Malta gears up for the barbecue season
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Speechless ;-(
Hawn l-ghaks?
What a nation! All the elements I expected before even watching the video are there; the swearing, the vulgar shouting, the pushing, the ubiquitous striped/checked straw bag, the horrible fashion ….
Anyway love the occhi-di-gatto-meshed-with-Beautiful-style-jingle!
….and the wobbly arses.
Well, I think it goes to show how other supermarkets are ripping people off. Yes, the customers’ behaviour is, errr, spectacular but the message is clear.
Tim Ripard – The “rush” is for the “one-time-only” offers (which are not always bargains), which change on Mondays and Thursdays every fornight or so.
If you go to a Lidl outlet at any other time/on any other day, it’s pretty quiet in comparison, though it always strikes me that the average customer would have their trolley laden with large packs of soft drinks.
(And in case you’re wondering, yes, I do pop in myself every now and then if I happen to be in the area and need a couple of basic things, though only if there happens to be a parking slot outside.)
As for the behaviour being “spectacular” and “the message being clear”, I wouldn’t agree. The sort of people who behave that way are the sort who STILL insist on coming back from Sicily with quilts and pillows, although there’s a vast choice here twenty years+ on from our days of deprivation.
Maybe its the ‘gaxin’ instinct being passed on from our forefathers.
There will always be ‘the sort of people who come back from Sicily laden with quilts etc’ (just as a fairly large segment of the population aspires to a government job as a watchman, a government subsidized flat and demands all their needs, e.g. medicine for ‘free’) – I agree with you there and I see your point.
However, it’s also a sad fact that Maltese consumers pay through the nose because many areas of the market for consumer goods and services are dominated by oligarchs or quasi-monopolists and there is no real competition.
You guys ain’t seen nuthin. I was once persuaded to take a visiting friend to the opening day of Harrods sale in Knightsbridge. Now that’s a stampede. Crockery smashing and flying all over the place, people trampled underfoot, a tug-o-war with a full length mink as the rope, pokes in the rib, no air to breathe – an absolute nightmare. I somehow survived to tell the tale. Lidl is kid’s stuff.
I agree with John on this one. You should see the rush to get into places like Walmart and Best Buy here in the U.S. when they have their one-day sales.
But those are one day sales – this is twice a week!
OK Tim. You got me there. You can rest your case!
Lidl is the same all over the world. In the UK and Ireland these seasonal offers are known to be sold-out within the first hour.
The difference is that the people here have probably made a hobby out of LIDL. Why queue at 6.30am otherwise, simply to buy a cheap barbecue or sun-bed cushion which could easily be bought elsewhere, often at the same price, if not for less?
…what about adding…a pinch of Salt?
…or is this a bigger version of Lidl?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1174210/30-stone-mother-feeds-baby-triplets-junk-food-diet–admits-McDonalds-just-months.html
That’s nothing new at all – when the authorities started issuing pension and social security cheques back in the 1970s, the bank branches used to have huge queues forming up to an hour before opening time. The stampede as the doors were opened was something to behold – old men trampled underfoot and nobody giving a damn. Those last-Friday-of-the-month-stampedes were always something to look forward to.
Mario P: That still happens in some places.
L-istess mentalita’ tal-kjuwijiet tan-nisa bit-tappini tal-Coke u l-Kinnie.
Nahseb li nofs dawk l-irgiel minflok qeghdin ix-xoghol, qeghdin bis-sick jew bid-dole.
Veru li l-Maltin ghandhom hafna hin x’jahlu. Mhux ta’ b’xejn li hafna nisa ma jridux jahdmu, u l-irgiel taghhom kollha bic-certifikati tal-mard.
Probably that’s the only form of exercise some people are getting. Five minutes of sprinting, twice a week, biex ipattu ghall-Hamm Bergers u s-Sosigis ta fuq il-Barbikjun.
Who knows, maybe thanks to Lidl we won’t remain the fattest nation in Europe, or is it the world? Possibly the universe.
X’misthija.
Aha, but LIDL also apparently stock cheap sausages, burgers and the like!
Nothing related with the above, just a story on the BBC website that I have to post. This bit below is particularly haunting.
