“What I would recommend to some of your super intelligent elitist contributors is to book more than one appointment with a reliable dental surgeon so they can fix their broken teeth and jaws if Labour takes the helm.”
Apparently, or so we're told, dentists are going to be in business: good luck, Jeffrey
Inevitably, a Mintoffian has sent in his experience to counter those written to me by two women and published on this site.
Well, he thinks it counters what they wrote. In effect, it does the opposite.
Posted by jose tonight (and no, I haven’t deliberately rearranged the sentences or backed them up against each other to make it look like a rant; this is how it came through, intact):
Every now and then I visit this site for a good laugh but most of all to confirm the virtues of what Mintoff was capable of!
I was born in the 70s, always went to state schools and eventually got my first degree from the UoM and later my masters from a very renowned British university. As a boy coming from Mintoff’s birthplace I, for sure, never encountered the ‘evil’ circumstances mentioned by some of your contributors. As mentioned by one of your elitist contributors, my family is part of that 50% of the population that got everything for free, because of Mintoff. We got an apartment facing the Valletta bastions and a huge plot for free, my father first used to work with the government, then moved to the drydocks, thanks to Lorry Sant earning more than 25K (liri maltin in the 80s!!!) a year and lately retired with a nice golden handshake. One of the many golden handshake that the super intelligent Mr Bean (aka Austin Gatt) invented. SO? So what? If may I ask, what‘s wrong about this? Today people that coincidentally are Nationalist (and think they speak English!) get direct orders worth thousands of euro and maybe some super job with a re-branded government entity called ‘Authority’ . In the 70s and 80s people that coincidentally were ‘hamalli’ or better as my wife sometimes call me ‘hemix’ used to get cosy government jobs and plots worth thousands of liri for free. So? ??!!!Some of the elitist over here, including yourself cannot stand this! I do, sometimes, understand ta!…..cause I frequent and give orders to these assholes on most of my working days! The problem is that the working class, irrelevant from where is coming from must stay under the table collecting the breadcrumbs that the ‘ super intelligent elite, two brains, three balls people, drop!
Unlike Gorg ‘il-barri’, the more you degrade and mention Mintoff the more you make a man outof him.
Beware of this, Daphne. I find no problem to say that where there is a lack of intelligence, violence may become the order of the day.
What I would recommend to some of your super intelligent elitist contributors is to book more than one appointment with a reliable dental surgeon so they can fix their broken teeth and jaws if Labour takes the helm. Bonello ‘il-Harja’ du Pesis know something about it! Excluding yourself, cause I don’t know why, got a sympathy, I would love to recall some of my past memories at the docks and witness the event!!
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Makes good material for next Sunday’s column. Keep the title as it is.
Get the police on this guy, Daphne. This was a serious threat and should be dealt with as such. I’m sure the police can easily trace him through his IP address.
”jose” has just proven to us what scumbags he and his lot are.
As to his M’e’sters degree, he can shove it where probably many have been.
@ jose What do you mean? ‘so what?’
You just portrayed your father as a thief. I would not be proud of it if I were you.
This person has medieval mentality. He should be ashamed that he threatens with violence. He should be reported to the police immediately.
Don’t be so hard on him, Tony. He’s only trying to put you in the way of a bit of business.
jose – ghandek il-Masters int? Fhiex – jekk ma jimpurtax nistaqsik? Fil-hmieg, f’l-injoranza jew fil-hdura?
Nies bhalek indannati ghax ilkom “prattikament” 25 sena fl-oppozizzjoni u ghadkom ma tghallimtu xejn. Ma tistghux ghaliha din li ghax waqa’ il-gvern ta’ Sant wara 22 xahar, bilfors tridu twaqqghu dan il-gvern ta’ Gonzi, u mhux ser jirnexxielkom.
Barra minn hekk ghandkom kull lanzita ghal Daphne minn hawn sa l-Awstralja u lura.
Jien nitlob l’Alla kuljum biex ta l-inqas taghmlu 25 sena ohra hemm ikkakkmati fl-oppozizzjoni fejn jixirqilkom.
