Cyrus Engerer – a rising star, if the Nationalist Party has any sense
He spoke really well on Xarabank, but the shame is that you had to sit all the way through the programme to catch him really go for it at the end.
And that meant sitting through the God-awful Joyce Cassar behaving like a harridan and going on about how much ‘she suffered’ in the campaign because people said things about her. The equally dreadful Monsignor Gouder backed her up and said ‘Tan-No ghaddew minn martirju.’
Ajma, xi tqallih. Mur arhom kienu xi Daphne Caruana Galizia, ghoxrin sena taqla fuq rasa.
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, Joyce. It will sure be a lot quieter without the sound of that voice.
Can we wheel these people off the stage and park them in some cupboard, please? The No campaign is about as relevant now as Sant’s Partnership.
So goodbye, Joyce, and thank you. The Bishop of Gozo and Monsignor Gouder might have a job for you, hunting down Wolves in the Skins of Lambs and Brigands Who Have Sneaked Into the Fold at the Dead of Night (but don’t get too excited about that one).
If Joyce Cassar is the past, Cyrus Engerer is the future. The Nationalist Party is damned lucky to have him, and I am pleased to see they had the good sense to roll him out to speak on Xarabank. This is their way of saying ‘Look, we’re not all members of Opus Dei who whip ourselves with rosary-beads every night and think that the Madonna cries when we do Bad Things.”
From one extreme to another: from talking about divorce as though it’s some kind of ‘babaw’ instead of just normal legislation, to pushing the openly homosexual Cyrus Engerer out of the bunker to surround to the hostile crowds with talk of gay marriage and why every MP should vote Yes to the divorce bill.
Good for you, Cyrus – you were great when you could get a word in between Joyce Cassar’s howling and shrieking.
And do you know what was even better about him? He didn’t butt in, didn’t interrupt, didn’t talk over others, didn’t yell to drown out the other side. He waited until he was asked to speak and then he spoke – very clearly and very concisely.
That kind of good manners and ability to express yourself concisely goes down a treat with Nationalist Party supporters like me, who have had it right up to here with shouty, ill-mannered boors whose idea of a discussion is drowning out opposing views by raising the volume and interrupting, and who are culturally unable to speak succinctly.
If Deborah Schembri is going to be Labour’s secret weapon on the 9th and 10th districts (and I bet she is) then Cyrus has to be the Nationalist Party’s. I hope they’re not making the mistake of thinking he’s only good for the youth vote. Older people love him, especially the nannas. In Sliema, he looks like everyone’s grandson or at least the one they wish they had. And no, they don’t care that he’s gay. The 9th district isn’t Hal Safi.
So what did Cyrus say when Joyce, Monsignor Gouder and non-stop talker Joe Mifsud let him (Frank Portelli was pretty good; he had the clout to stand up to the monsignor)?
That he voted Yes to divorce in the referendum. And that every MP – both sides of the house – is in duty bound to vote Yes. He pointed out that when the Labour Party voted No to the EU accession treaty after the referendum returned a Yes vote, the Nationalist Party embarked on a crusade of criticism, and rightly so. Now it has to be consistent, and not do what Sant and Labour did then.
Anything other than a Yes vote, he said, would be an “insult to the people”.
When Joyce Cassar managed to draw breath to ask him what the big deal is given that the prime minister has guaranteed the vote will go through, Cyrus calmly pointed out that there is no way you can guarantee the vote will go through when it’s a free vote, unless you give some people permission to use their consciences but then tell others that they have to vote Yes, conscience or no conscience.
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Cyrus is surely promising.
Quite honestly I doubt he will be given the right space in a political party (not that the PL would either). They are using him to make up for the lost face during the referendum ‘crusade’.
Once the referendum is history he will be side-lined, count on that!
On the note of gay marriage, I am strongly against it. The state should regulate cohabitation, give gay couples civil rights of succession etc but NEVER allow them to marry.
Then we will move on to gay couples adopting etc etc etc
[Daphne – I trust you realise that your tone and argumentation are EXACTLY the same as that of those who argued against ‘giving’ women the vote. The thin end of the wedge, the end of society as we know it, give women the vote and society will collapse, it goes against nature for women to vote, women are mentally unfit to take those sorts of decisions, blah blah blah. Now we look back and think, what the hell?]
