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		By: SAS		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3123211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 06:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024273&quot;&gt;Manuel&lt;/a&gt;.

Turkey&#039;s government is elected and has broad support from the population.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024273">Manuel</a>.</p>
<p>Turkey&#8217;s government is elected and has broad support from the population.</p>
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		By: SAS		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3123210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 05:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3023882&quot;&gt;ken il malti&lt;/a&gt;.

Because Turkish buses represent excellent value for money. They are reasonably priced and very modern.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3023882">ken il malti</a>.</p>
<p>Because Turkish buses represent excellent value for money. They are reasonably priced and very modern.</p>
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		By: Andrew Holland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Holland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3023894&quot;&gt;Mila&lt;/a&gt;.

This was never anything to do with Mizzi, it was a purely commercial decision taken by a privately owned company which felt that this was the most appropriate bus for Malta&#039;s needs.  

In any case, how does this differ from Arriva&#039;s 2011 order of King Long buses?  Without doubt the largest RHD order they&#039;ve had also, King Long is not (still yet) successful in RHD markets and has got absolutely nowhere in the British bus market having only sold a handful of buses there, Arriva also had no prior experience with King Long and has not placed any further orders with them since (which I think tells you everything you need to know about what Arriva thought of those buses) and clearly ordered them out of necessity (the fact that a shareholder at the time was the sole importer of King Long clearly skewed the decision making process).  

The Otokars are level above the King Longs in terms of product quality as if you&#039;ve actually travelled on one by now, you&#039;ll have realised.  So, one could say that PN are as much responsible for the purchase of King Longs as Labour are for the Otokars. I&#039;m not a Labour supporter (I&#039;m not Maltese therefore unable to vote here and thus politically agnostic) but separate politics from commercial decisions please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3023894">Mila</a>.</p>
<p>This was never anything to do with Mizzi, it was a purely commercial decision taken by a privately owned company which felt that this was the most appropriate bus for Malta&#8217;s needs.  </p>
<p>In any case, how does this differ from Arriva&#8217;s 2011 order of King Long buses?  Without doubt the largest RHD order they&#8217;ve had also, King Long is not (still yet) successful in RHD markets and has got absolutely nowhere in the British bus market having only sold a handful of buses there, Arriva also had no prior experience with King Long and has not placed any further orders with them since (which I think tells you everything you need to know about what Arriva thought of those buses) and clearly ordered them out of necessity (the fact that a shareholder at the time was the sole importer of King Long clearly skewed the decision making process).  </p>
<p>The Otokars are level above the King Longs in terms of product quality as if you&#8217;ve actually travelled on one by now, you&#8217;ll have realised.  So, one could say that PN are as much responsible for the purchase of King Longs as Labour are for the Otokars. I&#8217;m not a Labour supporter (I&#8217;m not Maltese therefore unable to vote here and thus politically agnostic) but separate politics from commercial decisions please.</p>
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		By: H. Meilak		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H. Meilak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At least Otokar is one of the best bus manufacturers in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Otokar is one of the best bus manufacturers in the world.</p>
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		By: Gahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The fleet will be delivered to the island before the end of 2015”


http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20141220/local/update-3-new-public-transport-provider-to-take-over-bus-service-on-january-8.548966

&quot;The company is expected to bring over 142 new buses by summer but will initially hire a number of buses to run the service”.

Can you imagine Austin Gatt giving these kind of target dates:&quot;by summer 2015” and  &quot;before the end of 2015”?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fleet will be delivered to the island before the end of 2015”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20141220/local/update-3-new-public-transport-provider-to-take-over-bus-service-on-january-8.548966" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20141220/local/update-3-new-public-transport-provider-to-take-over-bus-service-on-january-8.548966</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The company is expected to bring over 142 new buses by summer but will initially hire a number of buses to run the service”.</p>
<p>Can you imagine Austin Gatt giving these kind of target dates:&#8221;by summer 2015” and  &#8220;before the end of 2015”?</p>
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		By: Watcher of lies		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Watcher of lies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 04:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just cannot see any diffrrence between Arriva and de Leon, except for my increased share of tax for the triple subsidy.

Sometimes I feel like being at the bottom scale of the political-economic food chain: working hard while everyone is trying to eat me alive, from the government to the plasterer. 

Seems my share of the GDP is very meaty, and good and nourishing meat at that. 

Joe Mizzi is at the top region of this food chain and he has bitten me hard to feed himself and the Spanish Lion he has befriended.

Ouch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just cannot see any diffrrence between Arriva and de Leon, except for my increased share of tax for the triple subsidy.</p>
<p>Sometimes I feel like being at the bottom scale of the political-economic food chain: working hard while everyone is trying to eat me alive, from the government to the plasterer. </p>
<p>Seems my share of the GDP is very meaty, and good and nourishing meat at that. </p>
<p>Joe Mizzi is at the top region of this food chain and he has bitten me hard to feed himself and the Spanish Lion he has befriended.</p>
<p>Ouch.</p>
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		By: pirellu		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024545</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pirellu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 02:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Issa immur niehu kebab wara lejl Paceville fuqhom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Issa immur niehu kebab wara lejl Paceville fuqhom.</p>
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		By: Manuel		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manuel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 22:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3023882&quot;&gt;ken il malti&lt;/a&gt;.

Because they have certain affinity with dictators and oppressors.]]></description>
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<p>Because they have certain affinity with dictators and oppressors.</p>
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		By: Frans Cassar		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frans Cassar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was under the impression that the tender stipulated that the bus should have a euro 5 engine like Arriva had not 6 euro engine as the Turkish manufacturer said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that the tender stipulated that the bus should have a euro 5 engine like Arriva had not 6 euro engine as the Turkish manufacturer said.</p>
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		By: ciccio		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/our-turkish-buses/#comment-3024206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ciccio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the overhead panels of the airconditioning system on these Otakar buses leak water like the other buses imported by Traffic Minister Joe Mizzi, then it looks like Malta is going to have its own Turkish baths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the overhead panels of the airconditioning system on these Otakar buses leak water like the other buses imported by Traffic Minister Joe Mizzi, then it looks like Malta is going to have its own Turkish baths.</p>
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