Labour’s top guru Il-Guy on television yesterday
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October 3, 2012 at 9:50am
And believe it or not, the Labour Party actually CHOSE Karmenu Vella as the best person to go along and represent it in a debate on wage freezes and the living wage: a totally uninformed man and utterly, hopelessly incompetent, who helped run Malta into the ground during the Labour government years of 1976 to 1987 and 1992 to 1998 and who is now SUPPOSED TO BE WRITING THE GREAT LABOUR PLAN FOR MALTA’S LABOUR FUTURE.
B’xiex iridu jahdmu tal-Labour ukoll. And then they’re all set, and their supporters with them, to inflict this idiot on the country.
Expensive suit, expensive tie, cheap mind and worse manners.
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Imma peress li int intelligenti hafna u communicator by profession u x naf jien … please answer me one question Daphne …
When was the last time that the PN raised the minimum wage, apart from the COLA? The COLA applies to all wages, so if Joseph had the intention to stop it is logical that ALL wages will be ‘freezed’ not just minimum wage.
I think that would be the time the PN government started giving 25 euros a week to those on minimum wage who sign up for a course to improve their chances of getting a better job.
The PN policy in action- empowering people to take control of their destiny and not wait for handouts.
That is a temporary increase for the period of the course, and not permanent one.
If you cannot distinguish between a temp increase and a permanent one how can you consider yourself a competent voter? Jesus..
Ozzy, however much Labour sympathisers may try to limit the damage Muscat did to his own cause, the fact remains that he did not exclude the COLA from his blanket “the minimum wage shall not be raised”.
“Heqq.”
Ozzy, you can only see as far as your nose. Typical PL supporter. The aim for the 25 Euro is to help those on the minimum wage to further their studies and increase their work skills to get of the minimum wage.
What you are left with at the end, is better trained workers that can move on to better paying jobs. To spell it put for you, that is jobs that will pay them much more then the minimum wage for the rest of their lives.
the PN NEVER increased the basic minimum wage apart from COLA ! Dr. MUscat NEVER said that he was going to stop COLA . So your conclusion is RIDICULOUS !
[Daphne – Mr Privitera, please restrain yourself and try not to hog this comments-board too.]
“I remain dismayed and sad that Labour leader Joseph Muscat has adamantly declared that a new Labour government will not raise the minimum wage and implying that he sees those in favour of raising it as irresponsible. ”
Lino Spiteri, The Sunday Times, 30 September 2012.
Progressive movement my foot !
Same OLD Labour
Vote Labour, Get Labour
Vote Labour, Get Labour,
Abstain, Get Labour,
Vote AD, Get Labour,
Vote PN, Fat chance you’ll still get Labour.
There’s no way around this.
@ MMuscat
Care to explain how come you opine
Vote AD, Get Labour please?
Vote PL
Get MLP
Vote Joseph.
Get Mintoff.
Vote Gonzi and you get another 5 years of UNCERTAINTY & INSTABILITY with unending in-fighting within GonziPN !
Mr. Privitera, maybe you have not noticed that:
1. Franco Debono will not be a candidate with the PN at the next elections.
2. JPOS will not be a candidate with the PN at the next elections.
This was in The Times. Is it possible that you did not read this and put any of your comments online?
Ghidli investiitur barrani mhajjar jitfa’ flusu fil-pajjiz kif jara lil dan l-iblah sejjer hekk x’jaghmel.
Tal-Labour lanqas biss ghandhom idea xiridu. Kif jista l-poplu f’ sensieh jafda lil dawn in-nies?
I’m not sure what a ‘living wage’ is, even if I recall it oozing out of the intellectual anal depths of Britain’s New Labour. All I know is that this is all parochial blather.
Whether we’ll be having a living wage on toast, or a higher minimum wage with garlic mayonaise, or five minimum wages for five different species of snails… it does not matter. Not as much as HOW MUCH money will this member state be allowed to retain after clearing its dues inasmuch as ESM contributions, debt servicing, EU budgetary contributions and fines, while possibly, and hopefully not, having to ask for a bailout ourselves (meaning more debt at higher rates and tragic conditions) and deal with Troika austerity programmes that only bring about negative growth and dysfunction.
This can only come about if we are forced to borrow and lend more than we can possibly sustain. I say ‘forced’ because the ESM’s governing board will have the authority to dictate each member’s contribution. And although our very own finance minister sits on that board, we all know that he’s as good as the chair he sits on. Even his voting power will soon be further diminished – but that hardly matters anyway, since this will be an EU-ECB institution, not Ghaqda Bocci Bingemma.
Meanwhile, the fiscal treaty, due to take effect in 2013, will ensure that our budget is supervised – indeed governed – by faceless bureaucrats and technocrats according to the parameters set by those same faceless bureaucrats and technocrats for the good of the Union’s power and control.
