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		By: Gladio		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-3002301</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gladio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 23:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Church is duty bound to take a position on the referendum. The Sinodu Djocesan document Kultura - Socjeta;- Knisja in page 52 states the following:

Bħal kull ħidma favur il-ġustizzja, il-ħidma għall-ħarsien ta’ l-ambjent hija waħda li titlob ħafna kuraġġ u perseveranza. Il-Knisja ma għandha taqta’ qatt qalbha f’din il-ħidma anzi trid tkompli twieżen lil dawk kollha li qed jaħdmu biex il-ġenerazzjonijiet futuri jkollhom tama għall-ġejjieni tagħhom u ta’ wliedhom.

http://www.laikos.org/KulturaSocjetaKnisja.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church is duty bound to take a position on the referendum. The Sinodu Djocesan document Kultura &#8211; Socjeta;- Knisja in page 52 states the following:</p>
<p>Bħal kull ħidma favur il-ġustizzja, il-ħidma għall-ħarsien ta’ l-ambjent hija waħda li titlob ħafna kuraġġ u perseveranza. Il-Knisja ma għandha taqta’ qatt qalbha f’din il-ħidma anzi trid tkompli twieżen lil dawk kollha li qed jaħdmu biex il-ġenerazzjonijiet futuri jkollhom tama għall-ġejjieni tagħhom u ta’ wliedhom.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.laikos.org/KulturaSocjetaKnisja.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.laikos.org/KulturaSocjetaKnisja.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Spock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999425&quot;&gt;Tom Double Thumb&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999425">Tom Double Thumb</a>.</p>
<p>Well said .</p>
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		By: Lizz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999217&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999217">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Amen to that.</p>
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		By: Jack Bean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Bean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999248&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

I suppose one can always use religion to justify one&#039;s argument.

The hunting lobby (and not only) can quote the Bible that God made man the master of creation: &#039;God blessed them and said to them, &quot;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and every living thing that moves upon the earth.&quot; (Gen. I: 28

Environmentalists and their liberal bedfellows will argue that the above is not absolute: earth domination has to be carried out responsibly. This too is part of the Church&#039;s official social teaching.

Taking such issues from a narrowly religious perspective will lead you nowhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999248">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose one can always use religion to justify one&#8217;s argument.</p>
<p>The hunting lobby (and not only) can quote the Bible that God made man the master of creation: &#8216;God blessed them and said to them, &#8220;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and every living thing that moves upon the earth.&#8221; (Gen. I: 28</p>
<p>Environmentalists and their liberal bedfellows will argue that the above is not absolute: earth domination has to be carried out responsibly. This too is part of the Church&#8217;s official social teaching.</p>
<p>Taking such issues from a narrowly religious perspective will lead you nowhere.</p>
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		By: Tom Double Thumb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Double Thumb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999251&quot;&gt;M.Misud&lt;/a&gt;.

It seems that with some people the Roman Catholic Church is the only organization which does not and should not have the right of freedom of expression. 

Some still advocate Mintoff&#039;s declaration that it should restrict itself to the sacristy.

The Roman Catholic Church and its individual members have as much freedom of expression as any other organization or individual. If anybody wants to deny that freedom because of.the influence the Church has on a section of the population, then the same should apply to the head of state, political party leaders, workers unions, etc.

I was in Romania during the recent presidential election and  heard priests advising their flocks to vote for the candidates who held Christian values. 