I voted Yes wholeheartedly but let us not now think that this means people want gay marriage and all this bull.
Gay couples have the right to live their relationships freely and their rights and obligations protected by the state but from that to acknowledging a daddy, daddy family is a different ball game altogether!
[Daphne – How about a mummy mummy family, Anthony.Will that make you feel happier? And what do you do when people come out of the closet after marrying and having children – do you take their children into care, or allow the other parent not to give access? I used to think as you do, long ago, but as I have gone through life and realised how short it all is, I’ve understood just how pointless these petty controls are and I am sad for the thousands of lives ruined through social control, when none of it need have happened. Live and let live. The only thing that matters with me is whether a person is good or bad, and that should apply throughout.]
I never understood, and perhaps never will, people who say they are fine with gay people as long as they do not marry.
So we want heteros to have the right to marry and divorce at will (both legal instruments) but we cannot afford gay people the same rights? On what grounds?
The choice isn’t between a daddy+mummy relationship and a mummy+mummy relationship. It’s between living in an orphanage in Africa/Cambodia/etc or having 2 mummies or 2 daddies who give you a home/food/love/education etc, and possibly a future. Make your choice.
Single parents: their kids only get a dad, or a mum. What do they do?
Then again you could have a mum and a dad, and be in a living hell.
Love is what makes a family.
How about a mummy only or a daddy only for parents (or parent in this case). Why can’t single people adopt a child?
[Daphne – They can and do, but they have to be women, regardless of sexual orientation.]
Joemaltaman +daphne> As far as I know, they USED to. I heard Cremona has tried to hinder adoption for single people in Malta (I can never understand why certain people think that whatever works for millions of people in the rest of Europe, probably won’t in Malta!).
[Daphne – Who is ‘Cremona’?]
I voted Yes wholeheartedly but let us not now think that this means people want gay marriage and all this bull.
The door will be opened widely with the legislation of divorce, dear Albert. It’s no use crying over spilt milk.
Gay marriages and campaigns for responsible abortion are awaiting their turn. Satan is having a field day. And it will be much too late when ungodly Maltese people realize what had happened and how they had played in His Majesty’s hands.
By the way, no one can blame Our Lord for our f*** ups. Our Lady has warned her children, hasn’t she? We didn’t heed her, now here we go.
“By the way, no one can blame Our Lord for our f*** ups.”
Well he did have to first scatter all people across the continents, ensuring they can’t understand each other. Then kill all but a small group of people to start all over. Then send a “saviour” to earth only to have him tortured and killed to save mankind. Then this “saviour” has to come back at some point to set things right one ultimate time.
Not a grand job on the whole I’d say.
I think he might consider to stand on the PL’s ticket in the next general election, bearing in mind the PN’s attitude.
[Daphne – The Nationalist Party, and this is a curious thing considering, has absolutely no problem at all with homosexuals. All the openly gay politicians in this country stand on the PN ticket. There isn’t a single gay person on the Labour ticket, though there are one or two closeted in marriages within its structure. Labour corrals its homosexuals in a pen for special needs people: LGBT Labour, from which, not a peek for the last year or two.]
What I cannot understand is this. Is it true that Labour decriminalised the fact of being gay in Mitoff’s time? Any if so why are there so many Labourites opposing these people. They call them puf**. For me it does not make any difference, if you are gay or str8, but it makes a difference calling a person puft**.
[Daphne – The Labour government in the 1975s decriminalised sodomy, regardless of whether it involved men and men or men and women. It wasn’t homosexuality that was illegal. It was sodomy. It was the same in many other European countries, including Britain. But of course, by the time Labour removed that law from the statute books, it had long since become a dead letter. Nobody was actually prosecuted for sodomy – though a historian might tell us whether there were some cases in, say, the 19th century.]
Correct me if i’m wrong… but in a TOM interview with one of the ‘NO’ guys, the interviewer mentioned homosexuality and adultery, and that PN and the church opposed their decriminilisation at the time, with the same reasons they opposed divorce recently… family bla bla. Can’t find the interview anymore.
