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		By: Raphael Dingli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raphael Dingli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 04:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2692002&quot;&gt;TL&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi TL.  This should have been posted as a reply to Matthew S&#039;s response to me time marked November 16, 2014 at 1:09 am. 

For some strange reason there is no opportunity to respond directly to him as the Reply button is hidden.  I am unsure if this is a glitch or an intentional situation. 

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - After a certain number of responses and counter-responses, the Reply function ceases. This has always been the case. It avoids having protracted discussions within a discussion, that detract from the main subject.] 
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I would like to tell Matthew that I am always ready to improve my analytical and reading skills as life is a journey and we never stop learning.  

The problem I have though is that I am unable do this unless I  receive a response to my earlier comments.  He may be able to teach me to be less muddled. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2692002">TL</a>.</p>
<p>Hi TL.  This should have been posted as a reply to Matthew S&#8217;s response to me time marked November 16, 2014 at 1:09 am. </p>
<p>For some strange reason there is no opportunity to respond directly to him as the Reply button is hidden.  I am unsure if this is a glitch or an intentional situation. </p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; After a certain number of responses and counter-responses, the Reply function ceases. This has always been the case. It avoids having protracted discussions within a discussion, that detract from the main subject.]<br />
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I would like to tell Matthew that I am always ready to improve my analytical and reading skills as life is a journey and we never stop learning.  </p>
<p>The problem I have though is that I am unable do this unless I  receive a response to my earlier comments.  He may be able to teach me to be less muddled. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Matthew S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2690335&quot;&gt;Matthew S&lt;/a&gt;.

I was going to reply to some of your comments but your thinking is so muddled, I barely know where to start.

Please improve your reading and analytical skills before reaching any more of your own conclusions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2690335">Matthew S</a>.</p>
<p>I was going to reply to some of your comments but your thinking is so muddled, I barely know where to start.</p>
<p>Please improve your reading and analytical skills before reaching any more of your own conclusions.</p>
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		By: Raphael Dingli		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raphael Dingli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2690335&quot;&gt;Matthew S&lt;/a&gt;.

Matthew, your first paragraph does make any sense to me. 

You state that “unless people deliberately choose to marry somebody different ….they marry people who are like them and look like them”.  

This statement is akin to saying “if a glass is not empty then it’s full”.  

Have you considered that people who are very different to each other marry because opposites attract?  

Your comment about illness or disorder being evidence of similarity and labelling it weird is to put it mildly offensive.  

You use statistics from the United States to suggest that it reflects reality across the globe. 

I would humbly suggest that the United States is not a culture, mostly led by reality TV, that most developed societies aspire to.  

You also assert that gay men in the US (it’s the US by the way not America – America is a continent which includes the US, Chile, Argentina etc) congregate around San Francisco because they do not want to mix with all those heterosexuals found everywhere else.  

Your comment implies that there are no heterosexuals in San Francisco.  I suggest that gay men and women congregate there because heterosexuals living there are more accepting of gays.  

Unity in diversity is not an advertisement – it may not have yet reached the rock – but it’s a reality where I live and in most of northern Europe. 

You state that at no point did you say that Labour politicians are home wreckers. Could you please enlighten me then to what this phrase means if not that “is there anyone in this administration who is not a home-wrecker?” 

Maybe it was not rhetorical but an actual question. I highly doubt it though. 

You also state that extra marital affairs are wrecking the country.  In the US (to pick a country you choose to back up your argument) Monica Lewinsky did not contribute to any ruining – and that story was repeated and repeated globally.  

The foibles of the previous French president were plastered all over the world press.  France is not any worse because of it.   

Here is some more research – one from the United States that may hopefully contribute to moving your blinkers, even slightly.  They are about children from gay marriages and about children from bi-racial unions.  

I have formed my own conclusions but will leave the readers to make theirs. 

