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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: albona		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2613555&quot;&gt;H.P. Baxxter&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Baxx. You are quite right when you say that it is not clear cut, but then again nor are many rules on trade. The EU knows all to well how hard it is to negotiate on trading conditions. It is their bread and butter. 

However, the main sticking point is not the complexity of evaluating how much of a product needs to have been made in the EU for it to be labelled as such. The main reason this is not being done is that a few countries outrightly abuse their respective &#039;Made in&#039; labels to the obvious detriment of the others. It is a labelling Wild West. Here are some countries that prove that proper labelling can be done: Canada and Australia.

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/03169.html

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&#039;The new Guidelines introduce a distinction between &quot;Product of Canada&quot; and &quot;Made in Canada&quot; claims. &quot;Product of Canada&quot; claims will be subject to a higher threshold of Canadian content (98%), while &quot;Made in Canada&quot; claims will remain subject to a 51% threshold of Canadian content but should be accompanied by a qualifying statement indicating that the product contains imported content. In both cases, the last substantial transformation of the product must have occurred in Canada&#039;.

http://www.australianmade.com.au/why-buy-australian-made/about-the-logo/

Just for the record I agree with your last paragraph.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2613555">H.P. Baxxter</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Baxx. You are quite right when you say that it is not clear cut, but then again nor are many rules on trade. The EU knows all to well how hard it is to negotiate on trading conditions. It is their bread and butter. </p>
<p>However, the main sticking point is not the complexity of evaluating how much of a product needs to have been made in the EU for it to be labelled as such. The main reason this is not being done is that a few countries outrightly abuse their respective &#8216;Made in&#8217; labels to the obvious detriment of the others. It is a labelling Wild West. Here are some countries that prove that proper labelling can be done: Canada and Australia.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/03169.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/03169.html</a></p>
<p>I quote:</p>
<p>&#8216;The new Guidelines introduce a distinction between &#8220;Product of Canada&#8221; and &#8220;Made in Canada&#8221; claims. &#8220;Product of Canada&#8221; claims will be subject to a higher threshold of Canadian content (98%), while &#8220;Made in Canada&#8221; claims will remain subject to a 51% threshold of Canadian content but should be accompanied by a qualifying statement indicating that the product contains imported content. In both cases, the last substantial transformation of the product must have occurred in Canada&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australianmade.com.au/why-buy-australian-made/about-the-logo/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.australianmade.com.au/why-buy-australian-made/about-the-logo/</a></p>
<p>Just for the record I agree with your last paragraph.</p>
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		By: chico		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was this stuff for export?  Did the administration turn a blind eye (which it apparently must have, and for a number of years too). Does this fall within the parameters of state aid, I wonder?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this stuff for export?  Did the administration turn a blind eye (which it apparently must have, and for a number of years too). Does this fall within the parameters of state aid, I wonder?</p>
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		By: Wink		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why not further investigate to which outlet was this Chinese factory supplying stock under a different &#039;label&#039;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not further investigate to which outlet was this Chinese factory supplying stock under a different &#8216;label&#8217;?</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610774&quot;&gt;P Shaw&lt;/a&gt;.

Does he pay their national insurance contributions, or are they employed &lt;em&gt;bil-prekarjat?&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610774">P Shaw</a>.</p>
<p>Does he pay their national insurance contributions, or are they employed <em>bil-prekarjat?</em></p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610551&quot;&gt;curious&lt;/a&gt;.

When is Peppi going to have the Chinese slave workers on Xarabank to tell us their story and to make a collection for them?

Kif tista&#039; ma tidhaqx.

Kif tista&#039; ma tibkix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610551">curious</a>.</p>
<p>When is Peppi going to have the Chinese slave workers on Xarabank to tell us their story and to make a collection for them?</p>
<p>Kif tista&#8217; ma tidhaqx.</p>
<p>Kif tista&#8217; ma tibkix.</p>
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		By: Spock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610551&quot;&gt;curious&lt;/a&gt;.

Issa tara ! And if he does it will all be blamed on the previous government .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610551">curious</a>.</p>
<p>Issa tara ! And if he does it will all be blamed on the previous government .</p>
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		By: Spock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610316&quot;&gt;G Wells&lt;/a&gt;.

Till now]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610316">G Wells</a>.</p>
<p>Till now</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2613238&quot;&gt;albona&lt;/a&gt;.

Because the &quot;Made in the EU&quot; label is open to all sorts of interpretations, albona.