Sorry, Daphne – I had to express this in Maltese.
@jose
It seems to me that you are not using your intelligence intelligently… X’Raguni ghandek hej!
A typical Mintoffian raised on resources scrounged off others.
What is this guy rambling on about exactly? I mean, I’m Maltese so I’m used to reading the stilted nonsensical drivel that passes for English round these parts, but this is so bad that even I can’t make head or tails of it.
Apart from the threat of violence and all – how did this guy get a “masters” from a “very renowned British university”?
Unless his degree was an M.A. in needlework and knitting or something like that, the university board must have had a hell of a time trying to understand what he was going on about in his dissertation.
Looks like either a really stupid self-incriminating labour fanatic or a fake article by a PN supporter.
It’s highly unlikely that anybody with a masters from any UK university could possibly write such bad English.
Also the bit about 25K LM salary from the dry docks in the 80s is absolute bullshit.
This ball -less hamallu, if he thinks he is so proud of his past through the labour dictatorship of the golden days of Malta, should at least have had to courage to put his real name to such a vile comment.
I will not put anything beyond the Labour supporters’ behaviour should there be a Labour victory in the next election. The Labour supporters in Valletta last Thursday gave us a preview of how they will behave and act during the run up an after the election results are known.
Comments like the above should be good eye opener to the Nationalists who have decided not to vote and to the real floating voters, who are the ones who will decide the future of Malta.
Jose you and your father are unequivocal prototypes of the useless idiots created by Mintoff and his puppets.
Hamalli u marmalja. As the saying goes, you can get the girl out of the village , but you cannot get the village out of the girl.
Beware of Labour, vote PN.
“my family is part of that 50% of the population that got everything for free, because of Mintoff.”
Yes, YOU got everything for free, damn it, you parasites – and you probably think that Mintoff did you a favour. Mintoff, the Robbing Hood.
“We got an apartment facing the Valletta bastions and a huge plot for free.”
So you got the apartment and the plot for free. My grandparents had their property confiscated in the 70s to allow squatters and parasites like you to enjoy it to this very day for a miserly ghoxrin lira Maltin fis-sena, and the bloody squatters thrived and made money whereas my grandmother, who depended on selling that property, couldn’t. Were it not for us, she’d have died of famine, thanks to your most humanitarian scumbag Dom Mintoff and the other fetid and putrid burning in hell Patrick Holland.
“my father first used to work with the government, then moved to the drydocks, thanks to Lorry Sant earning more than 25K (liri maltin in the 80s!!!) a year”
Again, this was a juicy dish to ONLY the Laburisti. Corruption and abuse of power, and you boast about it. May Lorry Sant NOT rest in peace.
“and lately retired with a nice golden handshake. One of the many golden handshake that the super intelligent Mr Bean (aka Austin Gatt) invented. SO? So what?”
The man and the party you despise so much treated everybody equally. THIS is what makes a difference. The PN government gave a golden handshake to everyone irrespective of political belief, and even to those who, like your father, obtained their position abusively.
‘Gorg il-Barri’, at least, was a real gentleman. Mintoff il-Muqran was, is and remains the scum of the earth, a betrayer, a cuckolder and a pimp. Now that’s a real epitome of greatness, isn’t it.
And I dare you to come and thrash me or try to break my teeth. Oh how I wish you would try and we’ll see who wins.
I used to think that although Alfred Sant wanted to distance himself and the Labour Party from the past and from Mintoff he never went all the way to making a clean start. Dr Muscat is not only undoing the distancing that was made but is actually glorifying Mintoff and the so-called golden years.
I think that once again Labour is misreading the electorate.
They believe that in the past election they lost because the old guard was unhappy or that the die-hard Mintoffjani were not backing the Labour Party. In reality the old guard and the die-hards are still voting for their party (on both sides) and if you want to win an election you need to appeal to the floating voters and those who are unhappy with the party they support.