The authors of the note “were young people who were trying to leave some trace of their existence behind them”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8022667.stm
That made my skin crawl. What were the chances of the note being found intact, I wonder? Just a very sad reminder of something that many people deny ever happened.
It’s not the first time I’ve stuck a needle into somebody’s arm adjacent to their concentration camp number.
Only one of those men survived:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8022860.stm
If this is a ”sample” of the population, no wonder Angelik has got them hooked.
Coincidently I posted the same link on my Facebook page, with one friend summarising the situation as “jekk fihom difett, Malta kollha bla bbq’s dan is-sajf”.
Daphne, I’m pretty sure I spotted you in the crowd, come on come clean!
[Daphne – I don’t even have time to do the normal Scotts xirja…if only…]
David……LN386/2005 – article 8 last paragraph.
They sell the best yoghurt this side of Germany……. And the cheapest. But queuing at 7 a.m. for a bargain. No thank you.
Really and truly it depends what bargain you are getting, which makes this so sad.
I’ve never queued up to get something cheap nor to get something before anyone else. I thought those iphone queues in NYC were pretty sad, to be honest. Yet half of my more expensive belongings have been bought at half the price of the same thing retail from a shop – except my mobile, bought BNIB for Lm80 from ebay and on sale at the time from a certain shop in Naxxar for Lm273.
That’s a real bargain, and queuing up for some barbecue.
That’s the Hal-Safi Lidl. We go there there like many people do. One can find value for money on many items. Some people seem to buy things there which maybe are good value for money, but are not really needed. On the other hand, pasta, flour, canned tomatoes, sugar, soft drinks and wines are well below the ‘established’ cartel prices we find in our groceries.
Once I saw a very loooong queue near an ASDA market in the morning, and yes I heard that there was a stampede when the doors were opened.
Someone told me a story about a similar queue at Lidl where a man went in and took all the drills from the bargain shelf, leaving the other customers empty-handed.
All that bdabadismu for a cheapo BBQ set ! Its not as if they are expensive elsewhere. Unbelievable. On the subject of BBQs summer is soon here. Doubtless we will soon find our beaches reeking with leftover charcoal and detritus. It’s about time we banned them. Or else introduce BBQ wardens or something to make sure that people don’t leave a mess. Of all places, Turkey bans BBQs unless they are held at an approved site. You go there, a government official gives you a BBQ set with clear instructions that you have to bring it back along with the charcoal once finished. If not, and if you leave your designated site dirty, they can actually throw you in prison. An analogous example is their marinas. You can swim in their marinas, they are that clean. If you wash your boat with detergent or if you pump out your bilges or holding tank in the marina, your boat is confiscated and put up for auction the next day. There have been quite a few hapless foreign yachtsmen who have been caught and had to buy their boat back the next day. Including one Maltese skipper who shall remain nameless. They take no prisoners there when it comes to keeping the coast clean.
Banning does not work here and it surely won’t work with me. Ban barbecuing, and I’m sure the beaches will be hosting more barbecues than ever. I think that education is the solution to the littering problem. There are plenty of litter-bins on the beaches and there are cleaners who clean the beaches every morning when that herd of bison is still sleeping. I believe the litter on the beaches is less than it was 10 years ago. And if you want clean sea-water to swim in go to Marfa. Few people go there and it is open sea, thus no rubbish floating around.
All boats leak some oil from their engines. The sea-water in harbours, marinas and ports always has a thin film of oil on its surface due to the omnipresent oil leaks from boat engines. And let’s be real, who would want to swim in a marina?
I beg to differ, John. Experience has shown that education and regulation do not work in Malta. It is laws and more importantly the enforcement of laws that works. Look at the smoking ban in bars and clubs. I have not been to any bar or club in the last two years where people were not openly breaking the regulation … the reason is that this law is not enforced and the chances of being caught are minimal. On the other hand you rarely see anybody driving and not wearing a seatbelt nowadays and the reason is simple, the chances of getting caught are considerable and the penalty relatively steep.
Whenever I travel to Nordic countries and use the trams I am amazed at how there are rarely any spot checks, therefore the chances of being caught not paying are low, yet everyone pays. I cannot help wonder what would happen if the same thing were tried in Malta.
