Now see what Beppe Grillo has uploaded on Facebook

Published: January 18, 2014 at 2:03am

It’s been liked and share by around 3,000 people so far.

Grillo FB




42 Comments Comment

    • monica says:

      La vendita della cittadinanza europea non sta avvenendo solo a MALTA: La cittadinanza “in vendita” è una peculiarità bulgara e non solo. L’attuale crisi economica mondiale ha spinto numerosi Stati a cercare di vendere, pur di far cassa, anche il passaporto.

      Così l’UNGHERIA ha varato una legge che concede la residenza permanente nel Paese a chi acquisterà obbligazioni magiare, in altre parole il debito pubblico di Budapest, per almeno 250mila euro.

      La MACEDONIA offre la propria cittadinanza invece in cambio di 400mila euro di investimenti che determinino la creazione di dieci posti di lavoro. Di concedere la residenza stabile dietro un congruo pagamento si sta pensando anche in SPAGNA. La proposta del governo punta alla quota di acquisto di 160mila euro per immobili. L’esecutivo punta al “mercato” russo e cinese ma anche a quello marocchino.

      A “vendere” il passaporto c’è anche la LETTONIA. Qui basta acquistare un immobile da 140mila euro per ottenere il certificato di residenza quinquiennale. In PORTOGALLO per ottenere la residenza permanente invece bisogna investire in un immobile del valore di almeno 400mila euro che sale a 500mila in IRLANDA. Nonostante i prezzi “scontati” Portogallo, Irlanda e LITUANIA non compaiono nell’elenco dei primi dieci stati in cui i russi acquistano beni immobili.

      Al primo posto c’è la BULGARIA, seguita dalla Spagna e dalla TURCHIA. C’è poi CIPRO, il paradiso degli oligarchi russi. Ben ottanta ne posseggono il passaporto, con i loro soldi, anche di molto dubbia provenienza, che stazionano nelle banche dell’isola.C’è poi il “caso” dell’ordinata AUSTRIA. Qui coloro i quali sono imprenditori di collaudata fame e i loro investimenti in Austria possono essere considerati di strategico interesse per Vienna ottengono il passaporto austriaco. Non ci sono cifre però che “aiutano” a quantificare la strategicità degli investimenti esteri.

      http://ilpiccolo.gelocal.it/cronaca/2012/12/19/news/la-bulgaria-vende-la-cittadinanza-ue-1.6222728

  1. noel ellul says:

    MA NIFILHUX NAQAW AKTAR GHAN-NEJK.

  2. just me says:

    Please like this Facebook page: Referendum kontra l-bejgh ta’ Cittadinanza Maltija.

    https://www.facebook.com/referendummaltacitizenship

    [Daphne – This is not a matter for a referendum. Enough with the Facebook pages calling for this and that. We’re supposed to be adults here. If you don’t agree with something, or if you agree with it, express your views publicly and coherently in writing. Clicking ‘Like’ in these circumstances is for the subliterate, the intellectually subnormal, or the brain-dead. This is not a boutique or a pizza we’re talking about.]

    • just me says:

      People have been constantly expressing their views and worries but the government does not want to listen.

      A referendum would force him to listen and I am strongly in favour of holding one.

      [Daphne – How wrong you are. If even some of the most dedicated readers of this website have deficient reasoning, the situation is much worse that. I am sorry to give such a strong response, but I have reached the point where I am despairing. Why would a political party led by a man who ignored the referendum on EU membership suddenly decide to take notice of one on the sale of citizenship? Because they/he took notice of the referendum on divorce? They took notice because that referendum was a tool in their hands, a tool for their purposes, not because they gave a stuff about what people think. If a referendum vote shows that Malta opposes the sale of citizenship, they will proceed regardless as they did with EU membership, carrying on with a position against and refusing to acknowledge the result. This has never been about listening. This has always been about getting into a position where they have full control and power for five years. Before the election, they listened for one reason only: to find out what they could use to get into power, to discover people’s weak points, desires and Achilles’ heels – not so as to do anything to help but to pander to them and get their vote. Now they’re in, and the listening has stopped.]

      The sale of citizenship scheme was not on Labour’s electoral programme. People did not vote for it. So it is even more important to have a referendum. This is an extremely serious matter so the people should decide. That is democracy.

      [Daphne – Again, I despair. The reason why the sale of passports was not in Labour’s electoral programme is precisely BECAUSE Labour DIDN’T WANT people to vote for it. This is not a decision taken after the election. It is a decision taken BEFORE the election, which means leaving it out was deliberate. It was left out because Labour knew it would get a negative vote. Yet the sale of passports is clearly a precondition to something and underpins something else, so it has to go through. There is going to be no referendum and no listening to what people want. Labour HAS TO sell passports. For reasons that are still unclear, it has no choice in the matter and must proceed despite the immense collateral damage even to its own popularity.]

