Oh, look, another enthusiastic response from the Robert-and-Consie fan club
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February 16, 2010 at 12:29am
The magistrate with the Labour Party's 'executive secretary', Lydia Abela
From ‘Sue Fenech’:
Mur hudu foxx in-nazzjonalisti tieghek .. Miss Liba .. int ghax ma tarax tieghek daphne .. ilhaq salibek qabel tilhaq salib in-nies ..
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Do we have to be vulgar in order to prove our point? These comments are read by many foreigners .. . ghalfejn ghandna naqghu dejjem fil-baxx?
Veru li forsi ma jifhmux jew ma jafux jaqraw bil Malti, imma anki jekk wiehed biss jirnexxielu, mhux dekor ghal Maltin kollha, le?
Trid tirrispetta l-opinjoni ta kulhadd, imma hemm mod u mod kif tghaddi kumment. Mhux sew li niehdu it-tort u jpogguna kollha taht kappell wiehed meta il-maggioranza tal-Maltin mhux se jazzardaw jiktbu b’dak il mod fuq blog. Billi tikteb kliem oxxen m’ intiex se taghmel iktar hoss fl-opinjoni tieghi.
Of course it’s a silly comment but there was no reason for Daphne to not only publish it, but create a whole blog entry about it.
[Daphne – That’s for you to say and for me to decide.]
X’kumment dak eh Ms Sue Fenech – njoranza u hamallagni pura.
X’qatt ha l-bniedem bil-mibeghda? U x’qatt rebah?
Yet another Labour politician, whose husband is a practising lawyer who works in court, huddled cheek to cheek with the magistrate.
She is a practising lawyer as well … and the executive secretary of the Labour Party!
Lydia Abela’s appointment in the MLP or whatever it’s called, could not have happened without any green light from her father-in-law, the president of the republic, and it doesn’t look right to me.
@ P Shaw: yours is a male chauvinist comment. A mature and married person does not need the green light from the father-in-law to do something.
Is that how you decide your things at home, P Shaw?
@P Shaw
Dr Beppe Fenech Adami contested the general election, and was elected, for the PN while his father was serving as President. Naturally, that looks perfectly right to you. I mean, it is the “natural order of things”, right?
@ Albert Farrugia:
In Maltese we say “qed thallat il hass mal …….”
Dr. Beppe Fenech Adami was elected by the public in the general election while as far as I know Lydia Abela was just chosen by the Labour Party with the green light from her father-in-law.
What hypocrisy – Beppe Fenech Adami contested the elections with the PN, before he was elected. So either condemn both Dr.Beppe Fenech Adami and Dr Lydia Abela or accept both.
On di-ve I read “Judiciary told to keep off Facebook”….when what had to be said was that “Judiciary on Facebook should keep off Law Courts”
How fair is it that I have a case against someone defended by Lydia Abela in front of Scerri Herrera without me knowing of this great feeling between the two.
If Dr. Abela was aware that his daughter-in-law was accepting this ‘insignificant’ appointment within the PL then he should have told her not to take it up, in respect of the trust shown towards him, but if now he is aware of this ill judgment by Lydia he should advise her to step down and refuse all cases presided by Scerri Herrera.
The president’s son and Lydia Abela’s husband was one of the guests at that party and shows up clearly in some of the photographs – or rather, he did before they were removed.
Unless I am mistaken, Lydia Abela and her husband are first and second from the right in the photo on the attached link:
http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/02/15/judiciary-warned-about-facebook/
The fact that Lydia Abela is the President’s daughter-in-law is a totally separate issue and should not be brought up at this point.
What this photo, together with other evidence, shows is that the magistrate has compromised her political impartiality and this goes directly against rule 25 of the Code of Ethics for Members of the Judiciary.
http://www.judiciarymalta.gov.mt/code
Miss Galizia, inti tahseb li inti tikkmanda lill Qorti Maltija. Barra li hadtha kontra il-Magistrat Herrera issa hadtha kontra il-Maistrat Dr Micallef Trigona u se nibdew nisimghu il-hmieg fuqu ukoll. X’se taqla fuq il-Magistrati l-ohra jekk il-Amministrazzjoni tal-Gustizzja taqa ghar-rikatti tieghek? Nobody is above the Law and respect other people’s private lives.please.