Well, you get hundreds of pretty things queuing from the previous evening with no food or toilet faculties for an afternoon audition … http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/nyregion/15model.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=America's%20Next%20Top%20Model.&st=cse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3BMeofU9k&feature
Is anyone following Biografiji? Are we supposed to take it as some kind of history documentary? It is very selective in its comments.
Well, we’ve seen this happen in the movies, so if the Italians can do it and the Brits can do it and the Americans can do it, why can’t the Maltese? What’s the problem with that? Isn’t that the reason why the BBQ sets were at 20 euros only….it was really worth it. I didn’t know about it. I would have gone to buy one too. That is good business and those were families who want to enjoy their BBQs this summer and they wanted to buy a good BBQ for a good price rather than a cheap BBQ for a relatively high price because that is what we are really getting in our shops…..cheap things with relatively high prices. The cameraman should have gone to other places to see how much BBQs cost and I am sure the comments here would have been different.
The video is absolutely hilarious! But like John said this says nothing about Malta and the Maltese. It happens all over the globe. You should go to the US or UK and see some of the wobbly arses, the fashion sense and hear the eloquence of those standing in line waiting for the stores on sale to open their doors at the break of dawn. Tutto il mondo e’ un paese. We are not that special after all u l-anqas fil-hamallagni m’ahna ser nerbhu il-first prize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
On another note, someone sent this video to me, and it wasn’t the usual alarmists. If the figures are right, and I did check some figures, then this video graphically paints a different future to that which we live in.
Don’t get me wrong, I am all for helping immigrants washed up on our shore. But I wouldn’t like my children’s children to be subjected to the pressures of an Islamic EU, complete with Sharia law.
[Daphne – Mario, you can’t have sharia law in the European Union. It’s a contradiction in terms. Sharia law just means that religious laws are the laws of the state. Catholic countries had ‘sharia law’ for ages, Malta until very recently.]
It’s one of the reasons why I support the Catholic Church. At least, Catholicism is a civilized religion.
[Daphne – All the religions of the book are civilised. It is the people who presume to administer them who are sometimes not civilised. This happened in Catholicism, too, which is why people were tortured, burned and boiled as heretics. The excesses of Catholicism were controlled from without by secularism and not from within. Left to its own devices, the Catholic Church would be no different to fundamentalist Islam, seeking to control lives and situations.]
Islam, as practiced by the majority of Muslims today, is not the religion I would encourage my children to choose.
[Daphne – Almost nobody chooses their religion, Mario. You end up with it by default.]
Any comments? I can’t say I believe wholly what this video says. I’m sure there is some fundamentalist agenda behind it. But it’s scary.
Daphne, you may be right. Or wrong. What if there was enough of a Muslim majority in a country like, say France, that would elect enough deputies to change the law?
[Daphne – The point is that you can’t change the law, Mario. Wasn’t that one of the reasons we voted Yes – to ensure that our rights would no longer be tampered with or trampled upon?]
It may happen. Remember Hitler? He managed to take over Germany, in the doldrums of a recession at the time.
[Daphne – Yes, exactly. Hitler and his consequences are the main reason there is a European Union today.]
Your definition of sharia law is not entirely correct, because the way it’s administered is erratic. No one interprets it, its just a bunch of mad mullahs who decide what should happen, or not.
[Daphne – That was my point. It has nothing to do with religion, but with power-hungry fundamentalists, often with a sadistic streak. The Catholic Church was governed in precisely the same way, with the same cruel consequences, if not worse ones.]
As for the Catholic Church, it burned many innocents at the stake. Left to its own devices, it wouldn’t try and control anyone, it’s already lost that battle.
[Daphne – Innocence or the lack of it is no justification for burning somebody alive, whatever the circumstances.]
You may be right about choosing religion, but young people nowadays experiment with other faiths and outlooks. I’ll not stand in their way, unless my son starts wearing a beard and spouting Muslim dogma, and toting an AK47 under his robe. You would too, in the circumstances.
[Daphne – The only children who grow up to do that are the ones who have been f**ked over by their parents. If you don’t do that, you won’t have the consequences to deal with.]
Don’t laugh, it has happened to quite a few families in Malta.
