. So his Gross Debt Service Ratio (GDSR) = 60%.

Which bank would grant a loan of ANY amount if, in order to pay back the loan, the yearly payments amount to 60% of his GROSS income? Remember that from the remaining 40% he has to pay income tax, buy groceries, clothing, pay cheap electricity bills, personal entertainment expenses, medical, dental and other incidental expenses.

I think that the Opposition should start hammering this idiot and if they do not, then they will look like fools.

A much deeper investigation of this man&#039;s income, preferential bank loan, his overall assets and what the true income he is receiving from them and whether he has presented false Declarations in Parliament, is required.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interest and amortization may be influenced by what the loan is secured with.</p>
<p>If partially secured, it is improbable that a bank would extend the amortization period beyond 25 years. Banks have rules which vary somewhat but in this case it appears that the bank has really disregarded its own established rules.</p>
<p>An €812,000 loan, amortized over 25 years at 3.29 % interest rate (tough to beat) requires payments of €3965 per month.</p>
<p>If he reported payments of €2250 per month on his Declaration of Income and Assets, then there is something awfully wrong. What is being generally ignored, is the fact that banks have yet another calculation which they do and if the applicant fails it, then the loan is not granted.</p>
<p>2250 x 12 = 27,000. He declared an income of €45,000. So his Gross Debt Service Ratio (GDSR) = 60%.</p>
<p>Which bank would grant a loan of ANY amount if, in order to pay back the loan, the yearly payments amount to 60% of his GROSS income? Remember that from the remaining 40% he has to pay income tax, buy groceries, clothing, pay cheap electricity bills, personal entertainment expenses, medical, dental and other incidental expenses.</p>
<p>I think that the Opposition should start hammering this idiot and if they do not, then they will look like fools.</p>
<p>A much deeper investigation of this man&#8217;s income, preferential bank loan, his overall assets and what the true income he is receiving from them and whether he has presented false Declarations in Parliament, is required.</p>
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		By: chico		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently enquired about personal loans myself. Maltese banks will not give personal loans whose payment (all capita + interest) goes beyond the age of 65. So how old is the guy?

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - 59/60.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently enquired about personal loans myself. Maltese banks will not give personal loans whose payment (all capita + interest) goes beyond the age of 65. So how old is the guy?</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; 59/60.]</strong></p>
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