My bet is that glorification of Mintoff pushes the floaters away and remaining stuck in the past does nothing to attract young voters voting for the first time. Those who are unhappy with the PN will want a better alternative (refer to post by sc) and unless the Labour party starts exposing their programme they are doomed to have a re-run of last election.
First of all I am no Mintoffiann, Daphne. And for sure I am totally against violence in any form or in any way. My argument is if you and your elitist contributors keep on spitting hatred against this 100 year old man inevitably the real Mintoffians will be infuriated. And I mean infuriated can lead to violence.
Apologies if any of your contributors got offended!
Oh, so Mintoff is a hundred years old now?
You’ll be telling us that his birthplace was aligned to the equinox next.
If there’s any class hatred, Jose, it’s coming from those who refer to themselves as coming from “is-‘south’.
Jose, you ARE a Mintoffian and you didn’t insult us: you threatened us. You cannot get out of a threat by simply apologising.
You are also a coward.
If Mintoffjani are given to violence (no surprises there) then it is they who are the problem. We are not talking here of wild animals (well, not officially) that we musn’t provoke so as to protect ourselves.
There is no excuse for their lack of self control and certainly none on the grounds of their Mintoffjanizmu. They infuriate me, but you won’t see me knocking out their teeth or breaking their jaws any time soon. And if I did, I’d be prosecuted. Why should the rules be any different for them?
First you threatened Daphne and all those who read her blog, and now you insult our intelligence by having us believe that you are not a Mintoffjan and that you hate violence. Give us a break, Jose, jahasra.
The first thing that the dentist tells you is “Open your mouth.”
Jose, you will not shut us up. You know where to shove your threat, and please do keep that orifice closed. If Labour comes to power, they might wish to use it.
You can be proud to be a Bormliz and holding a Masters. But this does not make you a civilised person. Borg Olivier, at least was a gentleman. Mintoff on the other hand was a born hamallu and his marmalja imitated him.
And Mintoff was also a holder of degrees, Jose. So you see, degrees do not make you a gentleman or civilised, but personality does.
I am proud to say that my father was from Bormla too and he was a great Mintoffjan, but unlike your father he was not a preferut among the Mintoffjani. He was employed by the government. He suffered a lot and he did this always in silence. Yet he remained faithful to his party.
You see Jose, your Mintoff did not only distinguish between Mintoffjani and Nazzjonalisti, but between one Mintoffjan and another. My father was not one of the “hamalli” who got a cosy government job and free plots or even a government apartment.
Judging from your boasting about your father’s pay in the 80s, he must have been “tal-qalba” with the Lorry Sant klikka. My dad was not a holder of degrees, yet he was a gentleman till the very end.
In his little way, he taught us to think with our own brains and that “hadd ma jgibhulek shun”, meaning that you had to work hard yourself to succeed in life. And by “hadd” he meant actually no one, including Mintoff.
So, using my own brains I had already came to the conclusion in my early teens that Mintoff was a dictator. However, I never tried to convince my parents or my siblings about it; I respected them and respected their political beliefs. And I still do, for they have remained Laburisti till this day.
Yet, we love each other as brothers and sisters should.
Mintoff, on the other hand, taught you to hate those who do not agree with you and this is evident from your last paragraph. You would probably hate your own sister if she were a Nazzjonalista.
You hate Daphne and those who seriously follow her blog (we do not read it to get a laugh as you tried to imply) because in her and in us you see a threat. Why? Because you don’t like it when others USE THEIR BRIANS rather than their balls to think.
This scared Mintoff also and that is why he limited entry into university (not for you, of course) because thinkers posed a threat to his way of governance. He knew that revolutions start when people start thinking and questioning the government or the dictator.
You are an authentic product of the Mintoffian way of thinking. You hold no degree for that, but clearly you are proud of it. That is why you still hate people who are able to THINK AND USE THEIR BRAINS.
This is the problem with your own party today. It is full of people with loads of degrees, like yourself mind you, and yet they are not able to think. They would not even dream of dissenting from party policies. Ma tarax.
