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	Comments on: The Chamber of Architects and Civil Engineers is weakening its own position against the market location	</title>
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	<description>Daphne Caruana Galizia is a journalist working in Malta.</description>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 11:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/the-chamber-of-architects-and-civil-engineers-should-not-allow-itself-to-be-used/#comment-3021264&quot;&gt;Built Environment&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely spot on. 

Even because the architecture is missing as much as any expertise with structure. 

For all the periti and entrepreneurs out there, we still haven&#039;t managed any decent grade of reinforced concrete. 

One wonders what happens to Sliema front in ten years&#039; time. Keep those tower cranes, we&#039;ll need them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/the-chamber-of-architects-and-civil-engineers-should-not-allow-itself-to-be-used/#comment-3021264">Built Environment</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely spot on. </p>
<p>Even because the architecture is missing as much as any expertise with structure. </p>
<p>For all the periti and entrepreneurs out there, we still haven&#8217;t managed any decent grade of reinforced concrete. </p>
<p>One wonders what happens to Sliema front in ten years&#8217; time. Keep those tower cranes, we&#8217;ll need them.</p>
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		By: A&#38;CE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A&#38;CE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A very sad day for the Chamber.  I have no problem if the president or any chamber official is a political activist PROVIDED that narrow party politics and interests are kept out of the Chamber. 

Regretfully the Chamber president has allowed it to be used to further a political agenda, namely to ensure government decision on the market’s location is not reversed.   

This political agenda undermines the integrity of an outstanding architectural creation and therefore the Chamber president went against the very raison d’etre of the Chamber.   

Instead of fighting for good architecture and good design, the Chamber is providing justification for its disruption.  

I have not paid my membership fee for a very long time and the way the Chamber is going it seems I never will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very sad day for the Chamber.  I have no problem if the president or any chamber official is a political activist PROVIDED that narrow party politics and interests are kept out of the Chamber. </p>
<p>Regretfully the Chamber president has allowed it to be used to further a political agenda, namely to ensure government decision on the market’s location is not reversed.   </p>
<p>This political agenda undermines the integrity of an outstanding architectural creation and therefore the Chamber president went against the very raison d’etre of the Chamber.   </p>
<p>Instead of fighting for good architecture and good design, the Chamber is providing justification for its disruption.  </p>
<p>I have not paid my membership fee for a very long time and the way the Chamber is going it seems I never will.</p>
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		By: Gahan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2015 04:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can anyone tell me who ever saw a market in Europe with uniform “standard&quot; stalls?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me who ever saw a market in Europe with uniform “standard&#8221; stalls?</p>
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		By: Built Environment		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Built Environment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the Kamra tal-Periti just wanted to join the bandwagon, &quot;u mhux xorta,&quot; and get some publicity that it desperately needs. 

There are way more important issues that the Chamber should be tackling, both within the built environment industry and on a national level, for example: 

Such as the introduction of the new Architect-Perit &#038; Civil-Engineer-Perit acts into Maltese law.

The Built Environment Facility academic reform at the University of Malta, from just the-jack-of-all-trades &quot;Perit&quot; into a division of either just an architect or just a civil engineer.

MEPA&#039;s reform, MEPA&#039;s agenda regarding legalisation of illegal development.

Public statements made by Sandro Chetcuti, and alike.

Changing the ideology that the built environment and its development is not supposed to be controlled by the political order, but by spatial planners, architects, urbanists, technocrats.

Until such issues are tackled, I guess the Chamber will be used like a &quot;kazin tal-banda,&quot; in your local village, with its members using it simply as a stepping stone to higher political and social places and further contacts. 

Which is a sad story indeed as talent is being lost everyday with the way architecture governance is ran in this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Kamra tal-Periti just wanted to join the bandwagon, &#8220;u mhux xorta,&#8221; and get some publicity that it desperately needs. </p>
<p>There are way more important issues that the Chamber should be tackling, both within the built environment industry and on a national level, for example: </p>
<p>Such as the introduction of the new Architect-Perit &amp; Civil-Engineer-Perit acts into Maltese law.</p>
<p>The Built Environment Facility academic reform at the University of Malta, from just the-jack-of-all-trades &#8220;Perit&#8221; into a division of either just an architect or just a civil engineer.</p>
<p>MEPA&#8217;s reform, MEPA&#8217;s agenda regarding legalisation of illegal development.</p>
<p>Public statements made by Sandro Chetcuti, and alike.</p>
<p>Changing the ideology that the built environment and its development is not supposed to be controlled by the political order, but by spatial planners, architects, urbanists, technocrats.</p>
<p>Until such issues are tackled, I guess the Chamber will be used like a &#8220;kazin tal-banda,&#8221; in your local village, with its members using it simply as a stepping stone to higher political and social places and further contacts. </p>
<p>Which is a sad story indeed as talent is being lost everyday with the way architecture governance is ran in this country.</p>
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		By: Rumplestiltskin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rumplestiltskin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/the-chamber-of-architects-and-civil-engineers-should-not-allow-itself-to-be-used/#comment-3019695&quot;&gt;Mark Vella&lt;/a&gt;.

There have been other architects who spoke out. However, Daphne is right.  

The Chamber should have urged its membership to stay out of the market stall design process until it received unequivocal assurances that the market would not be located next to the Piano masterpiece.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/02/the-chamber-of-architects-and-civil-engineers-should-not-allow-itself-to-be-used/#comment-3019695">Mark Vella</a>.</p>
<p>There have been other architects who spoke out. However, Daphne is right.  </p>
<p>The Chamber should have urged its membership to stay out of the market stall design process until it received unequivocal assurances that the market would not be located next to the Piano masterpiece.</p>
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		By: another paddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[another paddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After dishing out so many &#039;jobs for the boys&#039;, why can&#039;t Joseph find another 74 &quot;positions&quot; for these worthy individuals so making this discussion redundant?

I&#039;m sure they have huge input to make Valletta the City of Culture 2018.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After dishing out so many &#8216;jobs for the boys&#8217;, why can&#8217;t Joseph find another 74 &#8220;positions&#8221; for these worthy individuals so making this discussion redundant?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they have huge input to make Valletta the City of Culture 2018.</p>
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		By: bob-a-job		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bob-a-job]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are you going as Edward de Bono?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you going as Edward de Bono?</p>
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		By: verita		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[verita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The government should tell us once and for all if it agrees with the stalls by the new parliament.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government should tell us once and for all if it agrees with the stalls by the new parliament.</p>
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		By: H.P. Baxxter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.P. Baxxter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know which of the market stalls sells hats? I want six of them for the carnival party at Villa Francia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know which of the market stalls sells hats? I want six of them for the carnival party at Villa Francia.</p>
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		By: Don Camillo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Camillo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On this, the Kamra tal-Periti can be given a free stall from where they can sell their stupid egos for recognition.    Prosit kemm sirtu laghqa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this, the Kamra tal-Periti can be given a free stall from where they can sell their stupid egos for recognition.    Prosit kemm sirtu laghqa.</p>
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