[Daphne – Yes, but not out of the blue. You’ll find that the parents are loopy themselves, out of touch with reality, far too strict, or far too lax. Very few kids are actually born nuts. They are usually driven mad by their parents. I know a few cases too, from my generations and my sons’.]
“Daphne – The only children who grow up to do that are the ones who have been f**ked over by their parents. If you don’t do that, you won’t have the consequences to deal with.”
You wll find that unfortunately, much more than in your time, parents aren’t the only people who can influence children nowadays. It’s also more difficult to instill self discipline as well. I’m a late parent, 42 with a six-year-old and a six-month-old. I sometimes can’t keep up with my son. We’re not too strict or lax. He goes to a good school, but weird things happen or are said in schools, school vans and other places. I think your view is a tad simplistic when you don’t take into account peer pressure, the mix of parenting styles we have reflected in our youngsters today, and the effect of the media.
[Daphne – I don’t think it’s simplistic at all. You put your finger on the root cause of many problems: the age-old generation gap. The closer in age a parent is to children, the easier it is to work out what is going on. Age isn’t everything; you also have to understand the mentality and to have been there and done that. It’s still difficult, but it’s that much less difficult. Of course, younger parents have problems of a different sort, mainly financial. I still can’t work out what’s best, but on the whole I think I wouldn’t have coped with becoming a parent in my 30s and having to deal with, in my 50s, the sort of things that really took it out of me when I was only in my 30s and having to deal with sons in their late teens. I remember thinking at the time that it’s no wonder older parents sometimes seem to be on an entirely different planet where their teenage children’s behaviour is concerned. If you’re in your 50s, going to sleep and turning a blind eye is a lot easier and certainly less exhausting than waiting up to have a screaming row at 5am and then having to do your work as usual the next day. Young parents are often ‘traskurati’ when their children are young and you wonder how the children survive, but then they are the opposite of ‘traskurati’ at that crucial stage in life when things can go haywire, because they are close enough in age to know all the tricks – not because they have been to some tedious Cana parenting course, but because they clearly remember life on the other side of that fence. Older parents are at a huge disadvantage in this respect: they are either too strict and inflexible, filling their head with wild stories of danger, so that their children either become total saps or run right off the rails, or they are too naive and lax, believing everything their children tell them and taking it all at face value. Even a highly suspicious and clued-up mother of 37 can be hoodwinked, so imagine how much easier it is to hoodwink a fond mama of 55 or a fond papa of 60.]
Mario Debono says the obvious: “Daphne, you may be right. Or wrong. What if there was enough of a Muslim majority in a country like, say France, that would elect enough deputies to change the law?”
Daphne replies: “The point is that you can’t change the law, Mario. Wasn’t that one of the reasons we voted Yes – to ensure that our rights would no longer be tampered with or trampled upon?”
Are you serious, Daphne, or just plain ignorant? You are just like ‘Homo Sovieticus’ singing proletarian songs of glory, or the millions who thought the Third Reich was God’s gift to Germany. You may see through many frivolities, Daphne, but your own naïveté flies past you. The EU is your Achilles heals, because, as you yourself remarked, you are ‘a focussed person’ and EU citizenship was all you wanted. Couple that with your presumptuousness and you get a good dose of banality. I could call you a globalist – but you wouldn’t know its true meaning and globalists generally do.
[Daphne – Hohum, Kevin. The trouble with you is that you and your wife think of the EU as fascism, when actually it is the opposite. I find it amusing that people who grew up on an island under the Catholic boot should be so fearful of living under the boot of another religion. Living under the boot of any religion is bad, and what increased secularisation in Europe has done is erode all that, fortunately. If people want to live as Muslims or Catholics, it’s up to them. I trust you respect freedom of religion. The point at issue is forcing others to live by the rules of a religion they do not espouse, or even forcing them to live by the rules of their ‘religion’ when those rules are in head-on conflict with human rights or the laws of the land (forced marriage, honour killings…). Generally, these are not even religious laws, but social codes that predated religion. The tension in Europe is not between one religion and another but between all religions and secular laws.]
Mario I recommend a course in parenting skills which Sedqa and Cana organise for parents like you.
Me and my better half attended these courses some thirteen years ago and I can tell you that we put a lot of what we learned to practice with good results.
