Attakk viljakk u fahxi fuq Justyne Caruana
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7 ta’ Mejju 2010
Stqarrija mill-Kumitat Regjonali ghal Ghawdex
Il-Kumitat Regjonali ghal Ghawdex jiddeplora l-agir tal-Gvern
Il-Kumitat Regjonali ghal Ghawdex tal-Partit Laburista jiddeplora l-mod degradanti u viljakk li bih membri tal-Gvern ipprovaw joskuraw lid-deputat parlamentari laburista Ghawdxija l-Avukat Justyne Caruana f’attentat biex jghatti xturu fl-isfond tad-dibattitu dwar l-ghoti tal-kuntratt tal-power station.
Dan l-agir mhux biss huwa attakk fuq membru parlamentari imma huwa wkoll sinjal ta’ disprezz lejn il-kostitwenti Ghawdxin taghha.
F’dan il-mument delikat, il-Kumitat Regjonali jixtieq jaghti s-solidarjetà tieghu lil Justyne Caruana u jesprimi l-fiducja tieghu shiha fiha.
Dr Grazio Mercieca
Chairperson
Joseph Debrincat
Segretarju Kumitat Regjonali
Ufficcju tal-Komunikazzjoni
Partit Laburista
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I must have missed that. Did the gvern attack her with a handbag?
Would have been wicked had the PN’s MP heard Joe Debono Grech getting his vote wrong, instead of Justyne Caruana. I heard she burst into tears when she realised what was happening. Is that true?
[Daphne – No, that was Joseph Muscat.]
Now, why does Wil E Coyote come to mind?
Or was it JPO ?
“F dan il-mument delikat” – tal-biki, man.
Perhaps he was thinking of the “mument delikat” in Greece.
U dan il-kjass kollu, mela nsewh il-kas ta’ Glenn Bedingfield bhala MEP u vvota kontra?
Pathetic, chicken-brained lot!
Tinsultax it-tigieg.
Bhalissa hawn wirja brillanti ta’ zewg deputati Laburisti fuq Xarabank. Dik li qalet sar frame-up fuqa qed turi kif ghanda issir diskussjoni civili billi ixxejjer idha f’wicc haddiehor. Jekk jghaddu elf sena ohra xorta ma jitghallmux.
Tista tghidli ghaliex Muscat infaqa jibki?
[Daphne – Kien emozzjonat bl-attakk fahxi u viljakk fuq id-demokrazija, min-naha tal-gvern.]
Gralu bhal Debono Grech, qalbu zghira miskin!
Nahseb li l-pjan li kellu f’mohhu ma’ rnexxiex u wara li ma’ kellux iktar karti x’jilghab infaqa’ jibki ghax id-demokrazija qed titnaqqar.
Hallina Guz!
Jew infaqa jibki ghax baqalu f’wiccu. Min jaf kemm kien ilu jippjana.
Ghax dahallu f’ghajnejh l-bzar li qed iroxx Gonzipn.
Min ghandu l-bzar ha jroxxu, hekk jghid qaddisi.
Bil-bzar ma’ nieklux.
Veru ma tafux x’qed jigri, dan il-pajjiz miexi lejn dittatorjat. Demokrazija ma jfissirx li taghmel li trid ghax tikkmanda int. Ghada din it-tattika tista tigri lilkhom. Miskina Malta.
Diga grat. U tipprovax taghti lezzjonijiet fid-demokrazija meta lanqas taf issib il-kelma f’lessiku ghat-tfal.
Fuq kollox jekk inti tahseb li mixjin lejn dittatorjat mur sewwi mohhok jew dawwar l-arogg lura ghat-tmeninijiet…hemm ikollok spjega elokwaci ta x’hiex tikkonsisti dittatura.
I would not define myself as Gonzi’s most enthuisastic fan but your comment is misplaced to say the least.
I was a teenager in the early and mid 80’s and I can assure you that I never have re-lived that creeping feeling of dread as democratic institutions were visibly eroded while the labour government of the day moved steadily towards a police state.
