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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110409&quot;&gt;callixtus&lt;/a&gt;.

As well as being a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe etc. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110409">callixtus</a>.</p>
<p>As well as being a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe etc. </p>
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		By: callixtus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[callixtus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110384&quot;&gt;Jozef&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re getting your mathematics in a twist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110384">Jozef</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re getting your mathematics in a twist.</p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110295&quot;&gt;Daphne Caruana Galizia&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you just managed with each sentence, to invert the social, cultural, material and political innovation coming out of the place. 

There&#039;s no product design without a social pact or elementary means of production left plausible. That&#039;s not good design. 

To render Italy legible then, one first rewinds to when they were doing first what others struggle with today; a political class detached and incapable of reading an electorate, public opinion subdued to established pontification preaching contradictory virtue, and finally, a degenerate vulgarity pervading everything. 

The 90&#039;s. 

It was D&#039;Alema who warned Socialist International in 1994 that the third way as proposed by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair had serious lacunae with culture and its object. 

That it was just a big fat lie if culture be reduced to mere appropriation of the mores of polite society, thinking this enough to influence the next wave of unemployables. 

Nothing to love, more of a burden. 










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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110295">Daphne Caruana Galizia</a>.</p>
<p>I think you just managed with each sentence, to invert the social, cultural, material and political innovation coming out of the place. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no product design without a social pact or elementary means of production left plausible. That&#8217;s not good design. </p>
<p>To render Italy legible then, one first rewinds to when they were doing first what others struggle with today; a political class detached and incapable of reading an electorate, public opinion subdued to established pontification preaching contradictory virtue, and finally, a degenerate vulgarity pervading everything. </p>
<p>The 90&#8217;s. </p>
<p>It was D&#8217;Alema who warned Socialist International in 1994 that the third way as proposed by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair had serious lacunae with culture and its object. </p>
<p>That it was just a big fat lie if culture be reduced to mere appropriation of the mores of polite society, thinking this enough to influence the next wave of unemployables. </p>
<p>Nothing to love, more of a burden. </p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110270&quot;&gt;kev&lt;/a&gt;.

Those banks cannot fail due bad debts accumulated after &#039;08, definitely not with Deutsche Bank on a funeral pyre of derivatives and an auto industry scrapping cars in secret by the thousands. 







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<p>Those banks cannot fail due bad debts accumulated after &#8217;08, definitely not with Deutsche Bank on a funeral pyre of derivatives and an auto industry scrapping cars in secret by the thousands. </p>
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		By: Jozef		</title>
		<link>https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wrong.  By your reasoning, the 65% No vote of Calabria&#039;s 47% turnout would have to be lower or equal to the average No score in the north with a higher turnout to get to the 60% nationwide. 

The only correlation that can be made is that the No vote scored higher where turnout was low. It&#039;s the PD in the South that&#039;s to blame. When he turned the referendum into a vote of confidence, internal opposition opted not to vote, because of issues with the clauses proposed. 

How you attribute the result to organised crime is your conclusion. Daphne never said that anyway.  

The PD in the south of Italy is an older electorate. The young ones are turning to Cinquestelle. Sicily would have lost considerable autonomy, along with Aosta and Bolzano, in the chapter dealing with senate reform and the CNEL. 

I&#039;m never angry. 







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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.  By your reasoning, the 65% No vote of Calabria&#8217;s 47% turnout would have to be lower or equal to the average No score in the north with a higher turnout to get to the 60% nationwide. </p>
<p>The only correlation that can be made is that the No vote scored higher where turnout was low. It&#8217;s the PD in the South that&#8217;s to blame. When he turned the referendum into a vote of confidence, internal opposition opted not to vote, because of issues with the clauses proposed. </p>
<p>How you attribute the result to organised crime is your conclusion. Daphne never said that anyway.  </p>
<p>The PD in the south of Italy is an older electorate. The young ones are turning to Cinquestelle. Sicily would have lost considerable autonomy, along with Aosta and Bolzano, in the chapter dealing with senate reform and the CNEL. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m never angry. </p>
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		By: callixtus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[callixtus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Organised crime does not exist in a vacuum. It usually infiltrates politics, justice and police. We in Malta should know that. One particular carefully disguised criminal organisation has just taken over the Maltese State and its institutions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organised crime does not exist in a vacuum. It usually infiltrates politics, justice and police. We in Malta should know that. One particular carefully disguised criminal organisation has just taken over the Maltese State and its institutions.</p>
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		By: callixtus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[callixtus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2016/12/italys-real-problem-isnt-populism-organised-crime/#comment-3110287&quot;&gt;torquemada&lt;/a&gt;.

Dictators and strong, autocratic governments are necessarily tough on crime. They just target criminals selectively. We have ample evidence of that in Malta.
For all the problems the Italian democracy has, it is infinitely better-off than under the jackboots of Mussolini.]]></description>
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<p>Dictators and strong, autocratic governments are necessarily tough on crime. They just target criminals selectively. We have ample evidence of that in Malta.<br />
For all the problems the Italian democracy has, it is infinitely better-off than under the jackboots of Mussolini.</p>
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		By: Daphne Caruana Galizia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne Caruana Galizia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Italy is a mess, Jozef. However much you might love it, that is a fact. And organised crime isn&#039;t the only factor to blame there. The real problem is lack of innovation and too much resting on time-honoured laurels. The result is that the country has been outstripped in every league for which it was famous, including restaurants and design.  Culturally, Italy is fossilised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italy is a mess, Jozef. However much you might love it, that is a fact. And organised crime isn&#8217;t the only factor to blame there. The real problem is lack of innovation and too much resting on time-honoured laurels. The result is that the country has been outstripped in every league for which it was famous, including restaurants and design.  Culturally, Italy is fossilised.</p>
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		By: torquemada		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[torquemada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Constitution was intended to give Italy weak and unstable coalition governments to prevent the emergence of another Mussolini.&quot;

Exactly. And that is why the Mafia regions overwhelmingly voted No. They don&#039;t want another Mussolini because Il Duce was the only politician who succeeded in decimating the Mafia. 

That was why, when the Americans invaded Sicily, hardly a shot was fired. Calogero Vizzini, the then Capo Mafia, rolled out the red carpet for the Allies because he couldn&#039;t get rid of Mussolini soon enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Constitution was intended to give Italy weak and unstable coalition governments to prevent the emergence of another Mussolini.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. And that is why the Mafia regions overwhelmingly voted No. They don&#8217;t want another Mussolini because Il Duce was the only politician who succeeded in decimating the Mafia. </p>
<p>That was why, when the Americans invaded Sicily, hardly a shot was fired. Calogero Vizzini, the then Capo Mafia, rolled out the red carpet for the Allies because he couldn&#8217;t get rid of Mussolini soon enough.</p>
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		By: patrick elliot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patrick elliot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sure. If only those pesky mafiosi would launder the goodies through the Itie banking system everything would be peachy.
NPLs are so tricky when you&#039;re in a straitjacket.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. If only those pesky mafiosi would launder the goodies through the Itie banking system everything would be peachy.<br />
NPLs are so tricky when you&#8217;re in a straitjacket.</p>
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