As I already commented on another post, which for some reason you did not publish, I think the Prime Minister needs to do a lot more than just a cabinet reshuffle as intimated by Super One two days ago.
[Daphne – Which one, Herbie? I publish all comments unless they are wholly inane (e.g. hahhahahaha or hehehehehe) or slanderous or drag in third parties who can’t reply, especially when the person making the accusations is anonymous.]
As leader of the PN he needs to make a thorough clean-up of the stables within the party administration though it already seems to be too late. Otherwise the PN is in for a real bashing come the next general election with the PL scoring a historic victory.
The PL is already making inroads towards this aim with a lot of help from the PN camp.
The likes of Karl Gouder and Cyrus Engerer would surely help to reverse the tide surely not with Gordon, Clyde, Charlo and the two Tonios.
As to Xarabank may I point out to Mons Gouder that his arguments did not impress me or convince me at all, when he tried to defend the Bishop of Gozo aided and abetted by Joe Mifsud. He said that the Bishop was only repeating Christ’s words in John’s gospel in his homily the Sunday before the referendum.
Yes true, Monsignor, but there are such things as body language and tone of delivery which speak volumes more than words and people with a figment of intelligence could well read the message through the delivery much more than the words.
As to the apology, or reconciliation appeal as it is now being called, we are not all idiots and swallow everything that is sold to us by the media as intimated by Mons Gouder. I for one read through that statement and reached my own conclusions.
I hope I could do that at least. If genuine that statement should have been issued before the referendum if it was really intended to heal the pain of a lot of the Church faithful of which I am sure there is a large number amongst those who abstained from voting.
I am afraid that Mr. Engerer was not representing the PN but the ‘Stand Up’ movement.
[Daphne – He remains a Nationalist politicians but -sshhhhh – don’t tell the Broadcasting Authority.]
@ Daphne
“And no, they don’t care that he’s gay. The 9th district isn’t Hal Safi.”
Please, Daphne, is it possible to elaborate some more re the above statement. Thank you.
[Daphne – The attitudes are different, if you want me to put it that way. The divorce vote showed that. Young gay people have no problem with being openly gay in a ‘Sliema’ environment. They come out to their parents, to their friends and they are open about their relationships. And parents don’t worry what the neighbours think because by and large they don’t even know the neighbours and don’t care anyway. It’s not a coincidence that Cyrus comes from that environment. He is typical of what I describe.]
“He spoke really well on Xarabank, but the shame is that you had to sit all the way through the programme to catch him really go for it at the end”.
That’s Xarabank for you. I experienced that twice (representing an animal welfare NGO). Usually, the people who have the most to say are the ones that speak the least.
Xarabank is certainly not the best setting for a rational debate.
How true you speak, Kenneth. You should have seen the most absurd programme on animal welfare yesterday on Super One.
I didn’t watch it, but I can only imagine. I hardly watch Maltese TV channels any more.
Unfortunately it doesn’t seem that the PN “had the good sense to roll him out to speak on Xarabank”. He spoke for Stand Up within the YES movement.
[Daphne- He would have had to have the party’s permission. And I imagine he would have had to speak for StandUp because then the Broadcasting Authority would start another saga because there wasn’t a councillor from the Labour Party (remember that Cyrus isn’t an MP). The point is that he is exactly what the PN needs in its mainstream and so he should move out of local politics and into national politics, assuming that he wants to.]
If Cyrus is to begin discussing gay marriages then it will inevitably be gay adoptions next, Daphne. Ironically we will become more liberal than the Netherlands in a couple of years from a fundamentalist Catholic community. If this is the kind of political enviornment we will be made to endure, it is no surprise that the hard right is rising to steadily in most European countries to suppress this farce.
[Daphne – Made to endure? Gay women can adopt already in Malta and do so. Maltese adoption law isn’t concerned with sexuality but with gender. It is not a man’s gayness that bars him from adopting, but his maleness. Single men are not allowed to adopt, because it is not considered to be in a child’s best interest to be in the care only of a man/men. So if you like, it is not gay people that our adoption laws discriminate against, but men.]