Since those days, I have valued my freedom above any issue that politicians bring to the table. Compared to the antics of some of Labour’s “aristocratic” followers, this “attak fahxi” on democracy has as much relevance as Clinton’s cigar had on Monica’s dress.
Ezatt, carmel, demokrazija ma jfissirx li taghmel li trid, bhal ma ghamel Joseph, u bhal ma ghamlu il kapijiet Laburisti ta qablu. Mela issa the boy from nowhere se jghallimna id-demokrazija. Ara veru ma tisthux!
@ carmel
Ikolli nghid wiccek imcappas wahda sew b’dak il materjal li kien jisbroffa Wied Ghammieq biex titkellem fuq dittatorjat. Jaqaw qed tiffissa li isem il kap ta l-oppozizzjoni ma jistax jissemma fuq ix xandir nazzjonali jew li il kelma “kulhadd” ma tistax tintuza bhal ma kien gara fi snin id dlam u l-wahx?
Is this a threat? We’ve had enough of Labour corruption, injustice, frame-ups, murders, violence, terror, dictatorship, humiliation, international isolation and embarrassment, etc etc in the seventies and eighties. What are you trying to compare here? Oh I think I’m wasting my time!
Carmel, ahjar tghid li tal-Labour tant riedu jirbhu din il-mozzjoni, li ghax Mario ha zball, l-oppozizzjoni lanqas biss taghtu cans jikkoregi l-izball u bdew jghajtu u jinsulentaw lin-naha tal-gvern. Wara kollox anka Justyne hadet zball. Ghalkemm ma ammetitx.
Dittatorjat? Fis 70s u 80s konna hekk. Jew insejt jew ma ghext d’dawk is snin.
Last I checked we have an independent judiciary, freedom of press, a healthy (though clownish) opposition, more devolution of power towards local councils and a strong middle-class that depends on a strong and fair government.
I’m not seeing an interior ministry with big dungeons and seedy individuals prowling the night knocking on doors. I’m not seeing any sign of disappeared yet…
Just wait for Labour to be in government! You will, I am sure.
Possibli li fis-sena 2010 m’hemmx metodu ta’ votazjoni ahjar biex jigu evitati dawn il kazi ta’ lapsus? Din mhix l- ewwel darba li sehhet.
Kienu qed jikkunsidraw idahhlu il-buttuni, bhal tal-Parlament Ewropew. Izda wara ir-rebus li ghamlu fil-votazzjonijiet taghhom il-MEPs tal-Lejber, li kienu jaghfsu dejjem il-buttuna il-hazina, iddecidew li mhix idea tajba.
Ma tantx toskura malajr lil Justyne ghax, milli qed nara min fuq Xarabank, meta il-kamera ma tkunx fuqa, xorta wahda tismahha.
Tista issib job fuq il-vapuri tal Gozo Channel w izommuha ghal-meta il-fliegu jkun fic-cpar.
why don’t you publish the parliamentary recording?
“Attakk viljakk u fahxi fuq Justyne Caruana”
Mela meta harqu l-bini tat-Times bil-haddiema gewwa, kissru d-dar u sawtu l-familja ta’ Dr. Fenech Adam, harqu w kissru kwazi l-kazini kollha tal-partit Nazzjonalista u nista’ nibqa’ sejjer b’lista li ma tispicca qatt, dak x’jissejjah?
Kif ma tisthux tidhru quddiem in-nies!
“Demokrazija ma jfissirx li taghmel li trid ghax tikkmanda int.” U inqas u inqas ma tfisser li tista tghamel li trid u tara kif timponi l-fehmiet tieghek fuq kullhadd meta ma tkunx tikkmanda, Carmel.
Fejn kont fis-sebghanijiet u fit-tmeninijeit, Carmel.
Issa qed attaparsi tqabbez id-demokorazija ghax-Malta issiehbet mal-Unjoni Ewropea kontra qalbek, Carmel, ghax b’hekk inqarsitlek il-fifra w anke dik ta’ ibnek li, ma dan kollu ma iddejjaq xejn jmur jahdem il-UK bis-sahha tad-dritt li jaghmel dan li taghtu l-istess shubiha ta’Malta fil-EU.
