Joseph has a long way to go. Hasn’t the peasant behind him been told that mobile phones are supposed to be either silent or switched off when somebody else is trying to deliver a speech?
The fella, right behind the oracle, answering the phone, takes the prize. A typical Maltese yob, rude and without the slightest idea of what make good manners.
Mind you, Joseph should have stopped and waited till he was finished. But I guess our Joseph was chuffed to bits to be with the pseudo Yanks.
Phili Grech, how wrong you are. The so-called red crosses were only used during the Labour years. The man in question emigrated in 1973 during Mintoff’s REGIME.
That’s a typical uncouth PL ‘hamallu’. Look at the way he is dressed, no shirt but a t-shirt under his jacket, his protruding tummy.
He reminds me of the Maltese men I used to see hanging round in Soho in London in the 70s and 80s. I wonder if these men moved from London to New York now.
My . . . how the audience was held in thrall The bloke behind Dear Leader clearly had other things on his mind.
And what about that bubble-wrap gift wrapping of the memento? Not to mention the incongruity between the speech about non-partisan politics and the purely partisan freebies?
Was Joseph offended that the ‘holiday’ was too short, given how he implied that the organisers should have extended the stay? Every time he opens his mouth he f,,,s it up.
If you were not born yesterday, you should know that Labour Governments in Malta distribute wealth that Labour governments generate. You should worry if JM will be distributing what the PN generated; how may billions in debt? I lost count.
Oh, I definitely remember those glorious years, black-market televisions and all. Your type hate it now because making a living entails thinking and taking a risk. You have a yearning to go back into history where the state did all. Look where that got us.
“wealth that Labour governments generate” – How, may I ask, would such wealth have been generated? By nationalising privately-owned enterprises, perhaps?
Wealth? All I remember was a closed university, Korpi, second hand power station, second hand telephone exchanges, corruption and violence . . . oh, and no water either.
That’s because barristers or sollicitors are not doctors of law – that’s why it never happens in the UK. Equally, anyone who holds a doctorate, should be called doctor irrespective of his profession.
Perhaps you ought to do a bit more whilst your standing by looking, than just looking interested.
[Daphne – I think the essential argument, Etienne, is that lawyers should not be considered doctors of law. The reality is that their six years plus one thesis do not go beyond Masters level, in period of study, work required and certainly not depth of research. The law course is and was replete with very weak students who still somehow made it through. They would never have managed a doctorate (without a little help from their friends).]
Medical and dental practitioners have their names in a register held legally by the Medical Council and pay an annual fee to have their name retained on the said register. There is nothing similar for lawyers.
Funny how Maltese New Yorkers look even more like peasants than the Maltese themselves.
[Daphne – They don’t. What you’re seeing there is first and second generation Laburisti from the urban working-class. They look and behave no different to their brothers, sisters, cousins and Zija Mer in Malta. Smart Maltese don’t go to party clubs, not PN and especially not Labour, either in Malta or in New York. However, I am astounded as you are that they can cross the Atlantic, live their lives in an entirely different society, and remain as shabby and uncouth as they were in Malta. Those are things they can change, unlike their stumpy limbs.]
Just for the record… that is not a party club but the Maltese Centre and the guys shown are not all Laburisti. In agreement with the rest of the comment.
It is not a party club, but a Maltese club. What’s wrong in that? Let them get together once a week and do whatever they want. Taf x’naf, li they are living their lives there away from all this crap, u int, bil-qrid kollu li teqred hawn Malta tibqa .. why don’t you go to the UK for instance?
[Daphne – They seem to have taken their ‘crap’ with them. Why go live in New York to hang around at a Maltese centre looking like you’re out for the afternoon in Hamrun? And it might not be a Labour Party club, but who else but Laburisti would have gone to listen to the Labour leader? That’s the thing: the identity of those immigrants is not ‘Maltese’ but ‘Laburist Malti’.]