Simon Busittil is also every grandmother’s dream for a grandson and has always invariably been elected. All he’s done over the last eight years is moan about burden sharing and the multi-tasks of Frontex missions which have always proved to be so unsuccessful. He has delivered nothing, just cheap talk while we continue to be scourged with mass migration, are helpless in this situation and continue to be risiculed by our European counterparts.
[Daphne – Oh I forgot, you’re hard right and anti-African (because when you talk of immigrants, it’s the ones that come from the south that bother you most). We already have a political party that caters for that kind of thinking – Labour – so go there. Please stop sulking because the Nationalist Party isn’t rightist, anti-immigration and xenophobic.]
No regrettably the Nationalist party has becomes more socialist than Labour: It has fuelled the welfare state to such an extent that it pays all the bums to stay at home and unmarried mothers with unkown fathers to continue to thrive and suck up on taxpayers money.
Immigration does come from the South in our case. If it were gypsies, or romanians which keep coming in, then the argument would remain the same. This is not about colour, it is about the effects of multiculturalism and diversity which are worrying. Different cultures can not co-exsist and we dont have to go back to the thirties to bear witness to this, the nineties in ex-Yugoslavia were a living proof. I am not hard-right, I simply stated that our inability to act is raising the right and History almost always repeats itself.
Lastly, labour is anything but hard-right Daphne. What in God’s name ever gave you that impression???
[Lorna saliba – If it were gypsies, or romanians which keep coming in, then the argument would remain the same].
By “argument”, do you perhaps mean “let them drown”?
[Lorna saliba – This is not about colour, it is about the effects of multiculturalism and diversity which are worrying].
True. Its not about racism, but about xenophobia.
[Lorna saliba – Different cultures can not co-exsist]
You’d be surprised to learn that even among Maltese citizens, you will find different cultures. For instance, I cannot relate to anything you are saying, and my birth certificate says I’m Maltese. I hope we can co-exist, and if not, what would you suggest we do?
There’s the law to regulate harmful behaviour. Cultural diversity within the limits defined by law should not only be tolerated – it should actively be encouraged. We are not robots.
[Lorna saliba – History almost always repeats itself].
True. Think Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.
Lorna, this will probably scandalise you but I’m honestly looking forward to the day when the PN fields black persons among its candidates. I don’t mean immigrants (there would be legal restrictions for that) but Maltese citizens of African descent.
DCG- I wanted to post a comment about the above yesterday but I think it did not get through.
Gay adoption rights are not that simple as you stated above. Persons who decide to adopt have to show that they are of sound beliefs and stable. Many gays have to pretend that they are not in a relationship or living with someone, to stand a chance of adopting.
[Daphne – That’s why we were talking about single people. Single people by definition are people who are not in a relationship, not people who are not married. People who are cohabiting will not get permission to adopt, whether they are homosexual or heterosexual. This is not because adoption laws are against cohabitation, but because you have to be either single or in a really stable relationship, and that stability is defined as marriage, though even married couples must have been married for some years before they can apply for adoption.]
If a gay couple want to adopt they cannot do so together but as single parents. The law does not recognise the couple, so although acting as parent to the child one of the couple would never have any legal rights over the child.
[Daphne – It is the same with heterosexual couples. Only one adopts – but only if the social workers etc do not notice that you are cohabiting.]
It truly is a shame because there are many wonderful couples I know who would make fantastic parents to so many children in need.
[Daphne – I agree. I do not subscribe to the mentality that a child is better off in an orphanage in Ethiopia or Russia than in a good home in Malta with gay/straight/single parents. I have had several arguments about this with members of the religious right. I am sometimes shocked at the hardness and lackj of humane sentiments in people, especially women strangely enough, who are diehard members of certain types of Catholic prayer groups. The hardness required for their own self-discipline (though I doubt they lash themselves with a celice or whatever it is called) is projected onto the rest of society. Lacking feeling for themselves, they lack feeling for others. All empathy is gone. This refers to some individuals and obviously not to all members of such organisations, which would be a wrongful generalisation. But I do think that people who are attracted to the extreme discipline of Catholic organisations are attracted to discipline in general. Taken to its extreme, discipline negates empathy.