Ma nafx min hu l’ahjar bejnek u bejn Joseph Muscat, ghax it-tnejn ipokriti meta tigu ghad-demokrazija w l-EU.
I can understand the PL denying that Justyne Caruana voted no but why do they describe the incident as an “attack” and why is it “degrading and cowardly”? And why is it described as an act of “contempt towards Gozitans”? The improper and excessive use of such dramatic words ends up by emptying them of any real meaning so that they become a hackneyed formality.
carmel
Ezatt! Kummenti bhal tieghek qed isammru l-Lejber fuq is-siggihiet ta l-oppozizzjoni. U triduna nafdaw fl-LP?
Jahasra, aggradew lill Justyne Caruana u Joseph nfaqa jibki? Mur gibu prim ministru u jinqala xi disastru! X’jaghmel imur jibki f’rokna?
U jekk trid issemmi d-demokrazija, tghid ser inqabbdu l-Lejber jghallimna d-demokrazija ala Mintoff u KMB?
@carmel
Id-demokrazija tfisser li jekk zewg persuni ghamlu zball genwin ghax kienu saru is-siegha ta filghodu ghandu jkollhom cans jirrangaw l-izball. Mhux teatrin shih biex nippruvaw nidhru helwin.
Fejn irridu biss niggieldu ghal second chance ghandu jkun – bhar-referendum ta L-EU- rizultat fazull ghax ma harigx kif ridnieh ahna allura rridu elezzjoni!! Malajr imorru jigru ghand il-poplu tal-Labour meta jaqblilhom.
Why do simple things like this grow from molehills to mountains?
Hon. Mario Galea ‘s intentions were to vote with the government. He wanted to vote no but said yes and immediately changed it to a no vote. His intentions were clear and that what matters. This is not a chess game.
What would it matter if Hon Justyne Caruana voted no, if she really meant yes. I find this attitude very childish. Now the PL wants Dr Gonzi to apologise, and then what, call for election?
If anything needs to be changed on this island is the opposition party. Knock off the games and political posturing.
Lenonard
tiidher li ma tafhomx ir-regoli tal-parlament.
To be fair (avolja huma ma jafux xi tfisser dil-kelma), din il-bicca xoghol diga nqalghet darbtejn ohra, darba lil LP u l-ohra lin-naha taghna.
li jirrabjani hu dan. Wara li gara dan ghal darba tnejn, ghax ma rrangajniex l-affarijiet minn qabel, halli ma naghtux lil LP fuqxiex ilabalbu?
Ghandhom xi jdumu sejrin biha…….
Seriously everyone needs to lighten up…..these so called lapsuses happen often in politics. Why do the Maltese have to adopt cut-throat tactics as if it’s the end of the world?
We still have a long way to go before we can practise mature democratic principles. Unfortunately the Leader of the Opposition is only fanning the fire in the direction of Labour’s past with his schoolboy antics.
This comment was posted by a certain Sandra Grima on Joseph’s facebook wall. There are many more along these lines…..it’s a good insight into a Labourite’s psyche at present…..ma nifilhux nistennew iktar biex jitla l-Gvern taghna ha naghmlu li rridu…..igri jaqa l-Gvern…..u Joseph qed jimxi ghal ghajnhom!
OK, NOQGHODU KWIETI U NISSAPORTU, IMMA FEJN SER NASLU ? WASLU ZGUR TA QABILNA, IBDA TAS SETTE GUGNIO U KOMPLI F’ TAT28 T’ APRIL ISSA AHNA MXEBBAJN. FI ZMIENNA HLIEF BOMBI U SPARAR L- HEMM U -L HAWN MA KIENUX ISIRU BIEX UMBAGHAD JAJRU LILNA, U R- RIZULTAT X’INHU 20 SENA U FUQHOM JIGGVERNAW U MA JISTA JNIZZILHOM HADD!
Carmel, ghidli ftit kemm ghandek snin!
No doubt that the Gozitans overreacted but these political party local committees normally do that don’t they? However who can deny that Justyne was unjustly treated by the Government benches?