But what do we get from Bondi+? Parochial pep talk in honour of a moronic finance minister who’s not worth the desk he stares at.
Surely a governing board made of all finance ministers is better than banks executing the chancellor’s implicit go ahead to affirm control over individual countries.
No Jozef, the question is whether to use taxpayers money to bail out banks – more to the point, eurozone taxpayers bailing out eurozone banks. The ESM was not set up to bail out banks, but, rather insolvent states like Greece.
Agreed, but doesn’t that imply the European vocation, sorely lacking these last ten years? Berlusconi, Merkel, Sarkozy, hardly individuals with a vision.
Where does that leave your Euroescepticism, if not as a liability to the resolution of problems?
Demonising faceless bureaucrats is useless at this stage, it’s elected leaders who need to get back to the project.
Merkel, ironically enough, had to be convinced in no uncertain terms by Monti and Draghi to stop the assault on sovereign states. Her reluctance and delay to resolve the Greek issue over two years ago, wrought havoc on the markets’ confidence in the coherence of the EU itself.
The result is German and French banks who now face the risk. That the banking system needs a total overhaul, and clarity into who’s who introduced is a given. That the weight of electronic IOU’s is unbearable is another one.
Call it the new world order if you so wish, but this war, which it is, has to stop.
All good euros end up in Germany. So unless Malta starts producing or manufacturing something which everyone wants better than Germany, fat chance things get better.
‘Parochial pep talk’ …haha……this must be one of the best ever financial talks/ comments (call it what you may) on any local comment/blog I have ever seen.
You have all the next budgets of Malta in five phrases…..I like you……now the PN and LP can continue preaching their ecclesiastical equivalent of describing hell.
Din li kiteb illum Gavin Gulia fuq il-post tieghu. Dan allura jfisser li l-PL ma kellux fiducja f’Charles Mangion ghax ma baghtux…dan kliem Gavin stess li rringrazzja lil partit ghal fiducja..
Gavin Gulia
Illejla fid-930pm se nkun qieghed nirraprezenta lill-Partit Laburista fuq il-programm ta’ attwalita politika ‘Iswed Fuq l-Abjad’ fuq in-NET TV. Grazzi lill-partit tal-fiducja.
John Busuttil. Il-kelliem dwar il-Finanzi hu l-perit Karmenu Vella mhux Charles Mangion. GHalhekk fuq il-programm ta’ Lou Bondi mar Karmenu Verlla. L-importanti hu li hu l-partit li ghandu jiddeciedi lil min jibghat f’liema programm, u mhux ikun Lou Bondi jew Pierre Portelli, jew Peppi Azzopardi etc.. li jiddeciedu. Ghax il-persuna li tiehu sehem tkun qed tirrapprezenta lill-partit u mhux lilha personali !
Ta’ xiex huwa kelliemi Charles Mangion, Sur Privitera?
Tad-DNA?
Mhux veru, Charles Mangion u Edward Scicluna kelliema ghal-ekonomija u l-finanzi. Tant hu hekk li d-domandi parlamentari Charles Mangion jaghmilhom.
Karmenu Vella il-koordinatur tal-programm elettorali, assistit minn ruxxmata zghazagh, ghax il-futur taghhom.
Michelle taghzel l-ingravati, Debono Grech iqabbez u jqabbizha lin-nies, Buhagiar jigbed ir-ritratti tat-tappieri tal-Belt u Gavin Gulia dahal ghas-slaleb tal-kavallieri tal-landa u mugs bis-zejziet kbar.
Daphne, what do you think about this comment posted on Karmenu’s wall this morning?
Jonathan Cini posted to Karmenu Vella
2 hours ago
Bongu Perit. nahseb ilbierah fuq bondi+ stajt kont konvincenti hafna iktar.
Nahseb anke dawk ta madwaru qed jindunaw li qed ihawwad.
Ta madwaru xorta jtellawh avolja jhawwad ghax kien jaqdihom mil-koxxa f’kollox.
Obama: ‘They want your vote but they don’t want you to know their plan’ – We’d be so lucky if they had one.
PL’s style: when they are trapped and have no answers for straight-forward questions, they call their opponents liars.
Hamallu, pastaz, w injorant. What more could a Lejber voter want?
Hamallu, pastas, u injorant, imma l-jott jaf idahhlu l-Ghadira.
Who needs policies?
Taken from Maltatoday’s analysis of the latest survey;
‘But while support for the PN’s policies is higher than the party’s electoral strength, support for the PL’s policies stands at a lower level than the party’s current electoral strength.
In fact, while the PN trails Labour by 12% with regards to electoral strength, it only trails Labour by five per cent when it comes to policies.
While a substantial 14% of current Labour voters do not think their party has the best policies for the country, only six per cent of PN voters think that their party does not have the best policies.
This suggests that PN voters are more motivated by policies than Labour voters.’