Parents tend to bring up their children the way they were brought up. Which is not always good.
These parenting courses are based on the teachings of Alfred Adler and are organised by qualified professionals on the subject.
Basically it’s a lot of common sense which nowadays is not that common and obvious.
To drive a car one must go for driving lessons , and pass a driving test.
Aren’t your children more important than a car? Invest some time for your children’s upbringing now and they will reap the benefits as they grow up.
[Daphne – Well, if I say that a Cana course on parenting is useless and that tal-Muzew is actually detrimental to a child’s mind, John Schembri comes out and recommends both. Parenting courses are useless for all but people who were brought up in barns, John, because real life throws up situations that the guide-books and the Cana courses don’t teach you about. In my experience (and it’s extensive), the worst sort of parents fall into two categories: the supremely selfish and incompetent (drunks, the emotionally retarded, the shallow and materialistic) and the supremely ‘competent’ (Cana counsellors, marriage counsellors, prayer-group members). The damage caused by the latter is not always immediately evident. Their children may lead obedient, repressed lives until they reach their late 30s and then break out. When I was growing up, I knew the children of two Cana counsellors who were forever on the Rediffusion telling other people how to bring up their children – while their own children lived on the streets, let themselves in after school, and then graduated to all sorts of sleaze and trouble. Children are not cars and you don’t learn how to drive them. If you have to be taught how to love and look after your own children, then God help you. One of the worst parents on record was Benjamin Spock.]
Here’s some sound advice. Stop viewing the world in terms of the more recent past and observe current political developments through research from primary sources. Meanwhile, cross-reference your findings to the remote past and try to fathom the future.
As to thinking “of the EU as fascism”, that is totally incorrect. I am fully aware of the positive aspects – which, I remind you were achieved by the nation states not by the EU – now try to release yourself from that box. And don’t forget: I know how Europhiles feel because up till around 1990 I was one myself.
[Daphne – Then what happened? Let me guess: you saw an apparition and heard voices showing you the light.]
So according to Daphne we don’t need Sedqa, and social workers, Alfred Adler’s theories should be thrown out of the window because Daphne says so.
[Daphne – You’re confusing two entirely different things. Sedqa and social workers are there to help people with problems. They are not there to teach entirely normal people in normal families how to live. My point was that we have developed a dependency culture to the point where we think we need help, lessons and guidance to do even the most basic things, like relating to a spouse and bringing up a child. We need somebody to hold our hand all the way. The result is not better spouses or better parents, but weaker and more inept ones who give up the minute they can no longer lean on any one or receive reassurance that what they are doing is fine. Alfred Adler lived between 1870 and 1937, for goodness’ sake.]
Daphne, if you never attended Sedqa’s parental skills course how can you say it’s all BS?
[Daphne – Because these are things that you can’t teach, just as you can’t teach somebody to be a good husband or wife. No amount of Cana courses have ever made a good marriage – indeed, marital breakdown is escalating even though the courses are compulsory for those who marry in church. And despite the welter of parenting books and parenting courses, children have never been so unhappy even though they have never been more safe and comfortable in the history of humanity. They are bossed, bullied and every minute of their day is controlled by constantly hovering, domineering adults with some agenda and a plan. It is the whole person that makes a good parent or a good spouse, and the whole person is created from birth and cannot be made instantly and overnight in a crash course. Children can tell if their parents are deploying learned lessons and so can spouses. It comes across as false because it is false.]
Some people love their children but spoil them with the way they bring them up.
[Daphne – I have strong views on what constitutes spoiling, and I rather suspect that they are accurate ones. Spoiling does not mean giving children whatever they want. It is perfectly possible to give children whatever they want and still end up without spoiled children. Spoiling comes from imparting a shallow and materialistic attitude and more importantly, from allowing children to believe that the sun shines out of their butt and that they are allowed to be ill mannered and insufferable because they are children. Maltese children are grotesquely ill-mannered and poorly behaved. Their table manners are hideous, they are allowed to run around in restaurants, they talk back, they can’t converse, they whine and shriek – ghastly. Everywhere I go on this island I see one of two types of parent: the ones who beg and plead with their children to obey, and the ones who threaten them with violence. Can this behaviour be unlearned through a parenting skills course? I don’t think so. You’d have to change the whole of the parents’ psychology. It’s not a simple matter of telling them: never plead with your children or speak violently to them.]