      • just me says:

        Daphne I understand what you say, was already aware of most of it and I agree. But a referendum would make what people want official. If Joseph carries on with his scheme, as I agree he probably will, he will be considered a dictator. The whole world will know what the Maltese people really want and they will be against Joseph and his government and not Malta. I feel irritated and hurt reading comments on foreign media against us Maltese when we have nothing to blame. They will know that the scheme is the action of a dictator and not of a nation.

    • mc says:

      In fairness, a referendum (and to a lesser, extent clicking Like on Facebook) is a way of establishing what the wider public thinks about an issue. It establishes numbers.

      Few people have the skill to explain their views in writing. If not part of their day job, most people need a lot of time and effort to write. It does not come natural to most people.

      [Daphne – A referendum is not an opinion poll, and should not be treated as one. What the wider public thinks can be established by the relatively simple and inexpensive expedient of a professionally-executed survey of opinion. They tend to be fairly accurate.]

      I agree that people should make the effort to write and make their views known but other modes of expressing an opinion should not be dismissed out of hand.

      [Daphne – Clicking Likes on a Facebook comment should be dismissed out of hand immediately. It is not a considered response but verges on a nervous tic.]

  3. Gaetano Pace says:

    For a person of Beppe`s repute to have a go at our citizenship, it is the straw that breaks the camel`s back. None more need be said.

  4. Joe Micallef says:

    The language and images used by this prominent South African publisher are damning.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/malta-ignores-eu-on-passport-sales-1.1632658

  5. P Bonnici says:

    I am so relieved that I have dual nationality. My Maltese passport expired three years ago and I will not renew it now. Maltese passport holders will be treated with suspicion by foreign government if this scheme goes ahead.

    I hope the government relents and finds a better way of filling Malta’s coffers.

  6. Mr Meritocracy says:

    Didn’t Manuel Mallia say that it would be illegal to ridicule Malta’s citizenship scheme some time back?

    I’d love to him see open proceedings against the world press, the European Parliament, Beppe Grillo and the evil PN to this effect.

  7. Say it straight says:

    You’ve got a spelling mistake in the comment.. not usual of you :-)
    It should read Shared. Thought I’d let you know before anyone pounces on that !

    [Daphne – I don’t make spelling mistakes in English. I do, however, make the occasional typographical error because I write at the rate of 800 words per half-hour. ‘Before anyone pounces on that’ – you just did.]

  8. Kevin says:

    Another thing that annoys me about those defending the IIP scheme is their claim that the PN have sold Malta’s sovereignty with their EU orientated strategy and with their strong opposition to the sale of passports scheme.

    This is a false claim because it fails to recognise that, in effect, the passport scheme tampers directly with the sovereign rights of other member states. The scheme imposes by a third party a way to bypass the border controls and homeland security safeguards designed by each member state to fit their respective and unique foreign and domestic policies.

    In the referendum for joining the EU, the majority of the electorate voted “yes.” Sant, however, refused to concede and we went to the polls. The Nationalists won that with a 52% and 5 seat majority. The new government had the mandate from the people to join the Union. Malta did not lose its sovereignty. On the contrary we are members of a considerable block of countries where our sovereign rights are guaranteed. There are many laws and policies to which need to adhere. However, our MEPs make those laws and policies.

    In contrast, Muscat’s government failed to insert the IIP scheme in its electoral manifesto. This means that technically it does not have the direct mandate to introduce such a scheme. In reality while people did vote for a Labour government, they did not vote for the sale of citizenship. Indeed it may be argued that Muscat would not introduce the scheme in the manifesto because he was certain that it would cost him the election.

    Labour damned EU accession because it undermined our sovereignty as a nation. They have no qualms, however, to tamper with the sovereignty of other EU members by effectively selling EU passports.

    On the one hand, they do not want foreign interference and claim that the EU has no jurisdiction over our internal affairs. On the other, Labour bulldozes over everyone and meddle in the affairs of other states by giving the right of freedom of movement within the Union to anyone who can afford it.

  9. ciccio says:

    There are some ‘interesting’ comments there about Joseph Muscat’s brilliant idea on how to create economic growth by selling the property of others.

    While Joseph Muscat was at it, why did he not sell third-party properties in Paris, London, Milan, Berlin, Madrid as part of an all-inclusive package with the Maltese passport, and then let the buyers evict the owners of those properties on the basis that they bought those properties from Joseph Muscat?

    If international and EU law do not stop him from selling European values, what can stop him from selling the property of others?

  10. bob-a-job says:

    Malta is the only EU country in the ‘Shenanigan Area’

  11. H. Meilak says:

    One, Alfredo Potenza, says “cifre che solo malviventi possono immaginare di spendere per avere un passaporto”. “figures that only criminals can imagine to spend to get a passport”. Very good eh Joseph Muscat.

  12. Felix says:

    This is all Roberta Metsola’s and David Casa’s work?