Your leader does not have the decency to explain his party’s policies and how he is going to implement them. This is music for the ears of those who, jahasra, do not use their brains. But for many, many of us, it is very serious because we know that people who make promises they cannot keep are dangerous people.
As for your threat, we are not afraid any more. Mintoff’s era made us stronger, something which you have probably overseen. And, by the way, this is 2012 and not the golden 80s. And this is modern Malta and not North Korea.
Your present leader has unleashed the spirit of Mintoff; one day it will come back to haunt him. Rest assured.
Ah, you might have noticed that I am from the south too. I too went to university, but I shall resist the temptation to boast about the degrees I have, lest I fall into a Debonjata tantrum. However, I do not owe my education and qualifications to Mintoff or MLP. I had to go through the 20 point system, which probably was not so in your case. I owe it to my parents who were from Bormla. Going to university was my right and not a “pjacir” from the Mintoffian regime, as you seem to imply.
These Mintoffjani got golden handshakes in the last 20 years from Nationalist governments making them filthy rich and yet they complain.
Socialism sucks. May i add yet another PN failure to H.P Baxxter’s list – giving these lazy bastards golden handshakes instead of throwing out this uncouth filth into the real world of work.
May that scum rot in hell, twice over.
Daphne are you running on empty ? haha Is it a virtue to lie for the glory of oneself ?you lie twist and manipulate things for cash ,and its a fact ,besides that your madness is getting out of hand .
What’s wrong Kieli il Maws? Now that you’ve betrayed your true sentiments, is it time to retract?
Change that ‘maws’ because you remid us of another mouse: Maria l-Mouse – dik (dak) li ma kienetx taf x’inhi hdura u llum jilghaba tal-pur.
Lie to glorify oneself? Why – that’s something only people like Joseph and Mish would do. Or all those faux ekonomisti who surround them.
“haha Is it a virtue to lie for the glory of oneself?”
We know that Joseph Muscat, Dom Mintoff, Anglu Farrugia, Toni Abela, and sundry Elves never read this blog so you’re asking the question in the wrong place. Redirect it to the grotto and you might find what you’re looking for.
Oh, and I know that Daphne is not paid for writing this blog. I control the cash flow of the world so I know what I am talking about.
The scary thing is that these people are for real.
The crude reference to the late Dr George Bonello du Puis was about the time the less honourable Lorry Sant punched him full-on in the face, knocking his teeth out…. IN PARLIAMENT!
Read here:
“Bonello Dupuis, or ‘in-Nutar’ as many used to call him, was a “gentleman” in all respects: during his long political career he was direct, but never insulting or personal with his adversaries. In one unforgettable episode, in 1981 he was violently punched in the mouth by Labour minister Lorry Sant who crossed the floor and snatched his papers in a bid to shut him up. He never retaliated but kept the two teeth he lost as a “trophy”. ( http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2010/02/21/t4.html )
”my family is part of that 50% of the population that got everything for free”
… while the other half of the Maltese population were literally robbed of their money, land, dignity, work opportunities, education and more importantly; their rights. And to top it all, they were psychologically tortured sometimes physically tortured just because they complained or protested.
Jose, this is why many Maltese people hate Mintoff with all their hearts and raised their children, like myself, to hate him as well and be very suspicious of the MLP.
You can never understand this because you never had to suffer the same injustices that the other half of the Maltese population had to suffer during the Mintoff years.
My God… they really are alive and kicking and crawling out from under the rocks.
I kid you not, this read scared me.
Kexkixni, bil-Malti. He’s admitting, nay BOASTING, about the corruption, the hand-outs and the hdura that we went through.
I have a few experiences of my own that perhaps I should share, including the time when two unfriendly men called at my parents home asking me about my father’s work when I had applied for a job with Air Malta.
I didn’t get the job in spite of having passed the examinations and two interviews.
Daphne… this above piece is excellent material for your column, together with the story of the American teacher and The Economist, and all the other stories from the past, but peppered with the reactions of the present to show that, no, Labour isn’t new at all.
It’s not progressive and it’s not moderate.