Has the cat got Joseph's tongue?
Gaddafi, Mintoff and AST - back in the days when all of Europe bar Malta treated the first like a pariah, which is just what he deserved.
Joseph Muscat was very keen, last summer, to tell us all about his 90-minute meeting with Muammar Gaddafi, when he trotted along there with old Gaddafi acolyte Sceberras Trigona.
Maltastar was VERY impressed. Super One was in raptures. The coverage was wall to wall.
But now there’s silence. Presumably, Joseph and AST are glued to the drawing-board with that useless Marisa and the Poison Dwarf, wondering what best to say or whether silence might just be as golden as the years under Labour.
As for George ‘God Forbid We Should Join The European Union’ Vella, the foreign minister in Joseph’s kitchen cabinet, he is keeping his lips zipped as tightly as he did in court when asked to say what Ganni Psaila told him about the killing of Raymond Caruana.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/9404097.stm
Labour is trying (unsuccesfully) to cancel its dirty past from Maltese minds. Glorious past indeed.
I was never a keen admirer of Colonel Gaddafi, but why don’t you comment on the recent visit of our Prime Minister to Libya and embracing Gaddafi and inviting him to officially visit Malta.He was a friend until few days ago…. now we see him as !!!!
[Daphne – I’ve done so, several times. But then I forget that you people can’t read.]
I CERTAINLY DON’T READ YOUR ARTICLES FULL OF HATRED AND CHARACTER ASSASSINATION THE MALTA INDEPENDENT WILL SELL MORE IF COLUMNISTS OF YOUR PATHETIC TYPE ARE IGNORED.
Mela x’qieghed taghmel hawn?
What is it with you people and your Caps Lock buttons?
That would explain why you missed the very point you tried to make earlier.
Oh, and you can release your caps lock by pressing ‘shift’.
Mela ghalfejn staqsejt u x’qed taghmel hawn?
Joseph Muscat is indeed conspicuous by his silence. This may be a good thing though – he’d probably just say something stupid.
Iddoqqx trombi. Hu veru li Joseph Muscat gidra imma haddiehor jitkellem minn wara. Ara x’qed jghidu sorsi diplomatici dwar Malta. Minn Reuters din:
18.04 GMT: European nations considering sanctions against Libya are being blocked by states including Italy and Malta, diplomatic sources have told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmu-1R_m7z0
This video explains it all
Members and Honorary Members of the Xirka Ġieħ ir-Repubblika Members
Prof. Sir Anthony Mamo, S.G. (deceased) 13.12.92
His Grace Mgr. Joseph Mercieca, S.G. 13.12.95
His Lordship Nicholas J Cauchi, S.G. 13.12.05 (deceased)
Honorary Members
H.E. Colonel Muammar Gaddhafi, S.G. 05.12.75
Another one.
H.E. Mr Kim Il Sung, S.G. 01.08.85
All European leaders including Italian, French and British politicians and the EU had meetings, contacts and good relations with Gaddafi. This does not mean that they approved all his actions and policies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/2011/02/arab_awakening_europes_unclean.html
Do you remember the Gaddafi posters in the 70s celebrating his visits to Malta? What about those posters depicting a dark hand shaking a white hand with ‘blood brothers’ (or something to that effect) written underneath?
It’s ok to kick il-barrani tan-nemmex which is still obvious in Joseph Muscat’s absence on days commemorating the fallen but his lot didn’t mind brown-nosing THAT barrani. Remember the compulsory Arabic lessons at school and the green passports?
This should be an embarrassment now…but who am I kidding?
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080819/local/mintoff-wins-gaddafi-prize-for-human-rights
It wasn’t an embarrassment. It was right and fitting that Mintoff should win a human rights prize from Gaddafi.
Labour is busy preparing its massive advertising campaign. Now they have more shocking pictures that they can use in their billboard. One of the billboards will say: If you are in Libya and you see a fighter jet just about to attack you, it is definitely not a Mirage.
Wasn’t Gaddafi coming to Malta as a head of state next month?
Is Joseph Muscat inviting him to his house for a swim?
Honours bestowed on Gaddafi should be withdrawn
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110222/local/committee-should-be-set-up-to-consider-stripping-gaddafi-of-honours-former-mp
Is-soltu. Do we need to set up a committee? Just get George Abela to sign on the dotted line and strip him of his honours.
Viewer discretion advised.