Having said that, I also felt so sorry for Mario Galea, the man is OK and I sincerely hope that he and Justyne get over it soon.
[Daphne – ‘I hope they get over it soon’. Did somebody die, because I hadn’t noticed.]
How come only two members made a mistake? Such a mad rush to call out the names in alphabetical order. You have to vote YES for a motion to pass when in actual fact you want to say a big NO for the substance of the motion.
dear, dear carmel, nahseb li ghadek ftit zghir fl’eta’, biex tiftakar, saqsi u tkun taf id=differenza fid-demokrazija bejn il PN u PL, kemm doqna swat u diskriminazjoni. Nghatik ezempju: ix-xoghol tieghi kien jitlob skola u tghalim f’xoghol specjalizzat, keccewni ‘l barra,gew jaqghu u jqumu li kelli familja xi nrabbi, tfal ghadhom zghar, tnejn, taf x’tawni naghmel,? niknes it-toroq, sewwa fhimt, niknes it-toroq, u li kieku mhux ghax il-fiducja fill Hanin Mulej li salvatni, ili taht 6 piedi trab. Dik demokrazija, eh ? narga nghidlek, saqsi lill min hu mgarrab biex forsi tiftah daqsxejn ghajnejk.
[Daphne – Carmel is 70 or thereabouts.]
Konna ghaddejin ghall-affari taghna sejrin il-quddies fl-ghaxija – jien, l-gharusa u missieri. Ghadna kif hrigna mil bieb ta’ barra. Tieqaf private ghax hasbu li qattajtilhom il-bandiera (?). Missieri, kbir fl-eta, aggredit, l-gharusa mghafusa mal-koxxa tal-bieb, jien sfajt fl-art mghoti bis sieq, kissruli in-nuccali, kollox quddiem ghajnejn ommi. Mort l-ghassa nghamel rapport, taf x’qalli is-surgent? “Mhux ahjar tinsa kollox?”
Jien niskanta kif hemm MPs Laburisti ta’ l-affari taghhom li jallu l-Muscat jaghmel dawn il hnizriejiet.
MPs Laburisti ta’ l-affari taghhom…
Jekk tkun tal-affari tieghek, tkun ilek li warrabt…..
A few months back, two MEPs riding on the Labour ticket, abstained and/or voted against what was percieved as a key vote on immigration at the European Parliament. After an intense grilling and media furore, these two MEPs attributed this defailance to an oversight and rectified their vote.
One would have thought that after this, the Labour Party could recognise a genuine mishap.. but no… Listening to the Parliamentary broadcast, I thought this was yet another primate tussle between Birdlife and hunters, with grunts, shouts, insults, banging, shrieking etc;
Almost makes you question the need for a new parliament house.
@ carmel, u nerga niktiblek, habib, ghalija kulhadd habib, lkoll ghandna demm Malti jigri go fina, NAHFER IVA, NINSA QATT, imma biex titkellem hekk fuq id-demokrazija …..
Ma nafx jekk intix ser taqra x’hemm risposta ghal li ktibt int, forsi il-kurzita’ tghelbek, min jaf ?
Din bhal medicina, ftit kulljum biex tghamillek il-gid.
Ma nafx jekk ghandekx tfal kbar u qghadu ghal xi ezami kompettitiv mal-gvern, jghaddu mill ezami, jigu minn ta’ l-ewwel, u jinqatghu barra biex jintghazel iehor, tifel ta’ bazuzlu kif gara lilna, it-tifla, b’ghaxar O levels, ma tintghazelx ghal ma l-Air Malta biex jintghazlu ohrajn bl-O levels fil Handicrafts u Music u Needlework, imma ahna dejjem konna immarkati b’salib blu u qatt ma hadna xejn, XEJN.
Jew li jigi xi trakk mghobbi bl-irgiel libsin T-shirt ahmar, jieqaf quddiem id-dar tieghek u jhabbtu fur it-tankijiet (45 gallon drums) u jghamlu sinjali lejn id-dar tieghek biex iwerwruk.
