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		By: rjc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rjc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2015 07:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

A consortium supposedly building a new power station cannot find €30 million for the up-front payment that should have been effected in March 2014? Ever heard of &#039;investment&#039; by installments? Professor Scicluna might call this Mintoffeconomics, meaning utter rubbish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>A consortium supposedly building a new power station cannot find €30 million for the up-front payment that should have been effected in March 2014? Ever heard of &#8216;investment&#8217; by installments? Professor Scicluna might call this Mintoffeconomics, meaning utter rubbish.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2945109&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a mystery which dwarfs anything in the last fifty years, including Karin Grech. 

Why was the project never completed by the previous administration? Was it just a sop? Did they really mean to complete it? If they did, who fucked up? 

Why didn&#039;t the Labour government clean up the mess if there was one? Do they intend to complete the project? 

Who pays for what? Who gets paid for what? Who&#039;s working on it? Is it still the same consortium? 

I seem to detect a lot of turning of blind eyes and collusion between opposing parties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2945109">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a mystery which dwarfs anything in the last fifty years, including Karin Grech. </p>
<p>Why was the project never completed by the previous administration? Was it just a sop? Did they really mean to complete it? If they did, who fucked up? </p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t the Labour government clean up the mess if there was one? Do they intend to complete the project? </p>
<p>Who pays for what? Who gets paid for what? Who&#8217;s working on it? Is it still the same consortium? </p>
<p>I seem to detect a lot of turning of blind eyes and collusion between opposing parties.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2944278&quot;&gt;Marvel&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the other unfolding mystery, it was reported at one point the Chinese want a piece of that, which will be where our autonomy ends. 

Strangely lost in translation in the press. 

These people are real and proper traitors, and that&#039;s statement of fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2944278">Marvel</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the other unfolding mystery, it was reported at one point the Chinese want a piece of that, which will be where our autonomy ends. </p>
<p>Strangely lost in translation in the press. </p>
<p>These people are real and proper traitors, and that&#8217;s statement of fact.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

And who said those 30 million were to be paid in instalments? 

The pre-electoral spiel was a lump payment to make up for the reduction in bills. 

Or is this another case of Muscat being misunderstood? 

Hilarious, this con-artist mentions a &#039;project&#039;, but never commits to a written document showing dates and deadlines. 

Wasn&#039;t Mizzi supposed to publish a milestone schedule? 

I&#039;m so sick and tired of this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>And who said those 30 million were to be paid in instalments? </p>
<p>The pre-electoral spiel was a lump payment to make up for the reduction in bills. </p>
<p>Or is this another case of Muscat being misunderstood? </p>
<p>Hilarious, this con-artist mentions a &#8216;project&#8217;, but never commits to a written document showing dates and deadlines. </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Mizzi supposed to publish a milestone schedule? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sick and tired of this.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

Anthony, you will explain why no-one from Electrogas was with the PM in Azerbaijan.

You will also explain how you think it possible Electrogas chooses to &#039;pay&#039; rent when the power station is still a good three years away, if it ever happens. 

You will also explain why Mizzi keeps moving dates, publishes memos of understanding which clearly show the one sided state of affairs, and refuses to provide any detail to the consortium&#039;s commitments. 

You will, finally, please state whether in your view, these entrepreneurs have any idea how to deliver what they supposedly should. 

All I see is an exchange of interests, signatures and rushed permits elsewhere. All at our expense. 

I hope you realise that&#039;s your land in question there. What with local banks and their obsession with collateral in the form of acres.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>Anthony, you will explain why no-one from Electrogas was with the PM in Azerbaijan.</p>
<p>You will also explain how you think it possible Electrogas chooses to &#8216;pay&#8217; rent when the power station is still a good three years away, if it ever happens. </p>
<p>You will also explain why Mizzi keeps moving dates, publishes memos of understanding which clearly show the one sided state of affairs, and refuses to provide any detail to the consortium&#8217;s commitments. </p>
<p>You will, finally, please state whether in your view, these entrepreneurs have any idea how to deliver what they supposedly should. </p>
<p>All I see is an exchange of interests, signatures and rushed permits elsewhere. All at our expense. </p>
<p>I hope you realise that&#8217;s your land in question there. What with local banks and their obsession with collateral in the form of acres.</p>
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		By: chico		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s for free, I want it too, so it&#039;s value/price has already gone up. That&#039;s how things work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s for free, I want it too, so it&#8217;s value/price has already gone up. That&#8217;s how things work.</p>
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		By: Evarist Saliba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evarist Saliba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not an estate agent, but Dom Mintoff was given a handsome sum as compensation for his Gharix in the same area.

Incidentally, does land used for industrial purposes  lose its value?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>I am not an estate agent, but Dom Mintoff was given a handsome sum as compensation for his Gharix in the same area.</p>
<p>Incidentally, does land used for industrial purposes  lose its value?</p>
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		By: RB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

I see. Dom Mintoff gets awarded close to a million euros in cash, during Alfred Sant&#039;s stint in government, and Labour supporters think it&#039;s only fair enough &quot;because his property/land is worth it&quot;. 

Then the same supporters think it&#039;s okay for the same land to be given for free to Gasan, Fenech et al &quot;because it has no value&quot;.  

As always, it&#039;s us taxpayers who get stiffed. Do you pay taxes, Mr Farrugia?

]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>I see. Dom Mintoff gets awarded close to a million euros in cash, during Alfred Sant&#8217;s stint in government, and Labour supporters think it&#8217;s only fair enough &#8220;because his property/land is worth it&#8221;. </p>
<p>Then the same supporters think it&#8217;s okay for the same land to be given for free to Gasan, Fenech et al &#8220;because it has no value&#8221;.  </p>
<p>As always, it&#8217;s us taxpayers who get stiffed. Do you pay taxes, Mr Farrugia?</p>
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		By: Marvel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marvel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When is the &#039;Interconnector&#039; going to be commissioned? It should have been up and running a year ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is the &#8216;Interconnector&#8217; going to be commissioned? It should have been up and running a year ago.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 23:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803&quot;&gt;Anthony Farrugia&lt;/a&gt;.

Spoken by the inhabitant of a 300 square kilometre microstate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2014/12/is-electrogas-still-using-the-land-for-free-or-is-it-now-paying-a-fair-price-for-rent/#comment-2942803">Anthony Farrugia</a>.</p>
<p>Spoken by the inhabitant of a 300 square kilometre microstate.</p>
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