Also, let us not forget that the worst case of abuse of adopted children in Malta – the repeated rape of five-year-old girls by their adoptive father – took place in a heterosexual married couple’s home. The court heard that the girls had been literally ‘imported’ from Romania for the man’s satisfaction, with his wife’s collusion. The wife, in court, actually accused the girls, aged five, of ‘throwing themselves’ at her husband.]
I wonder why you are not carrying my comments.
[Daphne – Because I had other things to do, Herbie. I don’t sit glued to my computer waiting for Herbie’s comments.]
Herbie says: I wonder why you are not carrying my comments.
[Daphne – Because I had other things to do, Herbie. I don’t sit glued to my computer waiting for Herbie’s comments.]
No but the rest of us are.
Goodmorning, just wanted to post a quick comment. I do not think that the PN ‘pushed’ anyone on Xarabank or anything of the sort, I think he was just there as a representative of Stand Up and the Yes camp. I doubt that any political party, especially the conservatives will ever be in favour of gay marriage (although in terms of leaders, Muscat has already said he agrees). Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Labourite I’m just open minded, and I don’t think they’re ready for this yet.
No reproach intended in my latest comment just wondered seeing that comments bearing a later time sent had already appeared and no I do not use such terms as hehehe or hahaha. I could have pressed the wrong button in my previous submission.
My apology, and a genuine one at that, if you took offence.
[Daphne – I wasn’t referring to you when I spoke of ‘hahahaha’ etc. Later comments are uploaded before earlier ones because I start uploading from the top, not the bottom, and when there’s a waiting list of 80 comments, it takes a while to get through them. That’s all.]
well many times i agree on most stuff DCG writes bt she sure as hell made sme stupid remarks this time round.. frst of all the PN are not at all in favour of gay marriages or anything of the sort. The PM at present is even breaching the EU laws within the rights of medical care fr trans ppl like me. and i shld know a few things about that. and her comment about ppl in sliema being more tolerant.. is a joke. if she intends that the northern part of the island are more open minded re gays, she is well beyond wrong. ive dated with the posshiest of creme de la creme , back in time with a woman. and her parents were anything but broadminded, inspite of their hight status in society and high level of education, both her parents have. just to mention one of the most haunting things ever happened, while she was seeing me, is .. her mom took her to the parish priest to pray over her head in the hope of making her forget me lol!!! i live in south south. i live in cospicua . yu cant get more south than that, and the ppl here are so relaxed about me being trans. they spk to me like anyone else and are very helpfull when i need anything. they may be loud and noisy in the long run. but they are nt the least bothered with anyone being gay, trans or what not over here. The girl i mentioned earlier who was seeing me.. wldnt even let me be seen in sliema with her at Saddles, simply cause her posh frnds wld question her and what not. so I advice DCG to do her hw well, before talking about how tolerant ppl are in sliema. most of which do everything in the hush hush. Here in cospicua. if ure a single mom with a basturd child, everybody knows and it, if ure gay everyone knows, and if ure a guy who likes to dress up in female clothing, it dnt bother them at all. ive seen intolerance re gay, trans etc frm both north and southern ppl, in Malta. it is not a question of where one frm or the academical level of a person. its a question of being broadminded enough to nt bother what anyone else wants to be , feel or do.
Tolerance in Cospicua………… for everything except for being a Nationalist.
Ninu , i been living here for about 16 years now. i can assure you that being nationalist is not really a prob to most, in Cospicua . not anymore atleast. People who have come to live here in the past 15 years, i been here .. come from all walks of life and other localities. There was a time yes or should i say, some parts of Cospicua .. may be still a bit heavy on people, who are in favour of nationalist beliefs. But it has changed a lot , i can assure you.
I did not watch Mr. Cyrus Engerer on Xarabank but I listened to him on a televised discussion programme immediately after the result on divorce.
He was truly impressive. He was calm and very polite and did not interrupt. He also had all participants present listening to him attentively. He speaks with clarity and reason. Malta needs more people like Mr. Cyrus Engerer.
Cyrus speaks well and rationally but I’d like to point out to him (hoping he reads this) that, in Maltese, “minority” (as opposed to majority) is “minoranza” and not “minorita’ ” as he keeps repeating whenever the subject is minority rights.