It is the same thing as you go to live in a peasant area of Malta and still think that being from Sliema makes you superior. People like you, we call them ‘Mejtin bil-Guh’ in Maltese same as the Italian ‘Morti di Fame’. You are just nice and beautiful where it shows, and rotten on the inside.
Believe me .. they do lose that identity of “Laburisti Maltin” or “Nazzjonalisti Maltin”. I have relatives in the US and they don’t care whether Gonzi or Joseph visits, as long as it is someone from Malta.
It is Sliema which is now ‘a peasant area’, because people like you, who think they are moving up th world by getting a flat there, have moved in en masse. Meanwhile, the smart people have left in droves.
The yob with the phone is the so-called President of the Labour Party in New York. I’m sure he will be taking his Leader’s words to heart and following them to the letter. From this day forth no more partisan politics in the Maltese community! Yeah right.
A close examination of the video shows that Joseph was speaking in Astoria, NY. This is a neighbourhood in Queens borough, not some central square of Manhattan.
With hindsight, this probably means that Maltastar was probably right in its choice of the picture of the Manhattan night skyline in a recent issue: it could be the view from the window of some Astoria apartment.
Mind you, the place is named John Jacob Jacob Astor, one of the wealthiest Americans in history. I think he got a mention in the movie Titanic.
This is getting a bit childish, to put it mildly. If you take the subway, Astoria is 15 minutes away from Central Park. Fenech Adami and Lawrence Gonzi always visited the place and said a few words when they went to NY to read their speech to the General Assembly. Similarly for any visiting cabinet minister and their entourages. It’s definitely not the Union Club or the Casino Maltese; the ambiance is more akin to that of a kazin tal-banda; so if one wants to be snotty, fine. However I’m told they have some really good pastizzi.
El Topo, it is childish indeed. In fact, Joseph Muscat told the NY community in Astoria that they should not be divided about politics, but we, on this little island, where there is nowhere to run from each other, can be politically divided.
“Id-dinja qeghdha tickien” we were told at school in the late 80s but it seems that Muscat doesn’t realise that.
Doesn’t he know how easy it is nowadays to keep contact with rest of the world? If Malta were at war the Maltese in the USA wouldn’t know. As if there are no means of communication between the USA and Malta.
“Imnalla li kien il-profeta Muscat li mar ibassar il-bxara t-tajba”.
It was an invitation by the American government. Another one of those familiarisation visits fully-paid by the US citizen, perhaps?
As for the purpose or agenda, did Labour ever have either one or the other?
This is how maltastar announced the visit on 3 April 2011(disclaimer: I just copied and pasted from their website).
“Joseph Muscat leaves for U.S.A.
Opposition leader Dr. Joseph Muscat today left Malta for the United States.
During his visit he will meet with state department officials in Capitol Hill, Washington.
He will also be visiting the state of New York where he will meet with the Maltese and Gozitan community.
Dr Muscat was invited to the United Stated by the American Government.”
1. We wait for wealth to be generated
2. When wealth is generated it has to be distributed in the best possible way
3. Wealth should not remain “among the few”.
Needless to say, this is not a set of original thoughts, and one would have believed that such thoughts had been consigned to the dustbin of history.
What Muscat seems to ignore is that his ideology spells the death sentence of initiative.
Oh dear, wealth, wealth, wealth, they never mention how wealth will be generated. Do they intend to do as they did in the 70s and 80s, taking it from Dick to give it to Harry, so as to get Harry’s praise and votes?
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the Lejber Party has not disclosed whom Muscat met with at the State Department, and which members of the National Security Council?
Maltastar did disclose that, in NY, Joseph Muscat met Professor Joseph Stiglitz, a recipient of the Nobel Prize in Economics.
Prof. Stiglitz is famous for his work on “efficiency wages.” After his abandonment of the concept of the “living wage” – which after all is an old Catholic concept – Joseph Muscat may have thought that “efficiency wages” would be a suitable substitute – mhux l-aqwa li “wages”!