The clip at the end are soldiers burned for defying orders to shoot at unarmed civilians
http://machahir123.blogspot.com/
It was sad and so ironic to hear, on last night’s local news, Libyans taking part in the Malta protests angrily shouting of Gaddafi’s regime that (said in Maltese):
‘We can only buy clothes that he (Gaddafi) brings for us! The food we eat – only what he brings for us!’
You know I’m SURE I’ve heard that before somewhere!?
You heard that during the Golden Years.
Joseph Muscat may be stumped for words but his followers certainly aren’t as we can see from these Maltastar comments. Block letters are de rigueur of course.
d.o.m. – 21 February 2011 15:49
WAKE UP MALTA AND FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE NORTH AFRICAN COUNTRIES. WHERE IS THE FIGHTING SPIRIT THAT WON US THE GEORGE CROSS? GET RID OF THIS ARROGANT AND UNACCOUNTABLE ADMINISTRATION ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Jane Busuttil – 21 February 2011 20:38
d.o.m. I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.
IT’S ABOUT TIME THAT THE MALTESE PEOPLE TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF ALL THESE PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY REVOLTING AGAINST THEIR DICTATORS.
IT’S ABOUT TIME THAT WE ALSO REVOLT AGAINST THE GONZI DICTATORSHIP.
alec – 21 February 2011 17:52
THE HISTORY WE NEVER FORGET IT…WHY? IN THE BEGINNING OF PL GOVT AND HARD TIMES IN MALTA ,THAT PL HAD A GOOD RELATION WITH LIBYA ,PN ALWAYS SAY TO THE PEOPLE THAT PL IS FRIENDS OF AFRICAN GOATS !! AH SO AFTER 87 THEY TRY TO GET RID AND BE FRIENDS OF AFRICAN GOATS TOO….AH NOW IN MOMENT WITH THESE AFRICAN PROTESTS AGAINST THE DICTATORSHIPS OF THEIR OWN LEADERS , THEY CONDEMN THESE ESP TO LIBYA …..AH WHAT A HISTORY DEAR FRIENDS …NOW ARE ALSO FRIENDS WITH AFRICAN GOATS..SO THE PROVERB SAY DONT SAY NOTHING BEFORE THEY TELL YOU . WHAT A SENSE OF GOVT WE HAVE ? IPOCTRICY GOVT ….THATS MALTA MUST MAKE BECAUSE WE ARE THE SAME IN DICTATORSHIP MORE THEN 25 YEARS WITH THESE MISERABLE GOVT , HERE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY HAVE TATTOOS,HIGH TEMPERAMENT ,RUDE PEOPLE ETC….AND WE DONT MAKE NOTHING ….EVEN A SILENT PROTEST …SO WE ARE HAPPY. SEE WHAT THEY ARE MAKING IN NORTH AFRICA. THEY HAVE MONEY BUT NOT FOR THE PEOPLE AND WE DONT HAVE NOTHING AND WE ARE FOOTED FROM THIS GOVT.
Ara veru Malta helsitha bi zbrixx. Ahjar Toni Abela joqghod jghallem lil dawn in-nies xi jfissru certu kliem. Dittatorjat u qed jiktbu li jridu. Joseph Muscat imissu jisthi mhux jifrah li dawn in-nies jappoggjaw lil PL.
I weep for our future.
In-nies tal-Partit ta’ Joseph.
It’s as if they have forgotten their own party’s past and Mintoff’s relationship with the Colonel. Oh, but I forgot, the PL always tells us not to take any notice of the past in their get-out-of-jail-free card “look to the future”.
Note to those who pasted those comments: it was your party that built those ties with Gaddafi in the first place. It was Mintoff who wanted Malta to end up like Libya. We have freedom, so stop deluding yourselves.
Imagine they decide to take to the streets and “overthrow” our government. How embarrassing would that be. Europe will laugh at them for being such babies and then criticise them for making a mockery of the serious events taking place in countries that actually have a dictator to overthrow.
Grow up, guys! Do you think they know that we know they are making this all up just to convince themselves that they are having a rough time?
Sigh!
I think Joseph is meeting with KMB trying to figure out what to do now about the Ghaddafi Prize.
The Colonel is one of the infamous people awarded the Gieh ir-Repubblika by Mintoff’s government.
Not from timesofmalta.com…
http://www.lastampa.it/_web/cmstp/tmplrubriche/giornalisti/grubrica.asp?ID_blog=204&ID_articolo=360&ID_sezione=&sezione=
A fine photo of the golden years.
The mad, the bad and the ugly – you judge who’s who.
The Blood Brothers themselves – remember, Troy?