Majority is “maggoranza”, of course. “Minorita’ ” means the condition of being a minor, a person under the legal age of entering into certain obligations.
As it seems we will continue hearing him campaign in favour of minority rights in future, I would be glad not to hear this mistake recurring. I wish him good luck as I do Dr. Deborah Schembri.
Unfortunately in Malta, when you are well mannered like Cyrus, you get the usual “kemm hu kwiet jahasra”.
You also get to speak very little in a conversation and what happened yesterday was a typical example. You end up having to interrupt people just like they do or you don’t get to speak at all.
[Daphne – The host/moderator should see to that. Interrupting and shouting are always out of order]
What did Hal- Safi ever do to you?!?
[Daphne – Nothing. I think it’s a really pretty village. It’s also one of Malta’s oldest villages, which is why I mentioned it. I could have mentioned Hal Kirkop or Mqabba or Gudja or Qrendi – same difference. I compared the oldest with the newest, that’s all.]
I have some very close with ties with Hal Safi and as such I think that your mentioning of this village was not the most appropriate. Many Hal Safin are originally from surrounding villages like Zurrieq.
It is, in my opinion, villages such as the latter and Siggiewi which have narrow minded mentality where the scope of life rarely goes beyond the village’s boundaries, where intolerance to differing lifestyles is the norm and where many’s principal aim in life is to know about the neighbours and fellow villagers’ actions.
I also have doubts whether Safi is the oldest village in the lot.
Mr Farrugia – I was going to ignore your comment but felt I had to say that your second paragraph above is quite narrow-minded. Having lived in Safi all my life I can assure you that most people who live there are not as you portray. Through such a comment you just go to show how limited your thinking is.
Safi and the surrounding villages are a mixed pot but believe it or not during the day time people do go beyond the tunnels and explore the rest of enlightened Malta.
Purity – Yes, I more than acknowledge that people in these villages go beyond the airport tunnels for work, school etc.
What I was referring to was the mentality that the village in which one lives is sacred and exhaustive.
For example, I know people who did not like the fact that their children moved away to Attard or Balzan after marrying. In their mentality, children should live very close to their parents’ home and any attempt otherwise would be insulting.
I am obviously not generalising but talking about the prevalent mentality of native villagers.
“Ajma, xi tqalligh. Mur arahom kieku kienu xi Daphne Caruana Galizia, ghoxrin sena taqla’ fuq rasha.”
Taqla’ fuq rasek ghall-glorja t’Alla mod, taqla’ fuq rasek ghall-unur tieghek mod iehor!
“He didn’t butt in, didn’t interrupt…”
Now that’s a must for any PN candidate and a NO-NO for any PL candidate.
Dr Deborah Schembri interrupts and therefore she will be a successful PL candidate.
Her timing was bad. As soon as someone rode piggyback while she was riding the wave her popularity started to sink.
Ma gibtiex tieghui uzgur ma qabilekx.
[Daphne – I have already said several times over that I don’t upload comments which drag third parties slanderously into the mix.]
Bir-rispett kollu lejn Cyrus, politikanti ma jistawx jitbewsu ma persuni quddiem it-tv ma persuni tal-istess sess u iva POLITIKANTI ma jistawx jitolbu iz-zwieg ghal persuni tal-istess sess.
Naf li ha naqla hafna taghjjir pero ma nemminx li persuna bhal Cyrus jista qadt xi darba jkun politikant tajjeb u biex inkun ghar min hekk lanqas l-kunsill ma jixraqlu.
Tista tkun iktar patetiku minn hekk?
Jigifieri persuni gays ghandna nwaqqfuhom milli jaghtu servizz lis-socjeta’ dan kollu ghax ghandom attrazzjoni lejn l-istess sess?
Once li persuna ghandu l-kapacita f’dak li jaghmel, li taghtih ic-cans f’hajtu huwa dmir!
U billi mhux kulhadd out bhal Cyrus ma jfissirx li f’hajtek qatt ma ghinuk nies gays. Jista jkun l-ghalliem tat-tfal tieghek li ghinhom jimxu l-quddiem, qassis li tak parir, u nies bhal haddiehor li jaghtu servizz.