[Daphne – Rikatt? Hardly. I am standing up for my right as a citizen not to be tried by those who are not in a position to try me. That is the essential point of everything I have been saying. This time it was me, next time it could be you. Bad things are allowed to happen because people of your way of thinking allow them to run on and on and on.]
John Doe has either written yesterday’s maltastar.com article, or else he is simply parroting the words he read on it. Ajma, jahasra, x’pulcinellati!
Imagine you had bought a brand new car from X with guarantee.
While under guarantee, the timing-belt tore (under normal stress conditions) while you were driving and all the valves got bent (long job and costs a lot of money to fix).
You told your boss you had to take leave of absence from work, and then you paid to have your car towed back to X. X told you to leave it there and said he would pay for a rented car for you to drive.
One month later no call has arrived, so you ring X and X tells you they haven’t even started working on it. X then tells you that they cannot pay for your rental car after all, because you had to rent the car from company Z not company Y, but he had omitted to tell you this.
You take X to court, you want the rental car paid, your car fixed at no charge and within a reasonable amount of time (obvious: guarantee), extra costs and also money for the hassle they gave you.
The court case bumps along with difficulties thrown up all the way. Then your friend tells you X has been partying hard with the magistrate and that’s when you say to yourself, “Ma nistax nikkmanda il-qorti Maltija ghax jien gh**x”, instead of doing something more reasonable such as requesting that the case be transferred to another magistrate.
Oh, and this is if your friend is nice enough to tell you things about “other peoples’ private lives”. The alternative is you go to court for 5-10 years over a broken car (which you would have probably replaced by that time) and give up.
@John Doe
Taf x’nismaghhom jghidu lix-xjuh, ‘L-azzjoni min jaghmilha mhux min jirceviha’
U f’dan il-kas sieheb, jekk l-azzjoni ghamluha l-imhallfin, ikunu huma li jkunu above the law jekk ma jhallsux ghaliha! Jigifieri Daphne kull ma qed taghmel hu li tikkummenta fuq it-tahwid li jaghmlu HUMA.
Dix points Ms Fenech…..what a shame! Daphne, please spare us from these idiots.
@K Zammit
I see your point. That means that Beppe Fenech Adami was not chosen beforehand by the PN structures to contest the election, hux hekk?
He just appeared from nowhere to contest…do I get it right? Good to know that PN candidates impose themselves at will on the party structures.
And anyway, when Abela was nominated as president, the pro-PN choir made a big meal about the fact that a Nationalist government is choosing a Labour politician as president. This was hailed as a sign of “unparalleled maturity” by the prime minister. Showers of praise rained on the Abela family at that time.
Why these misgivings now? Or was there some tacit understanding that from now on the Abela family becomes politically castrated?
@Albert Farrugia,
Incredible as it may be, I agree with you on this one. I see nothing wrong in the president’s daughter-in-law being part of any political party – quite normal I think.
Of course, I would feel nervous if she were the lawyer “on the other side” in a case before Magistrate Herrera.
And the fact remains that if Magistrate Herrera wanted to keep up her particular lifestyle then she should never have accepted to be a magistrate in the first place.
If you cannot make a difference between a person who is elected by popular vote and one who is chosen by the party leader to be in a very important position within the party, then all arguments are in vain.
Thanks for your prompt reply. However what if you think that all the magistrates are not befitting to hear and judge your case?
Does that mean that no proceedings be taken against you? If so then we might as well shut that grandiose building in Valletta.
