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	Comments on: The general consensus on the buses: that a bad service in smelly and dirty conditions run by Maltese people that costs the taxpayer Eur26 million a year is preferable to a better service in clean and efficient conditions run by BARRANIN U INGLIZI who pick up the bill themselves	</title>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been to Malta several times and one of the most displeasing things is the total overcrowding of the buses. 

Knowing what a sardine feels like and all you hear from the bus driver is &quot;move back&quot;.

Is there no law stating the amount of people who can stand, and if the buses are so overcrowded why are there not more regular buses? It&#039;s not rocket science. 

Another thing that really p****s me off is the number of people who are prepared to push in to get on the bus and the driver allowing this to happen.

Don&#039;t they know the meaning of queuing or are they that ignorant that they don&#039;t care about any one but themselves? Try telling them not to push and they totally ignore you or swear at you in some foreign language. 

It&#039;s about time something was done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to Malta several times and one of the most displeasing things is the total overcrowding of the buses. </p>
<p>Knowing what a sardine feels like and all you hear from the bus driver is &#8220;move back&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is there no law stating the amount of people who can stand, and if the buses are so overcrowded why are there not more regular buses? It&#8217;s not rocket science. </p>
<p>Another thing that really p****s me off is the number of people who are prepared to push in to get on the bus and the driver allowing this to happen.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they know the meaning of queuing or are they that ignorant that they don&#8217;t care about any one but themselves? Try telling them not to push and they totally ignore you or swear at you in some foreign language. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time something was done.</p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob-a-job]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232308&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

They won&#039;t be Spanish. It&#039;s all smoke screen. They will be a Maltese consortium which will cost the tax payer almost the same sum the dockyard used to cost us.

Minister Joe Mizzi said himself that subsidies could amount to around 40 to 45 million annually.

With Arriva the subsidies were capped at a maximum of 10 million and the company forked out the rest.

How the PN isn&#039;t calling for Mizzi&#039;s resignation is beyond me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232308">Paul</a>.</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t be Spanish. It&#8217;s all smoke screen. They will be a Maltese consortium which will cost the tax payer almost the same sum the dockyard used to cost us.</p>
<p>Minister Joe Mizzi said himself that subsidies could amount to around 40 to 45 million annually.</p>
<p>With Arriva the subsidies were capped at a maximum of 10 million and the company forked out the rest.</p>
<p>How the PN isn&#8217;t calling for Mizzi&#8217;s resignation is beyond me.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232895&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Herman Grech is clearly in love with himself. That&#039;s not bad in itself, but he is also not angry at anyone. So his editorial line is just stuff that makes him look good, not the stuff of editorial fisticuffs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232895">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Herman Grech is clearly in love with himself. That&#8217;s not bad in itself, but he is also not angry at anyone. So his editorial line is just stuff that makes him look good, not the stuff of editorial fisticuffs.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232652&quot;&gt;Toni&lt;/a&gt;.

Remember when the mayor of Paola complained that residents were stressed due the &#039;racket&#039; caused by automatic opening doors. 

Too many bus routes converged onto Paola Square he said, leading to and from everywhere, go figure.

What will be the greatest waste of money and resources is the absolute lack of any lesson learnt and recorded. 

It&#039;s always from scratch with Labour, ghax inkella mhux Maltin hielsa. Sigh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232652">Toni</a>.</p>
<p>Remember when the mayor of Paola complained that residents were stressed due the &#8216;racket&#8217; caused by automatic opening doors. </p>
<p>Too many bus routes converged onto Paola Square he said, leading to and from everywhere, go figure.</p>
<p>What will be the greatest waste of money and resources is the absolute lack of any lesson learnt and recorded. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always from scratch with Labour, ghax inkella mhux Maltin hielsa. Sigh.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232895&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, that too. 

It&#039;s also our tendency to be nasty to each other. 

I&#039;ve seen impromptu committees made up of everyone and their dog whenever some old lady asked for directions elsewhere.  

Even because a system requires a minimum of cognition of concept. 

Never saw a map outlining instantly how it works; the real challenge. Strange, coming from the same administration which executed an exemplary changeover to the Euro and one of Europe&#039;s most successful waste separation campaigns. 

In Malta, people just aren&#039;t courteous to each other, except forced smiles and servile entertaining the turist mitluf, only then is Malta supposedly very najs. 

One does think we&#039;re either infatuated with everything &#039;ta&#039; barra&#039; or viciously &#039;Maltese&#039;. No balance whatsoever. 

Times of Malta&#039;s agenda, to this day, incomprehensible. Whatever it is, because it still is, definitely not in our collective interest. 

Playing dumb and passive now that our taxes shall subsidise abuse is also part of the problem. 

I thought newspapers had an editorial line, not this snide attempt at denigration. Then I see the line-up of &#039;award winning  journalists&#039; and it&#039;s clear. 