As long li jaghmlu xogholom sew, dak li jaghmlu fil-privat ta’ hajjitom is none of your business.
Le, ma nahsibx li ha taqla hafna tghajjir. Nies bhalek normalment nittollerawhom u nithassruhom.
Jaqq, jaqq u jaqq! Ghall-kumment tieghek qed nirreferi JCIM.
Nithassar lilkhom meta turragunaw bdan il-mod.
Tiehdu gost meta it-tfal taghkom jaraw bews bejn persuni tal-istess sess? Ghax jien le.
Jien ma noboghod lill hadd u ghandi hbieb gay pero quddiem uliedi jirrispettaw lili u iktar lill uliedi u ma jaghmlu xejn kontra in-natura.
Mohhkom maghluq inthom ghax egojisti f’dan is-sens. Dawn il-persuni ghandhom dritt ghall-hajjithom daqs kemm ghandi jien pero le ma jistawx jkunu figure-heads jekk jaghmlu dal-kummiedji f’ghajn in-nies.
Mhux ezempju tajjeb ghal uliedna. Issa jekk tkun trid tinstema popolari bhal ma qed taghmlu inthom, dak mod iehor pero deep down il-maggoranza bhali jahsbuha.
So Cyrus Engerer cannot be a politician because he’s gay. Tell that to Peter Mandelson, Michael Portillo and Guido Westerwelle.
This is a reply to JCIM.
Jien m’ghidtlekx hekk. Jien ghidtlek li Cyrus ma jistax ikun politikant tajjeb meta wiehed immur jitbewwes quddiem il-cameras u jghid li irid iz-zwieg bejn koppji gay quddiem il-cameras. Fil-parlament hemm min hu gay pero hadd ma jghid xejn kontrihom.
[JCIM – Jien ghidtlek li Cyrus ma jistax ikun politikant tajjeb meta wiehed immur jitbewwes quddiem il-cameras u jghid li irid iz-zwieg bejn koppji gay quddiem il-cameras].
Fiex wasalna, hux? Bniedem jaghmel turija ta’ mhabba pubblikament! Ma jistax ikun nibqghu sejrin hekk. U dan x’jigifieri ikun onest quddiem il-cameras! Quddiem il-cameras ghandu jkun hemm biss nies li juru wicc b’iehor.
Forsi dan ridt tfisser meta ghidt li Cyrus ma jistax ikun politikant tajjeb? Forsi ghax ihobb u hu onest wisq biex ikun politikant?
It looks clear now that Debbie took off her sheep skin. Should have waited some more before commiting herself to Joseph’s proposal. We now know her real intensions.
How can he vote ‘yes’ for the bill if he is not an MP? With Cyrus or without him, PN is still a confessional party. He’ll be sidelined and ignored as usual. Mind you same with Debbie, the PL candidates on her district will make sure that she sinks…
[Daphne – That is the horrible part of our electoral system, and why we so often end up with rubbish and backstabbers. Good people are most often not prepared to work that kind of system and watch their backs all the time. You’re in the race to fight against candidates of the other party, but you end up fighting the candidates of your own party. It’s terrible.]
Would a single district for the whole country help us move away from the way candidates abuse the current system?
Or is it unworkable?
[Daphne – A single district would give us a ballot-sheet like a lavatory roll, with the names of every candidate in the country on it. I don’t know about you, but I get desperate enough as it is reading through the few on the Mosta list.]
I always thought that it is easy for a candidate to get the current quotas as it means keeping 2000 people (would that be 10% of the eligible voters?) “happy”. With no districts, a candidate would need many more votes to come out within the top 60 or 65.
The most obvious downside to this system I can see is that a voter would need to vote for 35 candidates – quite a laborious stay in the polling booth.
There goes the rising star!
Inthom il-laqien li fahhartu lill Cyrus, ghadkom tahsbuha l-istess? Nahseb li kelli ragun fil-kummenti tieghi hawn fuq.
Tant hu politikant tajjeb u bniedem ta’ principju li min lejl ghal nhar biddel il-vizjoni politika tieghu u bidel il-partit.
Bniedem bla vizjoni u minghajr vibra.