When he went to Australia, he told the people gathered in the club that there are 20.000 people on the poverty line in Malta, and he is trying to figure out how he can provide a plane and get the old people to Malta to see their ‘old country’. People hearing him said “he must be joking’ because it can never be, it requires lots of money, doctors nurses
and so on. They said ‘he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Dejjem prevedibbli immens. U meta jipprova jghid xi haga ‘tieghu’, biex forsi jaghmel hoss jaqa’ waqgha ghan-n**k u filghaxija jsib lil opportunist Joe jaghmel programm biex ibengilhielu! Tal-emigranti u t-Taljani l-ahhar ezempju…
Courtesy of the State Department … next US Ambassador might well be a Catholic priest.
Joseph has a long way to go. Hasn’t the peasant behind him been told that mobile phones are supposed to be either silent or switched off when somebody else is trying to deliver a speech?
The fella, right behind the oracle, answering the phone, takes the prize. A typical Maltese yob, rude and without the slightest idea of what make good manners.
Mind you, Joseph should have stopped and waited till he was finished. But I guess our Joseph was chuffed to bits to be with the pseudo Yanks.
I suspect he’s a PL worker or something…
100% right. Probably he had to emigrate because he had a red cross besides his name when he applied for a job during a PN administration.
Phili Grech, how wrong you are. The so-called red crosses were only used during the Labour years. The man in question emigrated in 1973 during Mintoff’s REGIME.
That’s a typical uncouth PL ‘hamallu’. Look at the way he is dressed, no shirt but a t-shirt under his jacket, his protruding tummy.
He reminds me of the Maltese men I used to see hanging round in Soho in London in the 70s and 80s. I wonder if these men moved from London to New York now.
Ma, tal-biza. A bunch of janitors in suits, and Malta’s big ‘GIDRA’ at the BIG APPLE.
My . . . how the audience was held in thrall The bloke behind Dear Leader clearly had other things on his mind.
And what about that bubble-wrap gift wrapping of the memento? Not to mention the incongruity between the speech about non-partisan politics and the purely partisan freebies?
That mobile phone…
Was Joseph offended that the ‘holiday’ was too short, given how he implied that the organisers should have extended the stay? Every time he opens his mouth he f,,,s it up.
He bored me to tears.
Pffffffffff
Deep thoughts indeed!
Joseph mentions distribution of wealth. My guess is that he is going ruin government finances like Labour did in the UK.
If you were not born yesterday, you should know that Labour Governments in Malta distribute wealth that Labour governments generate. You should worry if JM will be distributing what the PN generated; how may billions in debt? I lost count.
The only thing Labour in goverment ever generated was misery for the masses, and heaven for the select few.
Oh, I definitely remember those glorious years, black-market televisions and all. Your type hate it now because making a living entails thinking and taking a risk. You have a yearning to go back into history where the state did all. Look where that got us.
“wealth that Labour governments generate” – How, may I ask, would such wealth have been generated? By nationalising privately-owned enterprises, perhaps?
Wealth? All I remember was a closed university, Korpi, second hand power station, second hand telephone exchanges, corruption and violence . . . oh, and no water either.
Phili, which galaxy are you from?
I think I once saw that chap with the mobile phone in an episode of The Sopranos.
I still can’t get used to the idea of lawyers being called doctor. Never happens in UK.
That’s because barristers or sollicitors are not doctors of law – that’s why it never happens in the UK. Equally, anyone who holds a doctorate, should be called doctor irrespective of his profession.
Perhaps you ought to do a bit more whilst your standing by looking, than just looking interested.
[Daphne – I think the essential argument, Etienne, is that lawyers should not be considered doctors of law. The reality is that their six years plus one thesis do not go beyond Masters level, in period of study, work required and certainly not depth of research. The law course is and was replete with very weak students who still somehow made it through. They would never have managed a doctorate (without a little help from their friends).]
Some lawyers even graduate magna cum laude and go on to give ferocious speeches
Medical and dental practitioners have their names in a register held legally by the Medical Council and pay an annual fee to have their name retained on the said register. There is nothing similar for lawyers.