And they tell us: ahh, such glorious years….the Little Green Book sprouting everywhere, compulsory Arabic in school, various invasions of oddly dressed people (the Ta’ Xbiex garden area is a vivid memory), reciprocal state visits, the oddest of buddies in North Korea….sigh! O tempore! O mores!
Uck.
Gaddafi live on Sky, BBC and CNN right now.
Libyan ship spotted off Malta coast …
Breaking news Al Jazeera
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080801/local/gaddafi-holds-second-unscheduled-meeting-with-fenech-adami
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/muammar-gaddafi/lawrence-gonzi-steps-up-for-gaddafi-%E2%80%98we%E2%80%99re-ready-to-do-anything-for-eu-to-hamme
Jien nixtieq inkun naf x’kien isir minn dawk il-Libjani li jghixu f’Malta u qed jipprotestaw kontra Gaddafi u l-atrocitajiet gravi li qed iwettaq fuq hutu il-Libjani l-ohra kieku kien hemm gvern Laborista?
Qrajt ukoll x’imkien fejn xi hadd qal li fis-70s, meta kien hemm Gvern Laborista, im n’ Alla sibna lill-Gaddafi biex il-pajjiz seta jibqa ghaddej, u dan qal ukoll li tajjeb li nibdew naraw l-istorja mis-60s.
Vera ghandna biex niftahru jekk gejna bzonn dittatur din il-kwalita biex inhallu l-pajjiz jibqa ghaddej! Fejn jitkellem Joseph Muscat mela dak jaqbillu jiftah halqu f’dawn ic-cirkostanzi! Mur ara kif jaqbzu fuqu shabu stess l-ewwel wiehed AST!
check out what is being posted in Malta Today:
http://maltatoday.com.mt/news/national/Libya-revolts-Gaddafi
“kif jghidu, dak li tisraq ma tgawdihx. Hekk gralu l-Gonz. Seraq l-elezzjoni u Alla ma jhallasx bin-nhar ta’ Sibt u ma hamilx u se jkompli jaqlalu l-problemi tad-dinja kollha sakemm jitlaq Fittex itlaq Gonz u sejjah elezzjoni ghax mhux se jkollok l-ebda mistrieh talli sraqt l-elezzjoni. Maltipur2”
Imma dawn ta’ vera, dawn in-nies?
Unbelievable.
I weep for my country.
‘Gaddafi live on Sky, BBC and CNN right now’
Yes, reminds me of Mintoff’s and KMB’s rambling speeches, full of threats and no substance at all.
Almenu Gaddafi qal li ser jimxi mal-Kostituzzjoni Libjana, mhux bhal Mintoff, ghax dak kien jigi jitnejjek.
Let me get this off my chest. How does KMB feel today, having saved Gaddafi’s life in 1986 when the Americans bombed Gaddafi’s house? What if Malta had not interfered?
That attack was aimed at a leader sponsoring terrorism through out Europe, killing innocent civilians such as the attack on Berlin night club.
Perhaps the world today would have been a much safer place if KMB hadn’t shot his mouth off. How do Labourites feel today seeing hundreds of Libyan people being butchered by Gaddafi’s henchmen when they know that it’s only thanks to one of their great leaders from the Golden Years that he’s still alive to have them killed?
Thanks to KMB and Co. we now are witnessing the bloodiest reprisals against protestors that we have seen so close to home. May Joseph Muscat enlighten us as to what he thinks about this glorious past. Or maybe his international secretary Alex Sceberras Trigona will do so instead.
My thoughts exactly.
And Sceberras Trigona was minister for foreign affairs at the time, busily torpedoing CSCE summits.
I think (JM) keeping his mouth shut has to be the most sensible thing the has done in the past few weeks.
Let’s hope the cat doesn’t let go too soon.
‘The Colonel is one of the infamous people awarded the Gieh ir-Repubblika by Mintoff’s government’.
Vera tajba din Maria, prosit.
Seems like it’s all over in Libya. It appears that the regime is in control and cracking down heavily on opponents. Sadly for the Libyan people it has ended like Iran for them. More pain and suffering is the only thing they can look forward to.
On TVM news they interviewed some of the people coming in from Libya. What strikes me as odd is that the Maltese ones seemed to shrug it off reporting seeing only such things as a few burning skips, some noisy people and so on whereas the other nationalites looked shaken and described a far more serious situation.
Do we Maltese have a different way of seeing such things or what?
[Daphne – Yes. That’s why Mintoff could get away with what he did, and that’s why Karmenu Vella and those other hideous dinosaurs can make a comeback.]
