@ Liberal
I am not aware of anyone trying to “shut you up” only myself trying to keep you on track and raising only relevant points no matter If you suppose that they are inconvenient when they aren’t..

Drug cartel killings are motivated to protect their BUSINESS. Whether they are practising Catholics or not, is purely coincidental.

Islamic terrorism is fuelled in mosques by some extremist Imam’s instigating violence by quoting from the Quran. You are wrong to conclude that these are disaffected youths. Some terrorists abandon their careers, profession to join a terrorist training camp.

[Daphne – Yes, because they are disaffected. Careers and professions? I see no neurosurgeons going off to Syria to train for IS. They are mainly individuals from the lower rungs of society, with fragmented family backgrounds and dull jobs or no job at all. You should fine-tune your definition of business. For the leaders of these people, this IS their business. It’s a major source of money and power. Even the IRA ran businesses (illicit) in smuggled cigarettes and illegal drugs. You start out by using this to fund your terror, and then it becomes an end in itself.]

As I said in one of my earliest posts after the Charlie shooting, this is going to be one subject that you will stand your ground no matter what the counter arguments are. I’m not saying you must agree with my views, but unfortunately you are making incongruous and sometimes illogical arguments in an attempt to justify your viewpoint.

[Daphne – My arguments are logical, Freedom5. It is those who call for oppression to guarantee freedom who are inconsistent and illogical, and worse, do not understand the inherent danger in their wishes. The elimination of Muslims to solve the real or perceived problems caused by a few Muslims is the Hitlerian view.]

There is no similarity between the Vatican of today and the current Al Qaeda style terrorism.

The Holy Kuran is a unifying element common to all prominent Muslim sectarian divisions. Not one of those divisions has renounced the criiminal terrorism of any one of the “breakaway groups” practicing Holy Jihad against all infidels simply because they are “unbelievers”.

The absence of any controlling central administrative structure is irrelevant. All the prominent separate units share a common rejection of the UN Charter of Fundamental Universal Human Rights regarding the freedom to choose (and therefore to change) one’s religion, to practice the chosen religion openly and without being subjected to cruel degrading punishments.

Please let us stop defending the indefensible under the excuse that Muslim terrorism in the name of Allah is widespread throughout an Islam that does not have a central administration like a Vatican that, in any case, is viified by those who somehow, one way or another, find excuses for Moslem terrorism.

This is all mainstream swill, wormfood.

But one error I made was to portray the conflict in Syria as a ‘civil war’. In fact it is not a civil war but a foreign invasion since the IS fighters are foreigners. That is why the traditional Syrian opposition and the vast majority of Syrians have been siding with Assad.

These supposedly Islamic extremist are not religious at all, and this is a known fact. They are criminals on a rampage, looting oil, trafficking drugs and young girls, with psychopathic bosses eager for power and wealth. All in the name of Allah.

You say the Western powers are idiots and hypocrites. I’d replace the word ‘powers’ with ‘puppets’.

It has long been exposed by real investigative journalists that most of the conflicts across the world, from Ukraine to Libya and Nigeria are linked inasmuch as funding and support are concerned. They are largely stage-managed. Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, or whatever name they’re given – you always find the same hands messing about, depending on sphere of interest, These are the usual Saudi suspects together with the global intelligence network, mainly CIA, Mossad, and British, French and Turkish intelligence.

False flags have become the order of the day – we’ve had numerous false flags in the US (the most ridiculously in-your-face and amateurish spectacle being the Sandy Hook hoax – it’s as obvious as it is incredible, once you investigate of course).

In short, it’s not about religion, it’s about wealth, power and control – not for an individual nation or group of nations, but for the global cabal that you believe does not exist.

Yes I did, dear Francis. But I won’t let any totalitarian shut me up because I raise an inconvenient point. Free speech and all that.

Not the same thing at all. The Imams have been falling over themselves.

Labour hasn’t, nor has it ever apologised. On the contrary, it sabotaged democracy and stole an election (2013), then proceeded to erect a statue to the most evil man ever to rule Malta.

@ “Liberal”

This post is about Saudi Arabia, hadn’t you noticed?

I’m not proposing the elimination of anyone. There are enough disaffected young men as you described them, at it.

As for the power-hungry older men, they’re usually called Mullahs and Imams. We rightly blamed the MLP for their numerous thugs. Why should the instigators be absolved and treated with kid gloves?

Because I don’t need an imam to know it’s not. Neither do you.

Hadn’t we better take a good look at ourselves?

Can you see our progressive liberals falling over each other to say that smoking pot is not in line with secular values because a good chunk of the trade funds terrorist activities?

Can you see our politicians and bankers falling over themselves to say that welcoming Saudi and Qatari money into our banks is not in line with our human rights teaching because a lot of it is used to fund imams who foment terrorism?