http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/gender-society/same-sex-marriage-children-well-being-research-roundup
http://www.education.com/reference/article/interracial-marriages-biracial-children/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2690335">Matthew S</a>.</p>
<p>Matthew, your first paragraph does make any sense to me. </p>
<p>You state that “unless people deliberately choose to marry somebody different ….they marry people who are like them and look like them”.  </p>
<p>This statement is akin to saying “if a glass is not empty then it’s full”.  </p>
<p>Have you considered that people who are very different to each other marry because opposites attract?  </p>
<p>Your comment about illness or disorder being evidence of similarity and labelling it weird is to put it mildly offensive.  </p>
<p>You use statistics from the United States to suggest that it reflects reality across the globe. </p>
<p>I would humbly suggest that the United States is not a culture, mostly led by reality TV, that most developed societies aspire to.  </p>
<p>You also assert that gay men in the US (it’s the US by the way not America – America is a continent which includes the US, Chile, Argentina etc) congregate around San Francisco because they do not want to mix with all those heterosexuals found everywhere else.  </p>
<p>Your comment implies that there are no heterosexuals in San Francisco.  I suggest that gay men and women congregate there because heterosexuals living there are more accepting of gays.  </p>
<p>Unity in diversity is not an advertisement – it may not have yet reached the rock – but it’s a reality where I live and in most of northern Europe. </p>
<p>You state that at no point did you say that Labour politicians are home wreckers. Could you please enlighten me then to what this phrase means if not that “is there anyone in this administration who is not a home-wrecker?” </p>
<p>Maybe it was not rhetorical but an actual question. I highly doubt it though. </p>
<p>You also state that extra marital affairs are wrecking the country.  In the US (to pick a country you choose to back up your argument) Monica Lewinsky did not contribute to any ruining – and that story was repeated and repeated globally.  </p>
<p>The foibles of the previous French president were plastered all over the world press.  France is not any worse because of it.   </p>
<p>Here is some more research – one from the United States that may hopefully contribute to moving your blinkers, even slightly.  They are about children from gay marriages and about children from bi-racial unions.  </p>
<p>I have formed my own conclusions but will leave the readers to make theirs. </p>
<p><a href="http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/gender-society/same-sex-marriage-children-well-being-research-roundup" rel="nofollow ugc">http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/gender-society/same-sex-marriage-children-well-being-research-roundup</a><br />
<a href="http://www.education.com/reference/article/interracial-marriages-biracial-children/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.education.com/reference/article/interracial-marriages-biracial-children/</a></p>
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		By: TL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something you want to get off your chest there, Matthew S?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something you want to get off your chest there, Matthew S?</p>
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		By: Matthew S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2688541&quot;&gt;Raphael Dingli&lt;/a&gt;.

I totally disagree.

Unless people deliberately choose to marry somebody different - no need to say why people marry up, some men deliberately marry down so as to make domination easier, others like to dominate a dumber woman, and some women don&#039;t care who they&#039;re marrying as long as he has lots of cash - they marry people who are like them and look like them.

When people who are very different marry each other, you just need to look more closely at things like sense of humour, and sometimes even at weird things like sharing the same illness or disorder, to notice the similarities.

Almost 60% of white Americans are getting married nowadays. Only about 35% of black Americans are doing so. Why, do you think? It&#039;s because black women can&#039;t find adequate black men to marry. Too many are in jail or have a poor education, and many black women would rather not get married than marry a white man.

More than 60% of college educated people get married in America but only about 45% who have a low education do so. Why? It&#039;s because the highly educated are marrying each other and having stable marriages while the lower educated have problems finding a stable partner.

Gay men in America like to congregate in San Francisco. Why? It&#039;s because they don&#039;t want to mix with all those heterosexuals found everywhere else.

Please remove your blinkers, Mr Dingli. This is real life, not a unity in diversity advertisement in which a mixed race couple, a gay couple and a transvestite live happily ever after in a complicated menage.

At no point did I say that only Labour politicians are home-wreckers, although a quick look at the numbers on either side of the house will give you a good idea of where most of the problems lie.

My whole point is not about how bad extra-marital affairs are (though there is that too) but how extra-marital affairs are screwing up the country. The previous administration is irrelevant in this context because it is not running the country. 

If these lowlifes want to wreck each other&#039;s lives, I frankly don&#039;t give a damn. It&#039;s the wrecking of innocent children&#039;s lives and the wrecking of the country which bothers me.

Yes, my message is political. That&#039;s the whole point.