[Daphne – Illogical thinking again. 1. Unfit magistrates are the exception, certainly not the rule, just as Patrick Vella and Noel Arrigo were the exception in the higher court. 2. In the wild and extreme scenario posited by you, that all magistrates are unfit, then it is not I who is wrong for challenging the situation, but others who are wrong for allowing that situation to develop unchecked. The system does have inbuilt measures for redress, but that means spending time and money taking your case all the way to the European Court, which means that so many people don’t bother. There have been incidences in the past when I had grounds to take my case all the way there, but I didn’t bother either. Too much hassle. But I’m damned if it’s going to happen this time. This one is going to run and run. I am astonished by just how many people here are willing to collude in their own bullying, just for a quiet life. Doing things for a quiet life and refusing to confront problems head on invariably ends up causing worse difficulties.]
Cannot Dr Herrara give a party and invite whoever she wants. I would have invited my aquaintances to a birthday party be they my superiors or my subordinates. I’m sure people in both political parties and other important roles in society are invited and attend many parties. If Joseph Muscat gave a birthday party he would most probably invite Dr Gonzi, and would also take some photos with him. Would this mean that they are both cheating on their political parties? If a Magistrate met a lawyer at a party are they expected to ignore each other.
Some moths back when a Minister was invited by two Businessmen for a football match in the UK, you said their was nothing wrong, now that the persons are not NP supporters you changed your opinion. Two weights and two measures?
[Daphne – I don’t think I’ll bother replying, Grace. It would be too time-consuming and exhausting. We would have to start somewhere around the age of five.]
By the way who is Sue Fenech?
[Daphne – Your guess is as good as mine. Just be certain that it isn’t her real name and that it might not even be a woman.]
Well, allow me!
“I would have invited my aquaintances to a birthday party be they my superiors or my subordinates.”
It shows that you were never in that position, especially in a public entity. Imagine the position of, say, a chairman of a public corporation who is buddy-buddy with some subordinates and goes out to tea with them. Nothing wrong, right?
What if she then has to take disciplinary action against them? Worse, what if she doesn’t? Even if no action was warranted, it could still be seen to be preferential treatment.
“If Joseph Muscat gave a birthday party he would most probably invite Dr Gonzi, and would also take some photos with him.”
If it’s an official party he probably would, but rest assured that Gonzi would never pose like a gibbering idiot, nor would he allow any photos to be posted on bloody Facebook.
“If a Magistrate met a lawyer at a party are they expected to ignore each other.”
Is the only alternative to ignoring each other dressing like tramps and looking like they are groping each other, and worse, posting the evidence on Facebook?
Can you imagine our Chief Justice or other judges/magistrates doing that? Can you imagine the Chief Justice with a Facebook account? I would pay you a thousand euros to suggest it to him in my presence.
Members of the judiciary and other public officers must not only act appropriately but be perceived to act appropriately, to remove any doubt whatsoever that there was no wrongdoing, even if there wasn’t.
Being a magistrate is a sacrifice, both financially and socially. You give up a lot, but nobody forces you to do so. If you want to act in a certain (and public) way, do not accept the post, simple as that.
@David Buttigieg
Thanks…I just wonder why it should seem “incredible” that you agree with me. Just as I totally agree with you that young Dr Abela´s personal friendship with the magistrate in question would be of prejudice in a case if she were to appear before her in court.
But my point is that this has nothing to do with the person of the present president of the republic. I think one has to be very careful not to mix issues here.
Well, I only know you through this blog, SO I can only agree with you or not on this blog AND this is the first time I have agreed with one of your posts (that I remember anyway), so that’s why I found it ‘incredible’.
Cheers mate!
Within living memory here was a notorious politically tainted case that could not be heard because for one reason or another all the available judges begged to be excused from hearing it. In the end it had to be assigned to the the last reluctant judge who I am bound to say carried out his duty with so much honesty and justice that thereafter he became a persona non grata to the political power at the time
Within living memory there was a case of a public officer who, though cleared by the criminal courts of accusations against him, felt obliged to resign his post – which he did.