Fewer brain cells and unconnected neural networks – they can’t absorb information at the same rate as those ‘other nationalities’ which, I surmise, is a euphemism for ‘more intelligent’.
EU Observer is quoted as saying …”
With the UK’s Associated Press agency reporting on Tuesday (22 February) that the streets of Tripoli “are littered with the bodies of scores of protesters shot dead by security forces,” the EU report notes that Malta in 2009 granted licences and actually shipped €79.7 million of small arms to the regime. Belgium granted €18 million of licences and Bulgaria €3.7 million. ” unquote
http://euobserver.com/9/31853
Can we please have some light on who in Malta actually was involved in shipping EUR79.7 worth of small arms to the Gaddafi regime?
Joey’s public analysis of the ongoing bloody debacle in one of our closest neighbours’ country is the best he can concoct.
Zilch.
No one can deny that he is, thankfully, fully aware of his limitations.
The same applies to the shadow foreign minister.
Very well done indeed.
There was an unfortunate, regrettable and reluctant “propping up” of the Ghaddafi oppressive dictatorship that was excusable (if not justifiable) for commercial and economic reasons .
Mintoff’s Malta had the unenviable distinction of propping up Ghaddafi additionally for ideological reasons as part and parcel of the MLP’s anti-American, anti Western and pro AAPSO stance.
We now must put on sack cloth and ashes and to beat our chest in sorrow and anger as this recipient of our “Gieh ir-Republika” slaughters his own countrymen with the aid of foreign mercenaries, whilst blaming everyone else.
“this recipient of our “Gieh ir-Republika”
Come again?
[Daphne – We decorated the monster.]
What? Who did? When?
[Daphne – http://archive.maltatoday.com.mt/2005/05/22/t10.html (last couple of paragraphs).]
I’m speechless.
Spot on.
@John Lanzon
I only buy The Malta Independent on Thursdays and Sundays.
Guess why.
You’re bewitched, Herbie, that’s what it is………..as we all are, and loving it.
Just saw Joe Grima on TVM News harping on how Libya helped us financially in 1971 and oil at rock-bottom prices; how after May 1987 we started looking towards Europe and the EU and loosened the Libyan joined-at-the-hip connection. He reminded me of a 60s film: “When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth”.
Lanqas qieghed jitkellem Gonzi ser jpaxih Joseph ma tarax Daphne and co.ltd.
[Daphne – Possibbli li m’hemmx Laburist wiehed li jaf jikteb u jirranguna suret in-nies? Il-kitba taghkom qisa ta’ qabda imbecilli.]
Anthony Farrugia,
Joe Grima qal wkoll illi Gaddafi kien itina il-petrol irhis, imbaghad ahna konna nixtruh bi prezz gholi u il-profit kien il-gvern ihallas is-servizzi socjali u children allowance etc.
Jahasra kemm kienu jafu jaghmlu l-ekonomija tajba dawn in-nies.
Dnub li issa bolqu u ma ghadomx zghar ghax konna naghmlu success bihom.
U issa Joe Muscat irid jerga jinvolvihom fit-terrimot tal-partit progressiv?
ommi maaaaa
Ara vera hawn l-injoranza f’dan il-pajjiz biex issue bhal din dawwartuha politika partiggjana.
Min jaf il-poplu Libjan innocenti minn xix ghaddej bhalissa specjament dawk it-tfal.
Mela insejtu ftit ilu meta Joseph Muscat qal li niehdu vantagg turistiku mill-Egittu u mit-Tunezija hadtuha qatta bla habel kontrih u issa ghax ma qal xejn se tehduha kontrih ukoll?
[Daphne – It’s not a choice between saying something stupid and saying nothing at all, Chris. How about if he says something intelligent?]
Ghal Egizzjani u t-Tunezini haqritkom qalbkom? Ghal Libjani le allura? Ara vera Nazzjonalisti kollha xorta ta. Immiskom tisthu titkellmu hekk fuq poplu li ghaddej min martirju.
[Daphne – So here’s another Labour supporter who can’t read. This blog supports the Libyan people, Chris. Try reading some of the posts.]
Nahseb li inti ma tafx taqra daphne ghax jien ma ghidtx hekk. il-punt tieghi hu li f’din l-affari ma ghandux x’jaqsam Joseph Muscat. Int biex taqbad ma dak li hu labour taqbad ma kollox. X’ghandu x’jaqsam ma dan kollu.
[Daphne – Int tghix fi-dinja, jew le? Kif jista jkun li dak li se jkun prim ministru m’ghandux x’jaqsam ma dak li hu ghaddej fil-Libya? Mela hu tajjeb biss ghall-giti sa Tripoli ma’ AST? http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=11015 Ghaliex mar hemm jekk m’ghandux x’jaqsam?]