Please look at the graph in this article for the American wedding rates I quoted.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21569433-americas-marriage-rate-falling-and-its-out-wedlock-birth-rate-soaring-fraying]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2688541">Raphael Dingli</a>.</p>
<p>I totally disagree.</p>
<p>Unless people deliberately choose to marry somebody different &#8211; no need to say why people marry up, some men deliberately marry down so as to make domination easier, others like to dominate a dumber woman, and some women don&#8217;t care who they&#8217;re marrying as long as he has lots of cash &#8211; they marry people who are like them and look like them.</p>
<p>When people who are very different marry each other, you just need to look more closely at things like sense of humour, and sometimes even at weird things like sharing the same illness or disorder, to notice the similarities.</p>
<p>Almost 60% of white Americans are getting married nowadays. Only about 35% of black Americans are doing so. Why, do you think? It&#8217;s because black women can&#8217;t find adequate black men to marry. Too many are in jail or have a poor education, and many black women would rather not get married than marry a white man.</p>
<p>More than 60% of college educated people get married in America but only about 45% who have a low education do so. Why? It&#8217;s because the highly educated are marrying each other and having stable marriages while the lower educated have problems finding a stable partner.</p>
<p>Gay men in America like to congregate in San Francisco. Why? It&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t want to mix with all those heterosexuals found everywhere else.</p>
<p>Please remove your blinkers, Mr Dingli. This is real life, not a unity in diversity advertisement in which a mixed race couple, a gay couple and a transvestite live happily ever after in a complicated menage.</p>
<p>At no point did I say that only Labour politicians are home-wreckers, although a quick look at the numbers on either side of the house will give you a good idea of where most of the problems lie.</p>
<p>My whole point is not about how bad extra-marital affairs are (though there is that too) but how extra-marital affairs are screwing up the country. The previous administration is irrelevant in this context because it is not running the country. </p>
<p>If these lowlifes want to wreck each other&#8217;s lives, I frankly don&#8217;t give a damn. It&#8217;s the wrecking of innocent children&#8217;s lives and the wrecking of the country which bothers me.</p>
<p>Yes, my message is political. That&#8217;s the whole point.</p>
<p>Please look at the graph in this article for the American wedding rates I quoted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21569433-americas-marriage-rate-falling-and-its-out-wedlock-birth-rate-soaring-fraying" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21569433-americas-marriage-rate-falling-and-its-out-wedlock-birth-rate-soaring-fraying</a></p>
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		By: dutchie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dutchie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2689227&quot;&gt;Persil&lt;/a&gt;.

Nobody &quot;steals&quot; anyone from anybody. Why do some people automatically blame the &quot;bad woman&quot;? 

You are obviously referring to a case of a married man and a female lover.

The man has his own brain to decide with unless he&#039;s thinking with the wrong head. 

I think the fault is usually with the weak male following his hormones.

Having said that,  if one is interested in an extra marital affair,  s/he should talk about it with their spouse way before anything happens. Better still, discuss it before marriage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/11/guest-post-in-their-effort-to-seem-liberal-and-progressive-people-have-forgotten-what-an-extra-marital-affair-is-really-like/#comment-2689227">Persil</a>.</p>
<p>Nobody &#8220;steals&#8221; anyone from anybody. Why do some people automatically blame the &#8220;bad woman&#8221;? </p>
<p>You are obviously referring to a case of a married man and a female lover.</p>
<p>The man has his own brain to decide with unless he&#8217;s thinking with the wrong head. </p>
<p>I think the fault is usually with the weak male following his hormones.</p>
<p>Having said that,  if one is interested in an extra marital affair,  s/he should talk about it with their spouse way before anything happens. Better still, discuss it before marriage.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[TO TEST A MAN’S CHARACTER, GIVE HIM POWER.

Now you can see the result.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO TEST A MAN’S CHARACTER, GIVE HIM POWER.</p>
<p>Now you can see the result.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is this going to be the downfall of the Labour government, living the high life with their family, friends and lovers and forgetting what they got elected for?

They promised to tackle &#039;injustices&#039; done throughout the years of PN administration. Moderate supporters don&#039;t really care about all this gossip as long as they get what they have voted for. 

The trouble will begin if they don&#039;t. There is this Grievance Unit pending with  cases still on hold. Time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this going to be the downfall of the Labour government, living the high life with their family, friends and lovers and forgetting what they got elected for?</p>
<p>They promised to tackle &#8216;injustices&#8217; done throughout the years of PN administration. Moderate supporters don&#8217;t really care about all this gossip as long as they get what they have voted for. </p>
<p>The trouble will begin if they don&#8217;t. There is this Grievance Unit pending with  cases still on hold. Time will tell.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[birds of a feather flock together (within the Labour party).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>birds of a feather flock together (within the Labour party).</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Persil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 06:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These bad women not only steal away a husband but also a father.

If only they realize the harm they inflict on the family, they will think twice before they act.

But what matters for them is sex, money and status.

But what status can she achieve? I look down on these women.

My advice to spouses is do not give up. Go to court even if it means four or five years.

How can one get separation in just three weeks? Not enough time for reflection. Mediation in the family court is a joke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bad women not only steal away a husband but also a father.</p>
<p>If only they realize the harm they inflict on the family, they will think twice before they act.</p>
<p>But what matters for them is sex, money and status.</p>
<p>But what status can she achieve? I look down on these women.</p>
<p>My advice to spouses is do not give up. Go to court even if it means four or five years.</p>
<p>How can one get separation in just three weeks? Not enough time for reflection. Mediation in the family court is a joke.</p>
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