Let&#039;s say you buy a tablet that made in the EU. Really made in the EU. But that tablet contains thousands of electronic components. Does that mean each of them was made in the EU?

Or you buy a pair of shoes that&#039;s made in the EU. Where was the leather made? And the thread?

It&#039;s not as clear-cut as it seems.

Of course I agree with you. If it were up to me I&#039;d build a tariff barrier that would slow Chinese imports to a trickle. But then liberals and capitalist CEOs alike would accuse me of being a Nazi who wants to starve the poor Chinese. The former because they believe free trade brings freedom (it doesn&#039;t) and the latter because they&#039;d have to knock a couple of digits off their massive paycheques.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2613238">albona</a>.</p>
<p>Because the &#8220;Made in the EU&#8221; label is open to all sorts of interpretations, albona.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you buy a tablet that made in the EU. Really made in the EU. But that tablet contains thousands of electronic components. Does that mean each of them was made in the EU?</p>
<p>Or you buy a pair of shoes that&#8217;s made in the EU. Where was the leather made? And the thread?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as clear-cut as it seems.</p>
<p>Of course I agree with you. If it were up to me I&#8217;d build a tariff barrier that would slow Chinese imports to a trickle. But then liberals and capitalist CEOs alike would accuse me of being a Nazi who wants to starve the poor Chinese. The former because they believe free trade brings freedom (it doesn&#8217;t) and the latter because they&#8217;d have to knock a couple of digits off their massive paycheques.</p>
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		By: albona		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know that I am going to be told that I am missing the point on this one. True, the fact that slaves are being used in Europe is criminal as it is happening under our noses and within the territory where our laws should be enforced. 

However, anyone who buy clothes from most high street shops should hang their heads in shame. Just because it was made in China or Bangladesh does not make you somehow any less guilty than the slave drivers. After all it is you that is funding this business. 

Those who fly those luxury Middle-Eastern carriers should know that places like the UAE and Qatar are massive slave centres. Ever wondered why flights are so cheap?

Then there are the governments that are complicit in all of this - all for profit. 

The EU and several pressure groups have been trying to establish a Made in EU label for years now but it is always the same countries that oppose it. The largest two being the UK and Germany, two countries that abuse their own national &#039;Made in&#039; labels when 99% of the product carrying the label is actually made in workhouses in Asia. 

My point being, know what you are buying — as far as that is possible — and stick to the brands you are fairly certain do not abuse their workers. For a number of years now I have been trying to buy products of durable quality rather than buying poor quality items in quantity. 

Ultimately it is the people who bring about change - bottom up, not top down. Governments go as low as the people allow them to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that I am going to be told that I am missing the point on this one. True, the fact that slaves are being used in Europe is criminal as it is happening under our noses and within the territory where our laws should be enforced. </p>
<p>However, anyone who buy clothes from most high street shops should hang their heads in shame. Just because it was made in China or Bangladesh does not make you somehow any less guilty than the slave drivers. After all it is you that is funding this business. </p>
<p>Those who fly those luxury Middle-Eastern carriers should know that places like the UAE and Qatar are massive slave centres. Ever wondered why flights are so cheap?</p>
<p>Then there are the governments that are complicit in all of this &#8211; all for profit. </p>
<p>The EU and several pressure groups have been trying to establish a Made in EU label for years now but it is always the same countries that oppose it. The largest two being the UK and Germany, two countries that abuse their own national &#8216;Made in&#8217; labels when 99% of the product carrying the label is actually made in workhouses in Asia. </p>
<p>My point being, know what you are buying — as far as that is possible — and stick to the brands you are fairly certain do not abuse their workers. For a number of years now I have been trying to buy products of durable quality rather than buying poor quality items in quantity. </p>
<p>Ultimately it is the people who bring about change &#8211; bottom up, not top down. Governments go as low as the people allow them to.</p>
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		By: G Wells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610316&quot;&gt;G Wells&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh I&#039;m fully aware Daphne. It&#039;s not me that this needs to be pointed out to, but all the high level government/police officials who allow this horrible behaviour here and in every other western country the chinese &#039;invest&#039; in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/10/chinese-slave-labour-at-leisure-clothing-malta-more-shocking-details-emerge/#comment-2610316">G Wells</a>.</p>
<p>Oh I&#8217;m fully aware Daphne. It&#8217;s not me that this needs to be pointed out to, but all the high level government/police officials who allow this horrible behaviour here and in every other western country the chinese &#8216;invest&#8217; in.</p>
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