Yes, there are those people who tell others what to do but fail miserably when they come to practise what they preach. I know of many doctors who smoke. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take heed of their recommendations against smoking.
[Daphne – Do as I say and not as I do? It never worked for anyone, parents least of all.]
As far as I know, tal-Muzew never organised parental skills courses. Sedqa and Cana do and their courses have been beneficial to many Maltese families. I and many others recommend them.
[Daphne – And I recommend no courses at all, because the only things that parents need to know are these: from an early age, make sure your children have perfect manners, respect for others, and know how to dress and converse so that can go anywhere and will always be pleasant company, open their minds, don’t hector them, don’t bully them about studying, and above all, leave them alone and let them breathe. Between the ages of 13 and 18, keep an eagle-eye on them, don’t suffocate them with curfews because, as you told your own parents, you won’t be doing anything at 4am that you can’t do at 1am, and don’t visit your own dreams and ambitions on them because they are not an extension of you. And of course, it’s always best if you carry on living with their other parent because children of all ages have serious trouble coping with the idea of their parent shacking up with somebody who is not their parent, however brave a face they might put on, and one way or another it’s going to come out, sooner or later. This is the bit of advice that parents like least – but tough, it’s a fact.]
Exactly! It was Angelik.
@ Daphne: what you suggested about child upbringing does not clash with what Sedqa social workers lecture.
[Daphne – Bingo! And I never went to a Sedqa course, a Cana course, or tal-Muzew. Now I wonder where I learned all that…..let’s have a guess.]
But there are more questions by parents which are not that easy to answer. Should parents resort to physical punishment?
[Daphne – No, for God’s sake, isn’t that obvious?]
Should they treat their teenage children as friends?
[Daphne – No, absolutely not. Parents are parents and friends are friends. You need your parents to be your parents because your friends are people you choose for yourself. The role of parent and the role of friend are different. The LAST thing children and teenagers want is their parents trying to be their friends. I knew mothers who were proud of the fact that their teenage sons (and daughters) told them everything – or so they thought. I wanted to tell them that if their son was telling them everything, then his psychological development wasn’t normal, he was emotionally retarded, or he had no life. As we grow, weare supposed to have secrets from our parents. It’s a matter of privacy. We tell our friends things we shouldn’t be telling our parents, and that’s one reason parents can’t ever be friends, and shouldn’t try to be. Imagine the full-on creepiness of a parent telling you their inner-most thoughts and giving you details of who they fancy – revolting.]
Should we leat our kids learn from their own mistakes?
[Daphne – Yes, but only if they insist.]
How can we teach our children to be assertive?
[Daphne – That’s easy. Give them a backbone and don’t send them to places like tal-Muzew where they get slapped down.]
Parents who think they are not good as Daphne should think seriously about going for a Parental Skills course.
http://www.sedqa.gov.mt/primaryprevention_parentalskillsprogramme.asp
[Daphne – I strongly advise against it. The trouble with a lot of parents is that they’ve somehow – unbelievably – forgotten what it’s like to be on the other side. The clue to parenting is damned simple: put yourself in your kid’s shoes. I would never have gone to a parenting skills course if for no other reason than that I can imagine how I, as a child, would have reacted to my parents going to one. They’d say X and I would yell back “Oh, is that something they taught you at Parenting Skills, by any chance?” Come on, you can’t be serious. If your children are any age above 10 and they know you’re going to Parenting Skills lessons, you’ve bloody well had it before you’ve even begun. It’s just so false. Do you think children with the merest bit of intelligence can’t tell when you’re unsure of yourself and following lessons somebody else has just taught you? The only lesson worth knowing: remember what it was like, and behave accordingly.]
I’ve witnessed this type of scene at Primark in Oxford Street……and no, it was not a January sale or anything like that. We are no better and no worse than anyone else.
And they want us to believe that we are all living in poverty – u halluna!
SIMPLY GREAT VIDEO – MADE MY DAY.
THANKS DAPHNE.
I’m sure anyone who has just seen this video is feeling that slight tinge of patriotism. OW MAJ GOD E!!!