He doesn't play with people's lives, hej – except in the small matter of EU membership
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June 3, 2010 at 10:28am
Referendum? What referendum? Was there one? My god, I'd forgotten.
Joseph Muscat told the press confidently yesterday that he ‘never plays with people’s lives’.
Dear heavens, what a giant….Luqa monument.
He doesn’t play with people’s lives? Well, would he please explain what he was doing for all those years leading up to 2003, when he hared about the nation trying to convince us that we should NOT join the European Union.
Here’s a little memory jogger for Crocodile Dundee:
Vote No
Abstain
Hassar il-vot
His words – not mine.
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‘Prof. Zammit said Malta still had a long way to go in civil rights for homosexuals and that discussion on the topic had to be open to marriage and civil partnership for gays. “I am happy to say that I have a lot of gay friends,” Prof. Zammit said, adding he was never ashamed to be seen with them.'(from today’s The Times)
Didn’t we hear last night that Labour is not for gay marriages?
Let’s cut the crap; Anthony Zammit has no professorship so we should call him Doctor and not Mister as his speciality degrees are from Germany and not from the UK.
So believing that Malta should not have joined an emerging superstate is, to your mind, ‘playing with people’s lives’.
That’s quite a self-righteous statement, even coming from Malta’s foremost self-righteous scribbler. I could say the same thing for the oblivious idiots who believe the EU is God’s gift to Europeans.
Tell us again how ‘Iceland collapsed because they had not joined the euro,’ Daphne. Go on, make us laugh.
[Daphne – I think people would be far more amused at the sight – yet again – of your wife dressed up as a cow in an anti-EU protest, Kevin. Lucky for me I don’t have to do that, because I’m perfectly capable of using words instead.]
What in your hoofed knowledge was then to blame for Iceland’s collapse? One of the reasons why Iceland collapsed is that it is not a member of the EU, comfortable as they where thinking that their major trade partner UK outside Eurozone would in all circumstances be by their side – It turned out to be the very opposite!.
And what is it with this Superstate terminology: Given your self publicized circles I must assume it is your evident indulgence in conspiracy theories. You would have made a brilliant Sceptic philosopher were you not more interested in cattle and bovine matters!
The Icelandic BANKS collapsed, Micallef, and since banks are ‘too big to fail’, the Icelandic government stepped in with taxpayers’ money.
Do your research. Go and check WHY the banks failed qabel ma tpacpac fil-vojt.
Madonna tal-ghageb dawn in-nies! Kemm hallewkom cwiec jahasra!
And what may I ask lead to Greece’s collapse, since Big Brother EU was supposed to be looking after it?
By not joining the EU we would have had to dance to their music, Kev. We are part of Europe and our markets are in the EU.
So you don’t agree with Dr Joseph Muscat on this issue. Now he’s in favour and you’re not. I bet that if there are more people like you Joseph would change his view about this issue.
Kevin, as by now evident to most, again you have NO CLUE what you are writing about!
If I were you I would supplicate the “Madonna” for more urgent reasons, unless you’re about the material girl!
I must admit, Kevin always raises interesting points. In fact, I find the melt-down of the Icelandic banks unexplainable.
@ Grace – Greece did not collapse. If anything collapsed, it was the European Monetary System in Greece. And if anything is to eventually collapse, that will be the euro – something they would not allow to happen, for richer or for poorer.
Alternatively, Greece could default – which means its debt would be restructured. This, they say, will not happen, hence the bailout – i.e. burdening Greece with more debt leading to further crisis. This is all well and good both for the global bankers and for the EU. The Commission now tells us that EMU (European Monetary Union) does not work without fiscal political union. Hence the EU is now pushing for a step that brings us closer to fiscal union: “EU economic governance” of member states’ budgets (by EU bureaucrats, of course, other than ‘peer reviews’).
@ Gahan, I know that Malta was allowed no other option but to join. To go into that, however, would be a drag. The least I expect is a little awareness of what is really happening. As matters stand, the Maltese media remain asleep even when their big mentors overseas let hot issues slip. As for the population in general, most are even worse than Daphne. No one is critical of ANY EU affair. Fact is: no one knows nada! Not even how and when EU decisions affect us and our pockets. Il-veru kaz tal-biki!
@ Ciccio – here is the short version of why the three Icelandic banks collapsed. Some global bankers allowed them unlimited access to ‘sub-prime’ loans with low interest rates (ghax kien hemm bir-rimi through derivative banking). The get-rich-quick Icelandic bankers thought they could re-lend it to the whole world, presto and risk free… and they did… The Maltese banks chose not to play casino banking, especially with quadrillions’ worth of worthless assets floating across the globe. That’s the consequence of fractional reserve banking, as I mentioned in previous posts.
@ Micallef – you need more than a clue, that’s for sure.
…and by the way, if you hadn’t noticed, the media have been reporting about the Bilderberg Group meeting in Sitges, Spain. This is unprecedented – the reporting, I mean – for anyone interested, Google-NEWS ‘Bilderberg’.
It was triggered from the European Parliament.
Kevin when you get there give us shout! I’ll leave a note with my grand grandsons!
Given you comments to Grace, Gahan and Ciccio I wouldn’t be surprised it takes you longer, unless you have insider information from Bilderberg.
Kev, you got the explanation for the Icelandic banks right. If I remember well, there were some low-interest Japanese loans involved as well.
However, mine was, as often, a sarcastic comment, playing on the choice of words. I told you before. You take the world too seriously.
