Karmenu Vella: a total waste of space
Did you watch Bondi+?
How does the Labour Party allow Il-Guy out without a leash? Or does he make his own decisions and decide for himself that he should be the one appearing on TV shows?
The man knows nothing. He comes across as a total loss. Imagine going on a prime time TV show to talk about the living wage and the minimum wage without being fully briefed on the subject.
Il-Guy: “Hafna pajjizi fl-Ewropa ghandhom il-liffing wage.”
Bondi: “Liema pajjizi? Tista tghidli liema?”
Il-Guy changes the subject.
Bondi repeats the question.
Il-Guy tries to change the subject again, by shouting at the finance minister.
Bondi repeats the question again.
Il-Guy is forced to reply. “Issa ma nistghax nghidlek issa liema pajjizi. Imma ha nghidlek din…”
The finance minister interjects. There is not one country in the European Union which has the living wage. Not only don’t they have the living wage, but they don’t even have cost of living adjustments to wages. “There were five member states which used the COLA, just five. Malta is one of them. The European Commission put pressure on those five to remove the COLA. The other four member states removed it, and now only Malta still has it.”
Il-Guy with prime minister Mintoff in the 1970s
Il-Guy with prime minister Zero in the 1980s
Il-Guy gearing up to run our lives again in 2013 and beyond, under the prime minister he rudely (but what do you expect) calls ‘Joseph’
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Yesterday the troglodyte was on a Favorite channel program with Wenzu Mintoff, Maria Camilleri etc eulogizing Dom Mintoff.
Skond Karmenu Vella, tant kien hawn faqar qabel in 1971, li f certa areas lanqas drenagg jew fosos ma kien hawn u imnalla sar Prim ministru Mintoff, fis 1971, ghax grazzi ghalih anke il fqar ta Malta tawhom id-drenagg.
THIS IS NOT A JOKE BUT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
Ta perit li hu suppost jaf li hafna areas inbnew wara il gwerra u hafna damu ma gew connected mad-drenagg u kienu jinqdew bil -fosos. Ma kella x taqsam xejn mal faqar! Fosthom St Paul’s Bay, which in the sixties and seventies was popular as a summer residential area where everyone , including the posh villas, made do with the fosos!
Some posh areas still use fosos.
I don’t think anyone in the PL cares about what they say on Bondi+ because they know that those who are going to vote for them are going to do so regardless of what they say.
In fact, the more one criticises and challenges the PL, the stronger they become, because they are playing the game of “look at how much we are targeted! We are the victims! But we are not afraid!”
Since people don’t understand the importance of criticising a political party, they see it as targeting rather than telling the public what they really need to know about those in charge.
Exposing a flaw is an insult to them.
We have a nation of msieken. Miskin minn hu marid, mela dawn.
The thing is, I always feel that Muscat is just leading people on by focusing on their desires.
Their desire to live a better life for example.
Forget the fact that all the education they want is available free of charge with stipend and smart cards to boot to make their lives better. They want it because it is their perceived right and not because they want to strive for it.
He isn’t campaigning for office, but selling a dream, saying “Choose me and all the stresses of your life will disappear” without telling anyone how.
It’s like that stupid video “The Secret”. If you buy it you will learn how to be successful and won’t have any more stress in your life, and then all you get is this lunatic talking about how you just need to imagine being rich and hey presto you’re swimming in it.
Muscat talks about making Malta a meritocracy when it is one already. All you have to do is study and you can get somewhere, anywhere you want to.
He tells them about a new middle class as though he will magically give it to them, but he can’t.
He forgets that the only people who benefit from a meritocracy are those who study and try and do a good job. What about those who don’t study, don’t want to study or aren’t in the correct environment where studying is encouraged? Meritocracy discriminates too in that sense.
He is trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
The real problem is that many children in Malta are born into poverty because of the terrible choices their parents make. Choices that, given better guidance, are easily avoidable.
That is the problem with poverty in Malta.
I believe that to fix this problem better education must be given in schools, especially those where most of the students come from disadvantaged backgrounds, so that they are given the support and encouragement they need to feel that they do not need to be sucked down by their parents or peers.
However Muscat goes on about his new middle class (whatever that is) as though it is the government’s job to deliver this, and since the present government isn’t delivering this then it is automatically to blame for other people’s misfortunes.
So the more you attack the PL the more people think that you are attacking their opportunity to live a better life. It’s the perfect form of defence.