M’hiniex ser inkun iktar specifiku, ghax perswaz li il PL ghandhom il CV (curriculum vitae) (min ahna) fuq kull familja u persuna f’Malta u Ghawdex) u ma rridx li tigri xi vendikazzjoni sew lill uliedi jew lin-nepputijiet il-quddiem.
Biss, nitolbok, habib, attent kif titkellem fuq id=demokrazija sahha u nixtieqlek kull risq.
Typical of Labour. They get as many of their useless (and brainless) committees, sections, forums (which have mushroomed in the last few years) – not to mention the IGM – to issue press releases, possibly dictated by some party functionnaire on a fat cat’s salary in the Centru Nazzjonali “bir-rieda tal-Leader,” to condemn some “obsene act” perpetrated by the “Nationalist dictatorship.”
”il-Kumitat Regjonali jixtieq jaghti s-solidarjetà tieghu lil Justyne Caruana ”
Sa fejn naf jien ma taghmilx sens li ”taghti” solidarjeta’. Solidarjeta’ hija xi haga astratta – wiehed biss jista’ ”juri solidarjeta’ ma’ ” u mhux ”jaghti solidarjeta’ lil ”. Imma wara kollox il-LP maghrufin ghall-progressivita’ taghhom!
Jaqaw kitibielhom xi wiehed minn ta’ Mlatasatr?
Ghalura xi tghid ghal-l-istqarijiet tad-deputati Nazzjonalisti-
Dr Deguara u Dr Chris Said. Semawa tghid No- indunaw li kien zbal genwin u halewa ghadeja. Meta missu Mario Galea,
ghaliex fl-alphabeth C tigi qabel G, zbalja l-istess, u ghamel
dikjarazzjoni biex jiccara l-Vot. Prosit Mario tal-irgulija-
Ghamel sew l-priminsitru fliemkein ma grupp parlamentari NP li ma accetawx ir-riizenja tieghek.
Il PL jrid jnidhol fix-xena lokali meta jara s-succesi tal-priministru u l-gvern specjalment dwar holqien tax-xoghol.
At last our friend Brian Hansford of the most viewed program Realtà managed to crack the code and with the help of the most advanced technology managed to produce the YES of Dr Justyne Caruane in Parliament last Thursday.
To those who hear this recording can make his/her own judgment if she said yes or no. I couldn’t make it out, but if you train yourself before hearing the recording and say yes two or three time and convince yourself that she really said yes and turn it on I can reassure you that you will hear a yes being said by Justyne Caruana.
This is the way that One news manipulates its viewers and listeners i.e. brain washing.
http://maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10cont.asp
I have spent years listening to hundreds of hours of audio recordings of human speakers. Ideally one tries to reduce noise levels to near zero, and one insures proper amplification for voice.
In the case of the parliament recordings, the signal is so weak, and the noise levels are so relatively high, NO TECHNOLOGY can allow you to “hear” what was recorded, especially when the speech signal is nearly non-existent.
http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10cont.asp
Did you ever hear a ‘le’ which ends with a ‘va’?
I don’t understand how a person can justify anything to defend its party. Yes it was an attack on Justyne, a disgusting one too…
Now as a floating voter I’m starting to see reality….you call others brainwashed..but are you?
but what are you?
Are autogoals intentional? Are they valid? You see!
We’re not playing football. What a stupid analogy!
People can and will err but we, as adults, should politely allow them to rectify their mistake and not throw a tantrum like some toddler eying a chocolate bar.
I’m ready to bet that you are not a floating voter as you declared a couple of posts above. Try harder.
Puffer, if an MP says yes instead of a no do you consider his intentions as being anti-government?
Today I heard how a vote is taken in parliament …it is like on the Monti market!
The only intentional clear NO vote against one’s own government which I heard on radio was Mintoff’s, and it was not on a money vote. Alfred Sant resigned because he painted himself in a corner by threatening his MP’s that if the Cottonera Bill did not pass he would resign. And resign he did, thanks to his threat not thanks to Mintoff’s vote.
@Puffer
Parliament is not football, although some view it as a game.
