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		By: joseph camilleri		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jien smajtha l-espressjoni &quot;neza minn sacerdot&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jien smajtha l-espressjoni &#8220;neza minn sacerdot&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 07:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No such thing as plain Maltese, I&#039;m afraid. It&#039;s all roughly cobbled together.

Maltese is particularly weak when it comes to religious terminology, which is why it borrows those of Islam (Ghid, Randan, Mulied, Alla and so on) and then runs into particular problems with stuff like the defrocking of priests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No such thing as plain Maltese, I&#8217;m afraid. It&#8217;s all roughly cobbled together.</p>
<p>Maltese is particularly weak when it comes to religious terminology, which is why it borrows those of Islam (Ghid, Randan, Mulied, Alla and so on) and then runs into particular problems with stuff like the defrocking of priests.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, in a process that took place over centuries but which ceased largely after the advent of widespread literacy.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in a process that took place over centuries but which ceased largely after the advent of widespread literacy.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quite to the contrary, I was raised to speak both English and Maltese (separately) by parents who speak Maltese to each other and to others, but who spoke English to my sisters and me until we learned it. My accent is strange to you but entirely normal among 1% of the population of Malta.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite to the contrary, I was raised to speak both English and Maltese (separately) by parents who speak Maltese to each other and to others, but who spoke English to my sisters and me until we learned it. My accent is strange to you but entirely normal among 1% of the population of Malta.</p>
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		By: Mark Bartolo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Bartolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[U min nezzaw? Xi hadd nezzaw ghax kieku kienu jiktbu neza. 

Did the bishop lend a helping hand? U nezzaw kompletament jew hallih mqar bil kalzetti?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U min nezzaw? Xi hadd nezzaw ghax kieku kienu jiktbu neza. </p>
<p>Did the bishop lend a helping hand? U nezzaw kompletament jew hallih mqar bil kalzetti?</p>
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		By: Rumplestiltskin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rumplestiltskin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/09/tvm-breaks-the-news-that-the-gozo-diocese-has-undressed-a-priest/#comment-3051451&quot;&gt;Daphne Caruana Galizia&lt;/a&gt;.

He would likely have included &#039;pirmli&#039; too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/09/tvm-breaks-the-news-that-the-gozo-diocese-has-undressed-a-priest/#comment-3051451">Daphne Caruana Galizia</a>.</p>
<p>He would likely have included &#8216;pirmli&#8217; too.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 08:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, exactly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, exactly.</p>
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		By: Tabatha_White		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tabatha_White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about that other priest in Gozo?

The one who&#039;s shacked up with his secretary?

When is he going to be sorted out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about that other priest in Gozo?</p>
<p>The one who&#8217;s shacked up with his secretary?</p>
<p>When is he going to be sorted out?</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My Maltese is pretty good, Mr Sammut. But it happens to be educated Maltese.

Nothing will persuade me to use the alternative, working-class version, which is being pushed as the official one.

It&#039;s alien to me.

All languages have different versions, but no country pushes the working-class version as official. To use a ready example to which most Maltese can relate, does David Cameron speak like Pat Butcher in Eastenders? No. Is Pat Butcher&#039;s way of speaking the official version of English? No.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Maltese is pretty good, Mr Sammut. But it happens to be educated Maltese.</p>
<p>Nothing will persuade me to use the alternative, working-class version, which is being pushed as the official one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s alien to me.</p>
<p>All languages have different versions, but no country pushes the working-class version as official. To use a ready example to which most Maltese can relate, does David Cameron speak like Pat Butcher in Eastenders? No. Is Pat Butcher&#8217;s way of speaking the official version of English? No.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/09/tvm-breaks-the-news-that-the-gozo-diocese-has-undressed-a-priest/#comment-3051448&quot;&gt;Ellsworth Hildebrand Oats&lt;/a&gt;.

We are both saying exactly the same thing.

&#039;Neza&#039; is perfectly correct because the verb is used in the same way as &#039;defrock&#039;, except in this case it would be an unfrocking rather than a defrocking, because it is voluntary and not imposed.

&#039;Gie mnezza minn sacerdot&#039; is, however, completely nonsensical. The fact that it has been used for years is neither here nor there. So has &#039;petlor&#039;. Had Guze Aquilina been alive today, he would no doubt have put that in the dictionary too.

There simply is not a term in Maltese for the defrocking of a priest - it is a concept that comes from an entirely alien language. And it is pointless trying to make one up. All good translators know that sometimes you just have to rewrite the sentence and the term so as to keep the meaning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2015/09/tvm-breaks-the-news-that-the-gozo-diocese-has-undressed-a-priest/#comment-3051448">Ellsworth Hildebrand Oats</a>.</p>
<p>We are both saying exactly the same thing.</p>
<p>&#8216;Neza&#8217; is perfectly correct because the verb is used in the same way as &#8216;defrock&#8217;, except in this case it would be an unfrocking rather than a defrocking, because it is voluntary and not imposed.</p>
<p>&#8216;Gie mnezza minn sacerdot&#8217; is, however, completely nonsensical. The fact that it has been used for years is neither here nor there. So has &#8216;petlor&#8217;. Had Guze Aquilina been alive today, he would no doubt have put that in the dictionary too.</p>
<p>There simply is not a term in Maltese for the defrocking of a priest &#8211; it is a concept that comes from an entirely alien language. And it is pointless trying to make one up. All good translators know that sometimes you just have to rewrite the sentence and the term so as to keep the meaning.</p>
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