Believe me when I tell you they&#039;re as dumb and in love with themselves gracing some radical chic party. I think that&#039;s nasty too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232895">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, that too. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also our tendency to be nasty to each other. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen impromptu committees made up of everyone and their dog whenever some old lady asked for directions elsewhere.  </p>
<p>Even because a system requires a minimum of cognition of concept. </p>
<p>Never saw a map outlining instantly how it works; the real challenge. Strange, coming from the same administration which executed an exemplary changeover to the Euro and one of Europe&#8217;s most successful waste separation campaigns. </p>
<p>In Malta, people just aren&#8217;t courteous to each other, except forced smiles and servile entertaining the turist mitluf, only then is Malta supposedly very najs. </p>
<p>One does think we&#8217;re either infatuated with everything &#8216;ta&#8217; barra&#8217; or viciously &#8216;Maltese&#8217;. No balance whatsoever. </p>
<p>Times of Malta&#8217;s agenda, to this day, incomprehensible. Whatever it is, because it still is, definitely not in our collective interest. </p>
<p>Playing dumb and passive now that our taxes shall subsidise abuse is also part of the problem. </p>
<p>I thought newspapers had an editorial line, not this snide attempt at denigration. Then I see the line-up of &#8216;award winning  journalists&#8217; and it&#8217;s clear. </p>
<p>Believe me when I tell you they&#8217;re as dumb and in love with themselves gracing some radical chic party. I think that&#8217;s nasty too.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 11:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232768&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

The routes were designed by mandarins who lived and worked all their lives in Malta. THAT, my dear Jozef, was the reason it was a shambles. 

You need people who&#039;ve lived and commuted in a metropolis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232768">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>The routes were designed by mandarins who lived and worked all their lives in Malta. THAT, my dear Jozef, was the reason it was a shambles. </p>
<p>You need people who&#8217;ve lived and commuted in a metropolis.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 11:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232803&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

http://piecefit.com/gallery/img/91.jpg

Enough said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232803">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://piecefit.com/gallery/img/91.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://piecefit.com/gallery/img/91.jpg</a></p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232324&quot;&gt;Alexander Ball&lt;/a&gt;.

Bogota&#039; managed its revival using what is perhaps the best application of the rapid bus transit type system. 

It&#039;s feeder secondary routes are free, main &#039;stations&#039; being nodes where tickets are required. 

Main boulevards were wide enough to close off a lane, feeder routes weren&#039;t. It soon became obvious people preferred to bike to the nearest station. 

What started off as a social experiment to rework the distance between rich and poor created pockets of traffic free &#039;ghettoes&#039; increasing property values. 

Labour and its newspaper Times of Malta worked to the opposite. 

The same system in China failed to take off. 

Access, as much as the virtual type, is a right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/07/the-general-consensus-on-the-buses-that-a-bad-service-in-smelly-and-dirty-conditions-run-by-maltese-people-is-preferable-to-a-better-service-in-clean-and-efficient-conditions-run-by-barranin-u-ingliz/#comment-2232324">Alexander Ball</a>.</p>
<p>Bogota&#8217; managed its revival using what is perhaps the best application of the rapid bus transit type system. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s feeder secondary routes are free, main &#8216;stations&#8217; being nodes where tickets are required. </p>
<p>Main boulevards were wide enough to close off a lane, feeder routes weren&#8217;t. It soon became obvious people preferred to bike to the nearest station. </p>
<p>What started off as a social experiment to rework the distance between rich and poor created pockets of traffic free &#8216;ghettoes&#8217; increasing property values. </p>
<p>Labour and its newspaper Times of Malta worked to the opposite. </p>
<p>The same system in China failed to take off. </p>
<p>Access, as much as the virtual type, is a right.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The system will fail. And it will &#039;ghax taghna f&#039;taghna.&#039;

That old man is the quintessential commuter, invariably the same route.  

And he won&#039;t accept anyone else on &#039;his&#039; bus, thus routes cannot change. Call it a glorified taxi to Valletta. 

Valletta, where ministri have their bazuzli and appuntamenti can be had. 

The opposite of design. Labour&#039;s project is this vile. 

People like David choose this way of life, if one had to offer David a day ticket in Milan&#039;s or London&#039;s undergrounds, he&#039;d be at a loss what to do. 

David wouldn&#039;t realise he gets to travel on trams and surface transport as well. 

It&#039;s called interface, where user and system create function. 

Delia failed to explain interface, actually there was no interface. Even distinct colour helps, no sign of that, fatal mistake. 

What&#039;s horrific now is that the Valletta pensjonant gets to determine who commutes, Times of Malta following religiously with a microphone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system will fail. And it will &#8216;ghax taghna f&#8217;taghna.&#8217;</p>
<p>That old man is the quintessential commuter, invariably the same route.  </p>
<p>And he won&#8217;t accept anyone else on &#8216;his&#8217; bus, thus routes cannot change. Call it a glorified taxi to Valletta. </p>
<p>Valletta, where ministri have their bazuzli and appuntamenti can be had. </p>
<p>The opposite of design. Labour&#8217;s project is this vile. </p>
<p>People like David choose this way of life, if one had to offer David a day ticket in Milan&#8217;s or London&#8217;s undergrounds, he&#8217;d be at a loss what to do. </p>
<p>David wouldn&#8217;t realise he gets to travel on trams and surface transport as well. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s called interface, where user and system create function. </p>
<p>Delia failed to explain interface, actually there was no interface. Even distinct colour helps, no sign of that, fatal mistake. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s horrific now is that the Valletta pensjonant gets to determine who commutes, Times of Malta following religiously with a microphone.</p>
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		By: Toni		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nobody mentions the fact that older persons have to use mini-vans with high steps and have to open and close the heavy doors themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody mentions the fact that older persons have to use mini-vans with high steps and have to open and close the heavy doors themselves.</p>
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