Gas tank location is feasible – former Enemalta chairman
The land where the Labour Party is proposing to put two gas storage tanks at Delimara should not pose a problem, according to a former Enemalta chairman.
Architect Joe Ellul Vincenti said tonight that as long as the tanks were built correctly, the land in question was not problematic and other areas of the Delimara power station were also built on reclaimed land.
Mr Ellul Vincenti was appointed Enemalta chairman in the early 1990s by a Nationalist administration.
He made the statement in Ta’ Giorni where Labour leader Joseph Muscat was being interviewed by Simone Cini and Robert Musumeci.
Finance Minister Tonio Fenech had raised doubts about the site identified in Labour’s plans for the two large storage tanks. