More primitive, backward thinking: the 15-year-old girl as temptress, leading grown teachers astray
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April 4, 2014 at 11:10pm
It’s always the woman’s fault, isn’t it, even when she’s a schoolgirl.
Facebook is plastered with this kind of stupid, irresponsible and backward talk, which is even more shocking when it comes from women.
Judging by her Facebook picture, this is a mature woman of a certain age. But instead of thinking in terms of Lisa Marie Zahra as her own grand-daughter and getting angry on her behalf, she’s identifying with the poor man who “handled it badly”.
There is so much wrong with Maltese man-pleasing culture. No wonder so many women and their daughters are an over-anxious bunch of self-starving tedious neurotics loaded with anti-depressants and terrified of stepping out of line.
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Indeed – Facebook is serving for the democratisation of ignorance.
It appears that in some people`s minds mature means corporeal stature and figure, which a fifteen-year-old can achieve if adorned by nature itself.
But I cannot imagine a fifteen-year-old being emotionally, psychologically, intellectually mature unless nature has favoured that teenager with genius. So varied and thwarted are concepts in the minds of certain people. Unfortunately.
She does not see that it is very wrong for a 23 year old man to be in a relationship with a 15 year old girl, and he being her teacher from her school at that.
Some women in Malta are very judgmental with other females in a warped sort of way.
Yes, maybe our own worst enemy…..
“There is so much wrong with Maltese man-pleasing culture.”
Geez, I must have missed out on that culture in my life.
Maybe you’re not a man after all. It’s confusing these days.
No, I am defiantly a man.
I got married and fathered two children and helped my wife to raise them. I worked hard and expanded my business but I was never lucky enough to experience this “man pleasing culture” that is so prevalent in Malta.
Maybe me living most of my life outside of Malta had something to do with it, or maybe not, just luck of the draw.
I think ken il malti is right. It’s not s much man-pleasing as sex-seeking.
As in “never, ever refuse sex because you never know when you might need it again”, or “Malta qatt ma rrifjutat seks.”
The corollary is then that any sexual relationship is fine, whether consensual, slightly forced, underage, extramarital, incestuous, whatever. Ghax majtezwel tiehu n***a.
The Maltese are genetically, culturally, linguistically and intellectually incapable of refusing sex just like they are incapable of refusing food, freebies, government handouts or bribes. We’re the wifi troglodyte nation.
H.P I know the context of that Maltese “man pleasing culture” and comes from the females and it is not always in a sexual context although it can be.
I could be as non sexual as Maltese mothers overly doting on their grown son or sons and being harsh with daughters no matter how old they are.
I have seen this with some of my relatives, even ones of an older generation than mine, like my uncles.
Unfortunately for me, my parents doted more on my sisters and were quite a matter-of-fact with the boys. Although my siblings all say I was my mother’s favourite, and that must have been so subtle that I could never sense that while she was alive.
I find women like my mother, who lose their own mother at a very young age, have a very strange way and a difficult way to show affection, even to their own children.
[Daphne – The man-pleasing indoctrination of Maltese women has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with material survival.]
I agree with that, Daphne.
I can’t say I’ve seen much of this man-pleasing indoctrination among my generation. If anything, it was laghqizmu. By men and women alike. So I don’t know.
I still think the reason for the kind of Facebook comment quoted in this post lies in the grab-while-you-can Maltese culture.
Ah genetics. Like many island people that have kept themselves to themselves, with people often marrying within the village and living only a few houses away from where they were born, to endlessly repeat this cycle, it is of little wonder that our genetic pool is challenged, to say the least.
One need only take but a cursory look at some Maltese people to see a number of traits. Look at Erin Tanti, Joseph Cuschieri and Joseph Muscat for starters.
The list could go on and on.
Not all Maltese are afflicted by bad or defective genes, of course, but nobody can deny that the village mentality and limited pool of partners have been prime contributors to the inbreeding that the Maltese population suffers from.
A recent study showing the concentration of surnames, particularly in certain villages is a testament to this.
Although Malta is now expanding its genetic horizons in a smaller, globalised world, the damage done by years of inbreeding will not be fast undone. Till then, we should be far from surprised to see people demonstrating traits of cruelty, sadism, control and other abnormal anti-social behaviour, because that is what has been left in our gene pool.
In a place as dangerous to live in as Malta was for centuries, and with food and water in such short supply, only the very worst people, those prepared to do their fellow men in to survive themselves, would have lived on to reproduce themselves.
After all, what else could explain the rise to power and election of the Labour Party, if not an increase in voters who have been born without the ability to think straight.
I am really annoyed with this misconception of inbreeding. Studies have repeatedly shown that actually there is very little inbreeding amongst the Maltese and this is basically because the population is relatively young, around 500-600 years.
The main problem about these traits is actually partially genetics and environment.
The Maltese genetics is characterised by numerous founder-effects. This is basically the result of a number of individuals who arrived in Malta, mostly from Sicily and south Italy (sailors and masons), living here for an extended period of time and having a number of children at a stage in Maltese history when the population was relatively small (17,000). This can produce a similar affect to inbreeding as the particular genes would become relatively predominant.
The other side is the environment and this has the same affect, if not higher, than genetics. People want to feel part of a group, and thus if the group is stupid, ignorant, morons and generally hamalli, than this becomes the predominant trait.
I was once asked a question: Do you dress for yourself or for its effect on others?
I dress for myself. The male who asked the question reacted with convenient disbelief, and perceptible discomfort.
Ask people that question. The answer is more likely to be the latter part to it. I can count at four the number of women I have come across and asked the question to who dress for themselves.
Identity awareness and confidence versus the culture of ingratiation.
Ingratiation used as a survival skill deviates from the essential truth of the issue.
Camouflage, subservience and/or trickery make up for any improvement to personal skills required to address the reality gap.
The word compromise, or arrangement, would need a split in meaning at the point of the deviation, but unless I am missing it, I am not sure one exists:
There is the pure compromise between two independent free-standing and self-respecting parties that seeks a purity in the future arrangement on from the current one, where the position cannot be dominated by ego strength over ego weakness, but by common sense. The pure compromise could not exist if the identity of all the parties involved was not periodically fully revised and adjusted to.
There is the subservient compromise where common sense gets sacrificed because one party has a dominant position over the reality gap and is in a position to chose whether to exploit it and knowingly or unknowingly does that.
Or, when one party is knowingly in the inferior position but finds his or herself readily placing that position at the convenient disposition of the other for some perceived gain, sacrificing not only common sense but identity.
Identity will be weakened or reinforced. Identity can be positive or negative.
Habit will condition how perception sensors pick up the signals.
Personal value filters are what determine which signals get placed in the decision basket. Just as old shabby rags should be removed from a wardrobe, so should value filters be revised.
The understanding of the confines of any relationship may be mismatched. The general assumption is that the boundaries are at the minimum both legal and moral.
One’s perceived notion of respect often replaces the foundation principles within any relationship that require common sense to be present for that relationship to be a healthy one.
Without common sense, there can be no true respect. If self-respect is deficient, on what rational basis does one then deal with others?
Common sense: the result of the application of deliberate rational thinking processes in a well-prepared mind, sharpened by experience.
Exploitation: Any detraction from the application of common sense aimed, consciously or not, at producing a result based on unfair advantage.
This woman is plain stupid. The result of poor education.
Strange that all these twisted comments come from sick silly names ending in elle use of shhhh.
You rarely hear ridiculous comments from old stable names like Mary, Anna, Joan etc.
It has to be some like joinelle, louannelle, kendra shayenne , shashelle , more shhhhs and dangling elllles. Jukkkk. What a sick society.
Social media is definitely ruining our children.
This article about the well-known Actor James Franco is another example: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/grandmother-james-francos-schoolgirl-seduced-3376309
“James Franco was accused of chatting up a blonde 17-year-old on Instagram – and now the actor has confessed and admitted he is “embarrassed” about the exchange.”
At least, he was mature enough (or at least so it seems) to admit his BIG mistake. Even though the girl was turning 18 in a few days, still it’s not nice.
There is a reason why the honey-trap works extremely well in Malta: a large number of men do not have any self-control, even in the lightest of exchanges. And this also reflects itself in other circumstances.
[Daphne – I agree with you completely. Maltese men IN GENERAL are the kings of inappropriate remarks and behaviour. They have no idea how to speak to girls and women without innuendo or sexualisation of the conversation. Even their voice and tone change: they have one tone for conversation with other men, and another tone for conversation with women – which conversation (obviously, because women are stupid and uninformed and must be talked to in a ‘lighter’ way) never goes beyond inane teenage banter, even with 50-year-olds.]
I’ll get a torrent of abuse for saying this, but has anyone else noticed that the inappropriate behaviour by men has conditioned women to behave like tarts, even in a professional environment? Or is it just me and my generation?
It’s an office, not a lounge bar.
[Daphne – No, it’s my generation as well. And believe me when I say that there is no sight more pathetic and irritating than that of a woman of 50+ giggling, eyelash-batting, trying to be sexy and talking like a moron in a 1950s sitcom because there are men around, with the men responding in kind and proving the point that wrinkled foolishness is so very much less attractive than wrinkled gravitas.]
I hear there are a few of those tarts in the Home Affairs Ministry.
My goodness, how can some be so ignorant when it comes to grooming, manipulation and abuse.
How can they not realize that life, like a theatre production, is not just what one sees on stage, but that a lot more goes on back stage and timelines extend much beyond the few scenes and life situations which we get to see!
So if this lady met a victim of Stockholm Syndrome she would just say that the abuser and abused are in love, full-stop.
What is this ignorance a symptom of, telenovelas, rubbish magazines and news reports?
[Daphne – A combination of lack of imagination (Maltese people in general have absolutely none; it is a literal society), lack of experience of life coupled with massive lack of insight, and a genetically low IQ which is the root of most of these problems. We tend to think of a range of IQ levels as being the norm even in a genetically undifferentiated island society, but think about it – how can that be possible? Just as there is a dominant height (short), a dominant figure type (squat, with short limbs), a dominant hair texture type (coarse and frizzy) and a dominant hair and eye colouring (dark brown), there is likely to be a dominant IQ gene, too.]
This is really unbelievable, the kind of reasoning one expects to find in a very staunch Islamic mentality where women are socially inferior.
But to blame a 15-year-old for luring men is absolutely not on.
Then I should start stealing anything which attracts me if we are to start accepting such twisted reasoning.
What would the kind lady say, if it were her own granddaughter?
Incredible and hard to believe. A 15-year old girl, whose life was destroyed by this perverted subhuman species, has now become the “criminal”. They have no respect for her memory and neither for the immense suffering that her father is going through.
Let us hope that none of the good lady’s granddaughters or grandsons will have to go through what Lisa Marie suffered.