Vera miskina Malta jekk jitla PL
Pastazata kbira – waqt li kont qed nisma live x’qed jigri ma stajtx nemmen!!!! Demokrazija spiccat hawn malta. Il-gvern viljakk ma accetax li johrog il-vot mill-ewwel 35IVA 34LE. Il-mozzjoni ghaddiet – l-ispeaker gie manipulat u kkontrollat mill-PN. Hemm xi haga tintenn zgur. Immaginajt loghba futbol spiccat 0-1 – ir-referree flok saffar tmiem il-partita iddecieda li l-loghba terga tintlaghab!!!! DAN HU STAT DITTATORJAT – MHEMMX MOD IEHOR JEKK MA SSIRX SKUZA MHUX LIL JUSTINE IMMA LILL-POPLU MALTI KOLLU – INKELLA IRID JIRREZENJA!!!
Hmerijiet. Tqabbel il-parlament ma’ loghba football. Dittatorjat, qed tghid? Mela kif ghandna zewg partiti fil-parlament? Kif ghandna elezzjonijiet? Kif ghandna kap tal-oppozizzjoni b’funzjoni kostituzzjonali, u salarju konsegwenti? Kif ghandna mhux biss gazzetti, imma radio u television stations tal-partiti, ha jxandru l-propaganda 24 siegha kuljum?
Finalment, jekk dan hu “STAT DITTATORJAT”, nassumi li kapaci ssib aggettivi sahansitra iktar qawwija biex tiddeskrivi s-snin 1972-1987.
Facebook new Group : Solidarjeta ma Justine Caruana.
Here are some of the comments
kuragg justyne….int kont adek u tibqa b sahhtek…..bhal ma dejjem kont…..jippruvaw ihamgu…..jipruvaw jinqdew b nies li jaghmlu xoghlhom sew..!!!!….u keep it up…………nharsu l quddiem forsi xi darba naraw id dawl….
Nota lil admin: possibli li tiktbu l-isem sew (justyne) ?
ibqija proset tal-inizzjattiva hbieb :)
solidarjeta ma justine caruana justyne baghtet dan il messagg lil membri ta din il fan page.
Grazzi hafna tas-solidarjeta kbira.
Nistqarr li kienet trawma kbira ghalija pero serviet biex tghaqqadna iktar. Qatt ma mmaginajt li hawn xi hadd jasal sa dan il-punt u jigdeb sfaccatament. Inhossni onorata hafna bis-solidarjeta tant kbira mieghi u ma familti.
Grazzi minn qalbi
Justyne
Should we laugh or cry?
U le, imma vera dawn it-teatrini? Mela tajrula xi siena bhal ma gara fl-80s jew hbewla xi arma fil-basket biex tghajjat frame up?
U veru tkun miskina Malta jekk il-partit imkisser ta’ Carmel ikun fil-gvern.
I have heard Xarabank of last Friday and Dr Jose Herrera answered when questioned by Peppi regrding the genuine mistake made by Mario Galea that those who are in politics unfortunately have to play and be part of the political game. So this also applies to Justyne Caruana without going into the merits of her case.
Minn kollox qed isir biex dan il-kuntratt jghaddi – minkejja l-kunfitti fl-interess, il-commisions kollha involuti, xoghol moddi lil hbieb, etc, xorta dan gvern baqa ghaddej. Issa bl-aktar mod demokratiku gie mressaq fil-parlament, u l-mozzjoni tal PL ghaddiet 35-34. Min ma jaccettax dan il-verdett huwa godard u giddieb u huwa car li l-motivazzjonijiet huma kbar u oltre. Rigward il-vot ta’ Justyne, l-inkwiet tieghi hu li flok il-parlamentari tal-PN kienu onesti u ddizassocjaw ruhhom mill gidba tal-vici prim ministru, HADD MA KELLU L-KURAGG JGHID IL-VERITA. Haga nissugerixxi, mill-membri parlamentari kollha min hu lest minnhom li jahilfu jghidu x’semghu!!!! Imbgahd il-poplu jiggudika!!! L-anqas tista tavda lil dan il-gvern fuq 35 voti ahseb u ara fl-elezzjoni generali!!!! Ifthu ghajnejkom PLEASE!!!
Mr C. Agius, Inhoss li l-kummenti tieghek huma sinciera u se nirrispondi lilek biss. Jien ukoll bhalek habib ghaddejt minn martirju li beda fl-1987.
L-ewwel, partitarji nazzjonalisti dahlu fuqi bl-armi waqt li kont ix-xoghol, dan hekk kif thabbar ir-rizultat tal-elezzjoni u l-ebda pulizija ma pprotegini.
Minn dakinhar beda il-martirju bi transfers minn post ghal iehor sakhemm kelli nirtira mix-xoghol qabel iz-zmien ghax kieku nahseb li ilhom li baghatuni d-dinja l-ohra. Sincierament jiddispjacini ghal dak li gara lilek ghax naf x’jigiefiri.
‘Attakk viljakk u fahxi fuq Justyne Caruana’
Mela fuq Daphne, il-familja taghha, kif tiddeskrevuh l-attakk? U fuq il-qabar ta’ omm il-prim ministru? Intkom imbdiltu? Il- biki inhalluh ghal vavi.
Riya, Qisek qed tghid li l-attakk fuq Daphne u l-familja taghha u fuq il-qabar ta’ omm il-prim ministru sar mill-PL? Nahseb li n-nies maturi kollha jaqblu li dawn l-attakki saru minn nies viljakki. L-istess bhal ma kien sar mal-qabar tal-mara ta Mintoff – l-istess. Issa irridu nharsu l-quddiem u rridu nirragunaw. Possibli l-kuntratt il-gdid tal-Power Station ma tarawlu xejn suspettuz?
Dan bhal pjan ta Renzo Piano – kull min inkellem kollha l-istess kellma – imma ghaliex parlament ezatt malli tidhol l-belt u mhux post iehor? ghaliex it-teatru bla saqaf? ghaliex l-entrata qed tigi mdejqa u mhux semplicament nirrangaw il-bieb? Ghaliex dawn il-progetti qed isiru daqshekk malajr isu hemm x’tahbi??? jew fori sibna xi tezor ghax sakemm naf jien 4 biljun euro dejn ghandna u dan dejjem jikber!!
@ malti ( laburist ) ghal tal-Labour kollox suspettuz:
Il-bini tal power station
Il-bini ta l’airport il-gdid
Il-bini ta l’isptar il-gdid
Il-water front
Il-free port
U issa bieb il-Belt, l-extension tal-power station, teatru ghax bla saqaf.
Gloom and doom.
U bilhaqq, Riya, toqodx twahhal f’tal-PL ghax dawk issa moderati u progressivi.
Malti, ghalhekk it-teatru bla saqaf halli in-Nazzjonalisti ma jkunu jistghu jahbu xejn.
Dear Carmel, thank you for answering, but two wrongs never made a right, and I abhor any wrong doing.
I think it is disgusting that most of the time, it is the innocent ones who bear the brunt. One evening, on my way home, I had to drive on the periphery of the crowd of a corner meeting. It was the only way home, and without any provocation at all, I was surrounded by thugs who started banging and kicking the car with two children inside, the boy still a baby sleeping in his mother’s lap, and it was only by good fortune that a policeman did not let these thugs overturn the car. He then took the driver’s seat and drove us out off the crowd.
All this because they thought it improper for me to be there. My wife told her father, a man who thought of Mintoff as the saviour and who kept his photo in his wallet, what had happened the day before. My father-in-law tore to shreds that photo and his party membership card.
Let’s stop all this mud throwing and fighting between ourselves and not let molehills grow into mountains. I have many, many more recollections but do not want to feel sorry for myself. I CANNOT be more specific, you know the reason why, and do not wish to take more valuable space. Regards and best wishes to you all out there.
Forsi ippronunzjat “Yes” bl-Ghawdxi u instemghet “No”.