Nahseb li hija sistema “alla Taliana”. But I did not know that in the UK lawyers are not addressed as ‘doctor’.
Kemm iktar gravi li certu Maltin jintroducu lilhom infushom bhala ‘is-sur’, u jindirizzaw lill-parti l-ohra b’isimha anke jekk bil-kemm ikunu jafuwha.
Funny how Maltese New Yorkers look even more like peasants than the Maltese themselves.
[Daphne – They don’t. What you’re seeing there is first and second generation Laburisti from the urban working-class. They look and behave no different to their brothers, sisters, cousins and Zija Mer in Malta. Smart Maltese don’t go to party clubs, not PN and especially not Labour, either in Malta or in New York. However, I am astounded as you are that they can cross the Atlantic, live their lives in an entirely different society, and remain as shabby and uncouth as they were in Malta. Those are things they can change, unlike their stumpy limbs.]
Just for the record… that is not a party club but the Maltese Centre and the guys shown are not all Laburisti. In agreement with the rest of the comment.
It is not a party club, but a Maltese club. What’s wrong in that? Let them get together once a week and do whatever they want. Taf x’naf, li they are living their lives there away from all this crap, u int, bil-qrid kollu li teqred hawn Malta tibqa .. why don’t you go to the UK for instance?
[Daphne – They seem to have taken their ‘crap’ with them. Why go live in New York to hang around at a Maltese centre looking like you’re out for the afternoon in Hamrun? And it might not be a Labour Party club, but who else but Laburisti would have gone to listen to the Labour leader? That’s the thing: the identity of those immigrants is not ‘Maltese’ but ‘Laburist Malti’.]
It is the same thing as you go to live in a peasant area of Malta and still think that being from Sliema makes you superior. People like you, we call them ‘Mejtin bil-Guh’ in Maltese same as the Italian ‘Morti di Fame’. You are just nice and beautiful where it shows, and rotten on the inside.
Believe me .. they do lose that identity of “Laburisti Maltin” or “Nazzjonalisti Maltin”. I have relatives in the US and they don’t care whether Gonzi or Joseph visits, as long as it is someone from Malta.
It is Sliema which is now ‘a peasant area’, because people like you, who think they are moving up th world by getting a flat there, have moved in en masse. Meanwhile, the smart people have left in droves.
Daphne: hmar taqtalu’ denbu…
The yob with the phone is the so-called President of the Labour Party in New York. I’m sure he will be taking his Leader’s words to heart and following them to the letter. From this day forth no more partisan politics in the Maltese community! Yeah right.
God why is he so bloody patronising, so pompous and so lacking in substance ?
Quite simple really: he thinks he’s “arrived”.
A close examination of the video shows that Joseph was speaking in Astoria, NY. This is a neighbourhood in Queens borough, not some central square of Manhattan.
With hindsight, this probably means that Maltastar was probably right in its choice of the picture of the Manhattan night skyline in a recent issue: it could be the view from the window of some Astoria apartment.
Mind you, the place is named John Jacob Jacob Astor, one of the wealthiest Americans in history. I think he got a mention in the movie Titanic.
That is a bit different from the famous Waldorf=Astoria, which is bang in the heart of Manhattan.
This is getting a bit childish, to put it mildly. If you take the subway, Astoria is 15 minutes away from Central Park. Fenech Adami and Lawrence Gonzi always visited the place and said a few words when they went to NY to read their speech to the General Assembly. Similarly for any visiting cabinet minister and their entourages. It’s definitely not the Union Club or the Casino Maltese; the ambiance is more akin to that of a kazin tal-banda; so if one wants to be snotty, fine. However I’m told they have some really good pastizzi.
El Topo, it is childish indeed. In fact, Joseph Muscat told the NY community in Astoria that they should not be divided about politics, but we, on this little island, where there is nowhere to run from each other, can be politically divided.
Joseph Muscat “Ghandna arma gdida” (4.05). Gaddafi was probably worried to hear that.