I think that Col. Gaddafi’s lead in the revolt back in his days was a remarkable task, he set off with good intentions that somehow he threw out of the window as he went along. I admire mintoff for the stand he took back in those days, if it were’nt for him we’d still be living on our knees in the shadow of some far away government. TImes change, some people don’t
Mintoff wanted integration with Britain, not independence.
Gaddafi wanted absolute power and appointed himself representative of the people.
Neither of them had good intentions for anyone but themselves.
Times change. Some people don’t.
‘Min jaf il-poplu Libjan innocenti minn xix ghaddej bhalissa specjament dawk it-tfal.’
Mela ma nafux Chris! Minn sparar, terturi, gas tad-dmuh, u qtil bl-addocc.
Dan barra dak li ma nafux! Dan kollu minhabba dittatura li ilha ghaddejja 42 sena, u l-poplu dejjem kellu joqoghd kwiet ghax jaqla jew jinqatel min-nies tar-regim ta’ Gaddafi. Zewg kurunelli stess li gew Malta qalu li kellom ordni biex jisparaw fuq id-demostranti min fuq ajruplan ‘fighter’ tal-gwerra.
Ahna kontra id-dittatura u mhux kontra il-Libjani. Nahseb int qed iddawwar kollox politika u mhux Daphne. Smajtu lil Gaddafi jghid li min ma jobdix l-ordnijiet tar-regim jigi maghlaq? Smajtu jghid li jahraq il-bjar taz-zejt? Dan nahseb hu mignun mhux in-nies Libjani.
Dik hajja sabiha! Ghax titkellem ghad drittijiet tieghek jghidlek li int fis-sakra! Trid tghix hekk int? Ghax titkellem ghad-drittijiet tieghek tigi iffucillat? Nahseb mhux qed tifhem l-istorja sewwa habib. Aqra sew x’qed isir.
Rita naqbel mieghek perfettament. Il-punt tieghi hu li f’din l-affari qatt ma ghandha naghmluha politika ghax ma ghandu x’jaqsam xejn.
Ghala issemma Joseph Muscat f’din l-affari?
Ghax ma tkellimx? Meta tkellem xorta ikkritikajtuh. Mela allura nghidu li Lawrence Gonzi ghax iltaqa mieghu ftit ilu nghidu kontrih ukoll issa? Mela jekk il-prim ministru mar jiltaqa ma Ghaddafi u stiednu Malta mhux sinjal li jista jsir xi tip ta ftehim ta gid ghal Malta? Se nibqu sejrin hekk f’dan il-pajjiz?
[Daphne – Chris, uza ftit mohhok. Bir-ragunament tieghek, qisek qed tghid li Joseph Muscat ahjar joqghod kwiet ghax l-alternattiva hi li jghid xi haga stupida u bla sens.]
And just remind us Daphne, when was the last time your sugar daddy Gonzi visited Libya and had a meeting with Muammar Gaddafi? And remind us, who did Gonzi want to sell Air Malta your national airline to?
[Daphne – My God, your lot are thick. Repeat after me: YOU HAVE TO BE STUPID TO VOTE LABOUR. How did you reach the conclusion that attempts were made to sell Air Malta to Libya? Ah yes, MALTASTAR SAID SO. Un-be-liev-able. Please don’t worry me by reminding me that you get to help decide how the country is run, once every five years. Let me guess: you voted No to EU membership. Am I right or am I right?]
Ah that’s it, it’s only truthful if it appears in the Independent! But then you write for the Independent don’t you and everyone knows how truthful you are in the things you write. Guess that’s why you have a season ticket for court. By the way on the subject of court do try and dress in something respectable looking in future, I mean it really doesn’t do you any favours when you turn up looking like a tart.
[Daphne – Same old, same old Labour ‘reasoning’: lose an argument against somebody sharper and more well-informed than you are, and resort to childish taunts. I end up in court BECAUSE I’m truthful in what I write. ‘Dress in something respectable’: you mean ‘wear’ and not ‘dress in’. You get dressed, and from that moment on, you’re wearing your clothes. Then you undress. As for looking like a tart, you must have mistaken me for the magistrate. The trouble with you, I suspect, is that you think Malta’s appalling dress sense and lack of style is ‘respectable’. You obviously don’t get around much. Good luck.]
Daphne – don’t waste your time with this a..hole.. he’s not worth it.
Beowulf is really rude apart from being stupid.