A government cannot create a class. It is the people who create it. The only thing a government can do is create the system in which people are free to decide what life they want. Then the people find their place.
We already have that system in place. What other system does Muscat have in mind exactly?
Spot on, Edward.
If traditional socialism was the regimentation of needs, the latest strain is concerned with wants.
I disagree when you say that he’s trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist however.
His intention is to create the problem, read these same wants, carving out for himself a new market.
It’s the PN by numbers, in twelve easy steps.
Not only are you absolutely right, Edward, but the flipside is that Labour expect praise whatever they do because the intention is good (sic), whilst PN are crucified because they get a detail wrong in some much-needed, groundbreaking project.
I’ll give you examples: Labour are praised to high heaven for setting up Airmalta, which basically overcharged us for flights for 20 years, so as to support hundreds of jobsworths, mostly from Zejtun (Wistin Abela’s district), whilst PN are dumped-on because there are waiting lists at the state-of-the-art hospital.
Exactly. I’m sick of hearing “Airmalta kienet b’sahhita!” when it should be obvious to anyone that it was a parasite on the Maltese economy – with its inflated prices forced down our throats for years and years, just so that jobs could be provided for the boys.
Well said Edward, well said Chris.
However the hospital waiting list cannot be justified. The state of the art hospital should be managed efficiently. The govt might be a victim of his own success on this one but this does not justify inefficiency and mismanagement.
Words of gold, Mr Ripard.
Thanks H.P. – you can call me Chris btw, most people do.
Tony, I’m not a medical man, so I wouldn’t like to be the fool rushing in where angels fear to tread, but I think hospital waiting lists are the result of all three stakeholders – Government, Medics and we the Clients – all wanting the impossible.
When all three parties finally bang their heads together and agree on what’s doable, instead of everyone wanting his personal slice of pie-in-the-sky, then we might get somewhere. This is just my opinion.
Agreed
It seems Labour have bought a container of assorted blue ties and distributed them to their people.
Imagine cabinet on a Monday morning, as the rest of us are allowed to work. Yeah right.
Did some business with this guy a few years ago. (deal fell through). Seemed to be an OK guy at the time. Affable, smiley, perhaps a bit slow on the uptake.
Seems that now, in his lust for power, (Finance Minister!?) he has bumped his head, or at least, lost it.
Another scary prospect.
A BIT slow on the uptake? I’d say he’s a bad case of snail brain – small, slow, and trailing slime.
Rather one should ask who’s on leash, Il-Guy or PL?
I did not watch Bondi+, so I cannot comment on the program.
However, from what we heard in the past week or so, we now know that a Labour government will set a “liffink wejc” as a sort of a desirable standard of wage level for Malta and particularly for the private sector, but will not impose it on employers.
At the same time, the same Labour government will not raise the minimum wage because, according to Joseph Muscat, to do so would be “irresponsible.”
Can someone reconcile these two positions?
Il-Guy looks much like Gaddafi in his last days in the bottom photo. It must be the girly hair-do and botoxed-looking lips.
Il-Guy resorted to personal attacks because he could not attack the argument.
I wonder if he can provide ETC/IRS documentation to prove that he never ‘forced’ his hired help into “xoghol prekarjat” – an insinuation he kept levelling at Minister Fenech.
The gall this man has is stupefying.
How can he master the courage to face the nation on TV in 2012 after his gross failures and shenanigans in the seventies and eighties and even in the 90s with Sant?
Were can we watch the program again please ? Please provide a link as I was out during the program.
For some reason TVM programmes are no longer available on demand. This service used to be provided by DI-VE but since TVM set up their own streaming website, it was stopped. Pity as most other channels are actually increasing content that is available to view later.
I watched Bondi+ and Karmenu Vella was tal-biki honestly, believe me, I am not lying tal-biki will stop here as I will start crying.
Yes, I also need to see it. Can anyone provide us with the link?.
Milli jidher ghal-Labour li biex tkun kelliem tajjeb fi programm ta’ diskussjoni trid tkun taf titpastaz: titfa’ statements bl-addocc, tinterrompi u terga’ tinterrompi , tghajjar lil avversarju “giddieb” , tghid li qieghed kontra “zewg Nazzjonalisti” , tghid (bhal-Mintoff) li l-avversarju ha iktar hin minnek u hafna tatticiu vavati ta’ zmien Mintoff.