“Id-dinja qeghdha tickien” we were told at school in the late 80s but it seems that Muscat doesn’t realise that.
Doesn’t he know how easy it is nowadays to keep contact with rest of the world? If Malta were at war the Maltese in the USA wouldn’t know. As if there are no means of communication between the USA and Malta.
“Imnalla li kien il-profeta Muscat li mar ibassar il-bxara t-tajba”.
What is the purpose of his visit in the USA? I’m sorry, I live abroad and not so in touch with Muscat’s agenda.
The US embassy invited him on a familiarisation visit i.e. to meet civil servants in Washington, and he grabbed the chance of a cut price visit to NY.
It was an invitation by the American government. Another one of those familiarisation visits fully-paid by the US citizen, perhaps?
As for the purpose or agenda, did Labour ever have either one or the other?
This is how maltastar announced the visit on 3 April 2011(disclaimer: I just copied and pasted from their website).
“Joseph Muscat leaves for U.S.A.
Opposition leader Dr. Joseph Muscat today left Malta for the United States.
During his visit he will meet with state department officials in Capitol Hill, Washington.
He will also be visiting the state of New York where he will meet with the Maltese and Gozitan community.
Dr Muscat was invited to the United Stated by the American Government.”
Dr Muscat is probably going to be the next prime minister. The CIA want to make sure he does not step out of line.
“Kull fejn immur kulhadd ifahharLI”, the babbu said like a bloody kappillan talking about his gandlieri. Tal-biki.
It is amazing how Joseph Muscat preaches about all these issues as though he was the principal catalyst behind them.
This is Muscat’s logic:
1. We wait for wealth to be generated
2. When wealth is generated it has to be distributed in the best possible way
3. Wealth should not remain “among the few”.
Needless to say, this is not a set of original thoughts, and one would have believed that such thoughts had been consigned to the dustbin of history.
What Muscat seems to ignore is that his ideology spells the death sentence of initiative.
This boy lacks gravitas.
He’s no PM material.
… and racist in Msida … http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110410/local/go-back-to-africa-policeman-tells-african-jesuits
And this one is not much better!
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110410/local/malta-should-take-firmer-stand-on-migration-musca
Oh dear, wealth, wealth, wealth, they never mention how wealth will be generated. Do they intend to do as they did in the 70s and 80s, taking it from Dick to give it to Harry, so as to get Harry’s praise and votes?
I wonder if Joseph Muscat had time to visit the Empire Station while in New York.
Why, do you think he needed any PETLOR?
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the Lejber Party has not disclosed whom Muscat met with at the State Department, and which members of the National Security Council?
Stands to reason that he can’t have met anybody much higher than a tea boy, or we would have had pictures splashed on every newspaper.
Maltastar did disclose that, in NY, Joseph Muscat met Professor Joseph Stiglitz, a recipient of the Nobel Prize in Economics.
Prof. Stiglitz is famous for his work on “efficiency wages.” After his abandonment of the concept of the “living wage” – which after all is an old Catholic concept – Joseph Muscat may have thought that “efficiency wages” would be a suitable substitute – mhux l-aqwa li “wages”!
I don’t believe it is inevitable that he will win. I think there is time for the floaters to see what a mess he would make.
When he went to Australia, he told the people gathered in the club that there are 20.000 people on the poverty line in Malta, and he is trying to figure out how he can provide a plane and get the old people to Malta to see their ‘old country’. People hearing him said “he must be joking’ because it can never be, it requires lots of money, doctors nurses
and so on. They said ‘he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
They are all PL members because I know some of them and when they come to Malta for their holidays they are seen with l-Orizzont in their hands.
Dejjem prevedibbli immens. U meta jipprova jghid xi haga ‘tieghu’, biex forsi jaghmel hoss jaqa’ waqgha ghan-n**k u filghaxija jsib lil opportunist Joe jaghmel programm biex ibengilhielu! Tal-emigranti u t-Taljani l-ahhar ezempju…