Tinsewx nies meta sar l-attak fuq il-qabar ta’ Moira Mintoff! Dak iz-zmien kienu hdaru ghal Mintoff ghax ivvota kntrihom fil-parlament, u bis-sahha ta’ hekk Sant spicca darba ghal dejjem.
Trid tkun iblah biex ma tahsibx min seta ghamel dan fuq il-qabar ta’ Mrs Mintoff. Dawn in-nies dejjem emmnu fil vjolenza, u l-eba terrimot mhu ser ibiddel id-demm li hemm jigri fil-vini taghhom.
Jekk qed niftakar sew din Justyne mhix l-istess wahda li lilna n-Nazzjonalisti ghajritna sriep fil-konferenza generali tal-PL xi ftit snin ilu? Kemm xejrithom idejha dak inhar.u kemm capcpulha dawk presenti. Din mhix vjolenza morali?
@ malti.
‘Riya, Qisek qed tghid li l-attakk fuq Daphne u l-familja taghha u fuq il-qabar ta’ omm il-prim ministru sar mill-PL?’
Ghandek xi dubju li l-attakk fuq Daphne u l-famlja taghha ma’ sarx mill-PL? Iva dawk il-villjakki u giddibin tal-Maltastar.com biex jiddefendu Magistrata giddieba. U bhal dawn l-attakki saru hafna. Bhal perezempju ta’ Gordon Cordina u hafna ohrajn.
Dwar il-qabar ta’ omm il-Prim Ministru forsi wiehed jista’ jkollu xi dubju irqiq. Imma issa dan huwa xoghol il-pulizija biex tinvestiga halli dawn id-dubji jispiccaw. Pero’ is-suspett xorta jmur fuq il-PL. Kienu ilhom jajruh lill-Prim Ministru anke deputati fil-parlament. Anke bi kliem oxxen. U josepf Muscat ukoll ajru giddieb u pastaz. Hekk imorru l-quddiem habib?
Issa dwar il-kaz tal-power station! Da’ zgur li ghandna id-dubji, u kbar ukoll. Minn min hu mghamul il-konsorzjum l-iehor habib? Veru li hemm negozzjanti li kienu marru Dubai ma’ delegazzjoni Laburista? U fuq il-progett ta’ Renzo Piano. Taf li Renzo Piano kien mitlub jahdem fuq dan il-progett min KMB fiz-zmien Gvern Laburista. Issa hazin ukoll dan?
U dwar il-korruzzjoni. Ghandkom ex Supretendent bhala deputat mexxej li meta kien fil–pulizija kien jippretendiha hafna u suppost jaf jinvestiga. Imissu jgib il-provi u mhux joqghod jitfa it-tajn u d-dubji fl’imhuh tan-nies bhal ma’ ghamel fil-kaz tal-voti fl-ahhar elezzjoni imbghad qatt ma’ smajna xejn. Dan taf kif kien jinvestiga meta kien fil-pulizija? Billi jitfak f’xi cella mahmuga u fid-dlam biex tammetti ghax qatt ma’ ghamel egubijiet fil-pulizija hlief qad jistudja minn fuq dahar il-Gvern nazzjonalista biex lahaq avukat. Mela ma’ naqbilx li-mmorru l-quddiem imma bil-PL lura zgur imorru habib. Kif fuq kollox dejjem gara.
@Stefan Vella
I told you I’m a floating voter. Whether you believe that or not is entirely up to you.Why should i try harder? To convince who? I judge situation by situation, and neither party will have my vote for life.
But it seems not many can understand this way of thinking..except other floaters I guess. It’s funny how it is easier for you to try to make me fit in a category then to take my words for what they are.
I would have appreciated you explaining your idea of how things could be better instead of calling my analogy stupid. The previous speaker’s ideas must have been more similar to mine than to yours though. You have to draw a line somewhere. I hope they will find a solution to avoid such incidents in the future.
Did you hear the recording? Honestly,don’t you hear an ‘Iva’ as I do? I don’t know what you tell yourself to justify that?
Hope I was polite enough.
MIL EWROPA MA HA XEJN IL HADDIEM MALTI GAWDU IL MINISTRI U IS SINJURI