If I were Labour I’d just try to avoid the limelight as much as possible, get Franco to bask in it instead.
This minimum wage tit-for-tat is leading us nowhere, like a Punch and Judy show that goes on past Michaelmas.
A barrage of bollocks on both sides. MLP knowing fuck all about the economy, and playing to its voter base plus the newly-empowered pepe vote, and PN, true to form, spouting the usual nonsense about hniena socjali.
It’s not the minimum wage that should be raised, but the median wage. PN did not raise the minimum wage. Good. The it introduced (“fought for it in Europe”, we are told) the ridiculously-named COLA.
Way to go. Fucking way to go. Instead of letting wages rise naturally through greater productivity and profit margins (yes, damn it, I’m talking about the civil service too. Productivity is not just something the private sector does), it effectively freezes wages (yes, freeze) and adds a few pathetic euros based on god knows which calculation, to salve its social conscience.
So much for Vizjonijiet and Futur and all that. The minimum wage was introduced to put a stop to virtual slavery, which we in Europe decreed to be morally wrong (ahem. That’s debatable), not to make workers rich, or even to allow them to live comfortably. Of course some rich bazuzli have reverted to a form of slave labour by employing black market workers, but let’s not go there.
Let me spell it out to the geniuses at PN: Raising the minimum wage, or “not freezing it”, or “not raising it but fighting tooth and nail for COLA”, won’t make a blind bit of difference to the median salary. That’s you and me, and most of Malta. THAT is why people – ex-PN voters if you like – complain about feeling the pinch even though benevolent, socially conscious PN provides COLA.
In short, the government might have saved millions by removing COLA, and the electoral result would have been exactly the same, together with the country’s economic performance.
Squabbling over the minimum wage is tackling the issue arse-first. Start with the PRODUCT of labour first. THEN talk about wages.
We’re getting there Baxxter, the product IS on the up.
Moving away from mass production to specialised manufacture to the great mantra, post industrialism, is where this place is going, dare I say very fast. You will one day order your stuff on the internet and 3D print it, (yes) at home.
I stick to the creation of material goods because it’s my field, however lately, yacht servicing, financial services, planning laws, technology startups have begun to gel together.
Then there’s that other outdated concept, tourism in numbers and the biggest headache, micro-movement of people and goods around the islands which need to be subjected to the paradigm shift.
Zagato, Wally, Swan and Ferrari have direct links to Malta, and growing.
Pharmaceuticals and their generics are looking at the bio-park for their research.
What’s alarming is how late, fossilised and out of touch this Labour party is.
I cannot understand what all this fuss is about.
We have known these people for forty years.
We know they are utterly incompetent.
That is exactly why the prospect of a PL electoral victory is so worrying.
It is the same old fools, who have been tried and tested, who will run the country to the ground yet once again.
The situation is pretty hopeless.
Every twenty five years we go back fifty and then make it all up again.
We have done it before .
You (I will not be around) will do it again, I am sure.
So please do not despair.
I am almost sure that the PL do not care less how people perceive their candidates – they seem so dead sure of winning the elections that they are quite oblivious to all the criticism being levelled at them.
Sorry to burst anyone’s bubble but this is how I see the situation. Unless the majority of the people do not use their brains and not their heart, the PL is the next future government and we have to suffer the consequences.
I believe everyone is missing what really is happening in the PL.
What’s Il-Guy’s role in the party? He is the one who established contacts with the business community throughout the past four years.
Way back in 2008 he was doing the rounds already with his so-called capable team, and came across convincingly. Karmenu Vella is the key to Labour’s tapping the necessary contacts to get the lifeline funds they desperately need.
Also, Vella was entrusted with preparing Labour’s policy. Is it really so or was it a condition to keep going? Now it seems Il-Guy is running the show using Joseph Muscat as the puppet attached to a string.
Nothing new because Muscat knows very well how to perform that role. This was so evident in one of the congress talks held recently.
When the talk regarding the financials were over, there was some very interesting body language between Joseph and Il-Guy.
It will be interesting if someone gets the relevant video clip. Muscat leaves poor wife and heads along the familiar crowd with Il-Guy giving him the instructions even suggesting whose hand he should shake.
Karmenu is quite cunning with over 40 years of experience in politics and knows all the tricks of the Labour trade. He is managing the party in disguise.
Joseph Muscat could have made it more simple by declaring that he will follow the present Government’s policy as regards the minimium wage. No one would have raised an issue. But our great Joseph went one step further and made it clear there will be no increase in minimuim wage.
It is not surprising that the Labour Party sends someone of the small calibre of Karmenu Vella to represent it on TV when its leader boasts recklessly that the creme of the creme of the Labour Party actually chose to go to hell of its own accord in the sixties and that it is eager to do so again now.
The great pity is that the Labour Party would drag the rest of the country to hell with it.