Look at this exchange of comments on www.timesofmalta.com
You must read them from the bottom up to follow the sequence.
Robert Callus
@Kenneth Galea
Not entitled to use Mater Dei if she has no insurance???? How low can we get? Where has humanity gone? Since everyone seems blinded by hate, may I be the first to look at the positive, that we have people in our Army who put their own lives in danger to save others, and that luckily we have a free health system.Franco Farrugia
After reading these comments, I realise all the more how we have lost everything, here in Malta. We are lost, body and soul! And soul, especially!Kenneth Galea
@John Betts
The pregnant ILLEGAL immigrant should not have paid the human trafficker to make the dangerous crossing from Libya. It just goes to show how irresponsible she is!!!!!! Why should the Maltese authorities be responsible for her total disregard to the life she is carrying??? And the alternative is send her back where she came from that is Libya or Yemen!!!! Libya’s medical facilities are up to standard providing you can pay for treatment. Medical treatment is free to those who are eligible only. The illegal immigrants should not form part of the never ending waiting list of the Mater Dei Hospital.Kenneth Galea
@Dempster
100% Agreed! The PL and the PN are taking the Maltese people for a ride in respect of this national crisis. In particular the PN, currently we have a PN government and the ultimate responsibility lies with the party who is governing. I get the impression that the PL might have been struck by this political correctness fever! NO VOTE TO BOTH PARTIES FOR SURE!!!!!!!John Betts
Mr. K Galea, if as you say “The illegal pregnant woman is NOT entitled to use the Mater Dei hospital” what would you propose as an alternative? A manger, perhaps, in a stable? God help us, things REALLY have not changed in 2009 years.H Dempster
I have made my decision not vote in the next eu elections as well as to the council election . i have had enough of these illigal immgrants. Thats 5 votes down the drain.Kenneth Galea
@I Galea
I hope voters teach our politicians a big lesson come the June MEP elections. When the weather conditions improve these economic migrants must be taken back to Libya and Yemen where they came from. The illegal pregnant woman is NOT entitled to use the Mater Dei hospital, you cannot just walk in and get free treatment. Is she insured or what???? This is why they keep coming because they get away with murder!A Mallia
Igalea – You seemingly have got no compassion for other human beings, unless, of course, they happen to be Maltese.lgalea
The ship should have been instructed to sail away from Malta perhaps to Libya and deposit the illegal immigrats there. The Maltese people are really fed up to their noses with them and Gobzipn and all politicians and political parties shall get our answer on our ballot paper.
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As I wrote earlier today, some ‘Times’ commentors connot but act as a dog and lift a hind leg at every corner, they must comment. This bunch of dimwits pretend that they have the solemn right to speak for and on behalf of all the Maltese citizens.
I’m paraphrasing a bit here, but didn’t Churchill say something along the lines of democracy’s biggest flaw being the common voter. To have these people not vote would have added quite some credit to democracy.
Hope more will follow suit.
[Daphne – “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.” That’s the quote you’re looking for.]
The Times website is getting to be almost as bad as YouTube.
[Daphne – http://www.timesofmalta.com itself is excellent. The problem lies with the comments, and with the fact that unintelligent, ill-written, semi-literate ‘debate’, liberally decorated with multiple interrogation and exclamation marks, invariably squeezes out any other sort.]
I recently came across a quote from Socrates that said that one of the shortcomings of democracy is that it treated the opinions of all citizens as equal in value. I think he may have been right!
Thank you for the quote… The gist was the same at least.
While these apes commenting on The Times can be fairly irritating, I think in general they seem to be quashed by saner people and perhaps it’s a good thing to expose these thugs for what they are. It provides a platform to criticise the more literate people, such as the leadership of AN, by associating them and their ideas with this type of people. After all the very best reasoning behind the xenophobia that AN is spreading, is pretty much summed up by the comments above.
My biggest problem is that we actually have to pay them the respect not to tell them to go and f**k themselves (and I do mean that in the literal sense), or we will get censored. I do believe that many opinions and ideas do deserve ridicule and mocking and if you post on a public forum you should expect to defend your ideas verbally.
I LOVE the new website of The Times and the comment system is a great idea; it just needs to be polished and planned a bit more. For starters it makes no sense trying to read it in reversed chronological order. The 200 word count limit is just annoying, as we only get fragments of what people are trying to say. Also, it takes too long to moderate in my opinion, especially since news are pretty obsolete the day after.
I would also prefer if they limited comments to registered users and they could actually monitor the comments better. I know they don’t post libellous content, but they allow the propositions to treat immigrants in pretty extreme ways.
I’m not sure I’d go as far as calling timesofmalta.com, and of course The Times, excellent in content. However, the online commentators merit a study. Ever considered slamming them in an article, Daphne?
[Daphne – It’s the site that’s excellent, not the content. The content has yet to match the standard of organisation of the site, and its quality. I’ve written about the comments already.]
John Betts got it right.
Daphne: Same thing for YouTube. Excellent site, brainless commentary.
Oh come on! Your envy knows no bounds. DCG clearly cannot stomach people like Igalea whose erudition, logic and unbiased arguments make hers seem so puerile and partisan.
I.Galea. I see that you are always commenting on all blogs, bar none. The pity is that most of your comments are ‘cretinati’. And do you think you’re being witty in using the term Gonzipn all the time?
Have a look at this “nugget” from IGalea in today’s edition. Incidentally the topic is the new utility rates:
“With Gonzipn’s impositions to compensate for their incompetence and arrogance we were sent back to the stone age since many people cannot make ends meet Mario. That is what the Maltese people have been reduced to.And don’t forget that we have to pay for the wastage of water, electricity, telephone, internet, children allowance, lodging, food and everything that the now nearly 12,000 illegal immigrats which your Gonzipn allows to remain in Malta against the majority of the peoples wishes.”
The guy is nothing short of a paranoid nutcase.
Adrian, I was thinking along the same lines. What is it with these people – what do illegal immigrants have to do with utility bills now? Boggles the mind…..Yes, some people are ‘experts’ in every subject under the sun. I wonder if these ‘experts’ are using a pen name as a disguise.
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I recently came across a quote from Socrates that said that one of the shortcomings of democracy is that it treated the opinions of all citizens as equal in value. I think he may have been right!”
Maybe you can find us a Socrates quote that sets rules that determine who should ultimately be allowed to vote come election time.
I have all but given up trying to post on the Times site. Apart from the fact that moderation takes too long (on one occasion, 3 days) considering that it is not a blog but a news site, the comments of the same dozen people are so repetitive that the whole exercise becomes tedious. I’m guessing but it seems to be that there is more than one moderator and they have different criteria on which they base their moderation.
Well, the comments made here are proof, if any is needed, that at least one half of the debate has been squeezed out of timesofmalta.com There are plenty of racist comments there, but the non-racist voices are few and far between, and the anti-racist voices are almost non-existent. Curiously, some of those who comment say that people are afraid to say what they think for fear of being branded racist.
Oh dear.