[Daphne – The Commissioner of Police, George Grech.]
Not quite the same but there was also Brigadier Calleja.
Within living memory there was another case of a public officer who felt obliged to resign his post – which he did.
@Francis Saliba
Is it the George Grech case you are referring to as well?
sue fenech – or whatever his or her name is – isn’t worth a comment
to sue fenech: CHEAP REPLY….please mind your language!
Min kiteb dan il kliem vulgaru nheba taht isem iehor zgur. U dan ghamlu biex ma jitressaqx il qorti bhal ma se jigri fil kaz tar rivista Lealta.
Jekk trid tkun serja l-Qorti mhux timponi lil gudikatura mill-facebook imma tibda billi tohrog cirkulari ghall-ilbies dicenti mill-impjegati taghha fil-Qorti! Dehert quddiem Magistrat li ghalija huwa wiehed mis-serji imma kellu lis-skrivana lil-ilbies taghha iktar kien jixraq lil l-ikbar prostituta li jkun hemm Albert Town! F’Hames minuti kont naf il-kuluri kollha li tipreferi li tilbes! X’ma jaqawx fil-qrejjen il-Gudikatura!
@mario
Ghandex 1000 ragun sieheb! Din hi problema ta’ mentalita kontemporanja li XEJN M’HU XEJN. Jien ma nqis lili nnifsi xi dejjaq, altru min dan ghax kont inpoggi fl-ewwel filliera kienu kont naf li ser ikun hemm dik is-show mis-segretarja, pero l-idea li kollox sar tajjeb u gust, nahseb li ser titfaghna fl-abbiss. Naqra serjeta w dekor nahseb li ghad baqghalhom post hux?!
I would like to comment on the no. 2. We are talking about infringement of the law committed in Malta. hence it is the Maltese judiciary that has to take cognisance of the case and decide on its merit whether to acquit or sentence the accused after hearing all the evidence.
Redress in the European Court can be taken if our courts unlawfully do not give the accused a lawful trial. In my illogical way of reasoning, all I’m saying is that I believe that the majority of our magistrates and judges are honest people and they have a right to their private lives.
They are human like the rest of us.
[Daphne – Well, then, all the rest of us can become judges and magistrates, given a law degree and 12 years of prattika in court.]
I would like to quote a sentence said by a very famous man, “He who is without sin cast the first stone”.
[Daphne – Like all others who quote that, you misinterpret it. It was a sanction against stoning, and not instruction to people to turn a blind eye to wrong-doing. Also, it refers to an ordinary woman, and not to a public official, about whom there is a more famous quotation that includes the words ‘whitewashed tombs’.]
“You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.”
New Living Translation (©2007)
@Grace
Jien kultant nahsibni qed niggennen u m’ghadniex naf naqra – ghax ma nistax nifhem kif bicca bhal din thallata ma’ zewg businessmen jiehdu lil xi ministru loghba football.
It was only blown out of proportion by Malta Today (who else?) and, in any case, hawn qed nitkellmu fuq public officials imhallsa minn-nies, u suppost altru fdati minn-nies ukoll.
Businessmen make their own living and employ hundreds of people. I am NOT saying or arguing ghamlux tajjeb jew le – am not in a position to do so – imma ma nara l-ebda konnessjoni ma’ din il-kwistjoni.
@SPTT
Not Commissioner of Police Grech at all. Go further back to the time of the Blue Sisters.
An old wise man told me that the perception of others is your reality. The reality on Cons is exaclty what my perception is. The photos speak for themselves. No Commentary is needed.
Veru li fil-laqgha ta’ nhar il-Hadd l-Imsida ta’ Joseph Muscat kien hemm ir-ragel ta’ Marlene Mizzi? Anki l-magistrati huma moderati!
Qed jghidu li Robert Abela se johrog mal-Moviment il-gdid. Issa jekk ghajruh Nazzjonalist insewha, l-aqwa li tela’ Joseph?