  13. curious says:

    “Because for a person to qualify for citizenship, he had to invest €150,000 in bonds to the government at favourable rates for at least 5 years, spend €350,000 to buy property or €16,000 on the rental of such, which property had to be retained for five years, pay €650,000 in cash and go through a four-tier due diligence process.” (Times of Malta)

    Joseph Muscat is not telling us how he is going to keep tabs on those who are handed the new passports. Is he going to create a special task force/police section to check whether they don’t sell their property back or their government bonds after a few months of acquiring the passport?

    Oh, but I forgot, that Mario Philip Azzopardi has two friends from Hong Kong who will be buying a passport and open business in the film industry in Malta. Serrhu raskom.

  14. patrijott says:

    Attakk iehor faxxista kontra Malta mxewwex minn Simon Busuttil l-ghajjur u shabu.

    Ghax ma jsemmux Cipru u l-Awstrija li ilhom ibieghu il-passaporti snin? Ipokresija sfaccata. Sewwa jaghmel Joseph jinjorahom l-ghedewwa ta Malta.

  15. M. says:

    It just ges worse:

    “The Labour Party’s annual general conference this year is being held between February 3 and 9 on the theme “Malta: Maltese, European, Global”.

    PL deputy leader Toni Abela said the theme also reflects a motion delegates will be requested to vote upon. The motion is being moved by the administration.

    It speaks on the importance that Malta retains its identity as a European country while integrating itself with countries which were not members of the EU.” http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140118/local/pl-general-conference-on-the-theme.503118#.Utp3p8ukqSM

  16. bob-a-job says:

    According to Joseph Muscat, for a person to qualify for citizenship he would first have to go through a four-tier due diligence process.

    Can this be taken seriously when all it took for Joseph Muscat to engage John Dalli was for the Police Commissioner to decided independently in consultation with the Attorney General that there was no case against Dalli?

    Moreover, as in this case, Joseph Muscat had stated that he will not accept any diktat from anyone in the EU.

    http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130618/local/muscat-defends-dalli-appintment-we-will-not-be-dictated-so-by-anyone-in-the-eu.474421#.Utp_UbQ1iUk

  17. catharsis says:

    Next week Dr. Muscat will announce how the IIP program funds will be used. The next thing we’ll hear – wait for it – is that the EU is hindering the government from carrying out projects that the people (or bummers) will benefit from. And so begins the cunning anti-EU campaign.

    • Rjc says:

      Why are we still referring to Muscat as Dr? Hasn’t it been decided that not even lawyers will retain their title of Dr any longer and it will only be reserved for medical practitioners?

      [Daphne – You’re a little confused. No such thing has been ‘decided’. The difficulty with lawyers is that they are not entitled to use the honorific ‘doctor’ because they don’t have a doctorate – that is, they graduate at Masters level, not doctoral level. Joseph Muscat, on the other hand, does indeed hold a doctorate, in public policy.]

      • Mr Meritocracy says:

        Regarding your second question, no – that is not the case.

        All lawyers who have graduated will continue to be known as ‘Dr’, while somewhat confusingly, those who enter University and study law from this year onwards will still be able to be called ‘Dr’ but won’t be conferred the title of ‘Doctor of Law’.

        Hawwadni ha nifhmek, insomma.

      • Spock says:

        Inspired by Machiavelli no doubt

      • it-Tezi ta' Mario says:

        Joseph Muscat holds a doctorate. But did he earn it?

  18. Antoine Vella says:

    Daphne, thanks to you Grillo’s Facebook page has suddenly become popular in Malta.

    Never mind that some are posting (insults) in Maltese. They are defending the Fatherland, imsieken.

  19. NGT says:

    Look at this comment posted under Grillo’s piece. It’s the typical reaction of an islander with a post-colonial chip on his shoulder so big that it has retarded his capacity to think clearly or think at all.

    And I’m sure he thinks his comment was really clever – “you pointed out my flaws so I’ll point out yours”. It’s a repackaging of the old “Spanish people shouldn’t criticise hunting in Malta until they abolish bull fighting” argument. Impressive how much we haven’t moved on.

    Edward Duncan
    I think that you Italians should NOT comment about this at all. First you elect a comedian to your parliament and then make a mess of it. Do you really think that you can fix your problems in this way? Sorry but you’re wrong. You’re too fragmented to do this and your country is split in two; north and south. It’s up to each country to give citizenship to whoever it wishes to, based on the conditions that each country sets. Let me remind you that there are loads of so called “italians” that live in every part of the world and I guess that they’re given passports for some odd silly reasons, like having their great great great grand father or mother born in Italy. Come on guys be serious!!! You’ve got more serious problems to address in Italy such as brain drain, youth unemployment, general unemployment, unstable government and the list never ends. We are a small PROUD nation and we have changed our economy, perhaps you can learn something from us. I could have written this in Italian but I chose to use English as I know that most of you won’t understand. In quel caso potete sempre usare google translate!!!

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