X’hin taghsar kollox issib li Joseph Muscat veru qal li il-minimum wage mhux se jgholliha u li biha se jwegga’ lil haddiema (dik it-tbissima tieghu baqghet stampata f’mohhi). Karmenu ipprova jinkwadra c-cirku billi jitfa’ hafna statements u nofs veritajiet.
Ghal min kien razzjonali rebah Tonio Fenech, ghal min ihobb isawwat lilu nnifsu basta kontra Gonzi, rebah Karmenu Vella.
B’xi mod ikkonkludejt li l-Labour behsiebu irahhas id-dawl u l-ilma u ta’ dan inhallsu ahna il-haddiema billi ma’ tizdiedx il-paga.Ghal min jiftakar x’kien jghid Mintoff il-problema tkun li ahna NIMPURTAW l-inflazzjoni. F’kelma wahda dan il-pjan ta’ Scicluna ma’ jahdimx f’”open market economy”. Mela lestu ruhkom ghal-“import restrictions” u “import substitution”,”barter trading” u ”bulk buying”,ghax b’hekk biss jista’ “jirnexxi” b’xi mod dan il-pjan.
Qed niftakar fis-CET ma’ nafx il-ghala.
Is-sistema tal-bulk buying kienet l-ewwel haga li tkellem fuqha Joseph, erbgha snin ilu.
Dawn jekk fhimt sew, donnhom iridu joholqu stat go stat.
Interessanti kif, f’dan l-istat bil-‘middle class’ tieghu, se jkun hemm supermarkets, tour operators, djar ghal-anzjani, nsomma dak kollu li tigi bzonn.
Titkellem ma nies ta’ gewwa jghidulek li dazgur lesti jahtfu kull ma jsibu, la d-daqqa taghhom?
I missed this. Did the finance minister brief us about his recent eurozone meeting? Did Bondi ask his opinion on whether the ESM bailout fund should also bail out banks and not just sovereign debt? Did they debate Spain’s forthcoming bailout and the domino effect it will trigger, possibly unhooking all our 511-million-euro pledge.
That’s a lot of debt to add to Eddie’s €5-billion legacy. And it’s a lot of dosh to be sponging off our savings. What about our €300 million yearly debt servicing bill?
Did they discuss the precarious state of the eurozone, or was it all about the parochial zone?
I also saw Bondi + and I realy admire Karmenu Vella for the hard work he is doing because according to him he is planning a system that stops minimum wage increase, gives COLA increases, introduces new lower minimum wage for youths, and introduces living wage all at the same time.
Lanqas nibki ma niflah bit-tahwid li qed ihawdu.
Karmenu Vella looked tired and was touchy on Bondi+ yesterday. Signs of age. Is this what Joseph Muscat is offering us?
The finance Minister is not correct! Rather than blaming il-Guy, be honest for once and say the truth. In the UK, the living wage is used in various counties under the leadership of the Labour Party. Examples are Birmingham and Cardiff. It is not legislated on a national level since in the UK it is the local councils which coordinate wages and COLA equivalents. This is due to the fact there is a big difference in cost of living between different counties… eg. Cost of living in London vis-a-vis cost of living in Birmingham. In Malta this is not the case since it is too small to see income and cost of living fluctuations from one village to another, although not one single research has been done in this regard in 25 years.
I too saw Karmenu Vella on Bondi+ and could not believe that the PL had actually made a fuss and stamped its feet to send this man on television instead of Charles Mangion.
The living wage is applied in Europe, he claimed. but “offhand” couldn’t say in which countries.
Edward Scicluna proposed a lower minimum waqe for young people but, according to Karmenu Vella, he was talking about “other countries”.
I hope Lou Bondi invites Karmenu Vella again. And again.
Does anyone know why Charles Mangion didn’t obtain clearance to appear on TV?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rvvSIaHsBFY
Lou, ibqa gib lill tal-Labour fuq il programm tieghek halli naraw x’ tip ta’ intelligenza u edukazzjoni ghandhom. Imbaghad il-poplu jiggudika.
As an outsider, I can tell you that PN are more ‘socialist’ in their outlook than PL, who to me are pure National Socialist (the sort who wear mirrored sunglasses with the mirrors on the inside).
It is simply two tribes, the labels are meaningless.
Anyone want to bet that the difference in votes at the next election is less than a thousand? If LOTTO had a book on it, I’d put 100 euros on it.
I back you 100 percent on this
Veru brodu dan il-partit. Brodu il-Labour.
CoLA also known as inflation-linked salary increments, is also still used in Cyprus… its time for technocrats in parliament.