I suggest you do not go home to watch telly in the next “Tour de burau.”
Whoever told you it was an anti-EU protest must have visited you in a dream. That was the traditional, so-called ‘tour de bureau’ in the European Parliament. It’s a fun thing, like carnival, but miserable people usually opt out and go home to watch the telly.
I agree with you, however, that you don’t really need to dress up as a cow.
kev, so why do you think Iceland collapsed while Greece didn’t?
This guy still continues to bug me. Guess I will just have to accept being the ‘buggee’ while King Kev continues as the ‘bugger’.
Good idea, Purdie. If you like being a ‘buggee’, as you say, do carry on. And since this is entirely your own game, you can play both roles yourself.
The EU is still very far off from being a cohesive entity. Let’s hope things don’t get to a head before Europeans manage to get their act together.
If there’s a conflagration anywhere around EU borders, the only decent military response could only come from NATO — and the French don’t like that much, rightly so. It makes the EU subservient to US foreign policy and economic interests. Look what happened to the UK’s long-standing policy of being the US’s lap-dog… European countries haven’t been able to project power and influence since the Suez crisis when Eisenhower reigned in the French, British and Israeli forces from interfering in Egypt.
We have no choice Kev, either the EU starts taking control of its geopolitical interests with its combined might or play second fiddle to other emerging powers and the USA.
reigned > reined
there I boldly go…
The Soviet Union was very strong and powerful, Sur Borg. Tell me how that benefited Soviet citizens. You have believed too many lies to see the world as it really is.
Yeah, what does he play with then, a digeridoo
From the looks of it, he prefers to play with the boomerang, but apparently he is not aware that it has a tendency to come back, and may hit you straight in the face.
@kev – It was playing with people’s lives because the whole basis for Labour’s opposition was the fact that PN was lobbying for membership.
Also there was no real foreign policy strategy. Had it been a real policy battle rather than a petty they-are-doing-it-so-it-must -be-bad matter, then maybe Labour would have won more respect at least.
Funny that a lot of things Labour said at t he time were proved right. mainly that we were not prepared financially and politically to join. Whilst we all know that EU is not the Paradise PN presented.
Sweeping statement: check
Lack of arguments/statistics to back it up: check
Biased: check
Anonymous: check
Intellectually challenged: probably
Any semi-intelligent ape knew that the EU is not a paradise. The ones who voted YES to gain access to a Utopian fairyland are even more foolish than you.
I voted YES for a variety of reasons, all based on actual research and my short time working in Brussels in the early 90s. I’m guessing that you, Grace, just followed Sant(ian) logic. Baaaaa
@Grace – a few braincells would tell anyone on this island to always tone down whatever the parties say. If anyone thought the EU was going to be a silver bullet for all our problems, well then those are the type of people who, had they been born in a different family, they would have been die-hard Labour. I believe I referred to them as tigieg in another post.
Grace you’re just full of it. While your Leader has declared that the EU subject is water under the bridge, you’re still moaning and groaning- what a bore.
Not prepared! who was not prepared? And I suppose you would have left it to your beloved Labour Party to get us prepared, just like they were prepared for the last election- u hallinha Grace.
What Labour, Camilleri? Labour weren’t even sure whether they were coming or going.
Che?
@ Kev. EU membership was highly important for Malta and also the Eurozone. This has been confirmed by professional people in Malta. The problem with Labour is that their party is split on these issue. Now Joseph Muscat, after all that lobbying against membership. is stating that he wants us to be the best in the EU. However, many party roots are against that statement. Do they know what they want? This really makes us laugh Kev.
Riya try and explain that to Grace, because she still thinks we’re DOOMED.
@ Riya – “This has been confirmed by professional people in Malta.” – iddahhaqx nies bik.
You need some updating, Riya: Labour is not split at all. It is totally and conclusively europhile, ergo, ignorant of euro-facts.
It’s 2010, Riya, not 2003. They know very well what they want.
Labour is not split? kev, which planet are you on?
@ Kev
Kindly do us AND yourself a favour…
… Pull your lips over your head, and swallow.
Don’t forget to remove the tin foil hat. You might choke on it and die. On second thoughts….
@Kev. ‘Iddahhaqx nies bik’
Mela staqsi lill-tad Dockyard, il-benniena tal-Labour, habib. Ma ridtux l-EU biex thallu id-Dockyard miftuha b’sussidju ta 70,000 Euro kulljum u tkomplu tintaxxaw lill-poplu. Tghidu ghal Gonzi li m’ghandux widnejh mal-poplu.
Daqs kemm ilhom jighdu il-Laboristi li mill-EU ma’ hadna xejn. Tista’ tghidli min kienu dawn in-nies tal-Labour favur l-EU? Ghax anke fil-parlament ewropej hlif hsara m’ghamiltux, inkluz Joseph Muscat. Qed nghidlek bhal per ezempju il-flus tar-recikklagg ta’ Sant Antnin my friend.
Kemm ghadek lura, hi – qas jisthoqlok risposta. Kompli emmen fic-cucati. Ma tkunx wahdek.
Kevin
Fadal cucati fis is-suq ghax mid-dehra ghandek kollezzjoni papali!
Mill-EU hadna mill-inqas: costume, Friesian cow, 1.
Ghadu ghandkom kev? Issa li ergajt bdejt naghtiha ghall-wild partying ghandi bzonn kostum daqstant iehor wild. Forsi ninnegozjaw prezz.