The reference was obvious, even to an outsider like me. There were no protests, no attempt to push the Church back into the sacristy. I could not help wondering what would have happened if this was done in Malta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999251">M.Misud</a>.</p>
<p>It seems that with some people the Roman Catholic Church is the only organization which does not and should not have the right of freedom of expression. </p>
<p>Some still advocate Mintoff&#8217;s declaration that it should restrict itself to the sacristy.</p>
<p>The Roman Catholic Church and its individual members have as much freedom of expression as any other organization or individual. If anybody wants to deny that freedom because of.the influence the Church has on a section of the population, then the same should apply to the head of state, political party leaders, workers unions, etc.</p>
<p>I was in Romania during the recent presidential election and  heard priests advising their flocks to vote for the candidates who held Christian values. </p>
<p>The reference was obvious, even to an outsider like me. There were no protests, no attempt to push the Church back into the sacristy. I could not help wondering what would have happened if this was done in Malta.</p>
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		By: canon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[canon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still think that Simon Busuttil rushed when he declared his support to the spring hunting derogation.  

The hunters have a lot of questions to answer about their relation with the Labour Party before and after the general election. 

If there were no satisfactory answers from the hunters, Busuttil shouldn&#039;t have supported them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think that Simon Busuttil rushed when he declared his support to the spring hunting derogation.  </p>
<p>The hunters have a lot of questions to answer about their relation with the Labour Party before and after the general election. </p>
<p>If there were no satisfactory answers from the hunters, Busuttil shouldn&#8217;t have supported them.</p>
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		By: gn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ghaliex in-nies m&#039;humiex kapaci jiddistingwixxu kacca fir-rebbiegha minn kaxxa fil-harifa?

Hadd ma qalilhom lill-kaccaturi li se tinqatalhom fil-harifa. Min se jivvota le, se jkun qed jivvota biex jghati cans lill-ghasafar jitkattru. Dak kollox.

X&#039;injoranza ta&#039; nies hawn f&#039;Malta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ghaliex in-nies m&#8217;humiex kapaci jiddistingwixxu kacca fir-rebbiegha minn kaxxa fil-harifa?</p>
<p>Hadd ma qalilhom lill-kaccaturi li se tinqatalhom fil-harifa. Min se jivvota le, se jkun qed jivvota biex jghati cans lill-ghasafar jitkattru. Dak kollox.</p>
<p>X&#8217;injoranza ta&#8217; nies hawn f&#8217;Malta.</p>
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		By: Jack Bean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Bean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999217&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I hope his statement is taken to heart.&quot; No, it won&#039;t, unfortunately. 

The Church has been painted in so dark colours by all and sundry (not least by the Lejber party and its front organisations) that very few will &#039;take it to heart&#039;, even if the majority still attend Sunday Mass.

Again unfortunately, to a large extent, the Church is as relevant as Franco Debono or JPO(S) -- with or without apology for the comparison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999217">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope his statement is taken to heart.&#8221; No, it won&#8217;t, unfortunately. </p>
<p>The Church has been painted in so dark colours by all and sundry (not least by the Lejber party and its front organisations) that very few will &#8216;take it to heart&#8217;, even if the majority still attend Sunday Mass.</p>
<p>Again unfortunately, to a large extent, the Church is as relevant as Franco Debono or JPO(S) &#8212; with or without apology for the comparison.</p>
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		By: Matthew S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999248&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Put it down to sophistry and mental acrobatics.

Everybody wants to not take a position while taking one at the same time.

You do what you have to do to try and remain popular with everyone, I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/01/well-theres-another-no-vote-from-charles-scicluna/#comment-2999248">Chris</a>.</p>
<p>Put it down to sophistry and mental acrobatics.</p>
<p>Everybody wants to not take a position while taking one at the same time.</p>
<p>You do what you have to do to try and remain popular with everyone, I guess.</p>
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		By: M.Misud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.Misud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Bishop Scicluna has been misquoted here. I heard him say that he has not discussed the matter with Bishop Mario Grech, he does not think the church will take a position, but that he himself is against spring hunting.

&lt;strong&gt;[Daphne - That is exactly what the report says.]&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bishop Scicluna has been misquoted here. I heard him say that he has not discussed the matter with Bishop Mario Grech, he does not think the church will take a position, but that he himself is against spring hunting.</p>
<p><strong>[Daphne &#8211; That is exactly what the report says.]</strong></p>
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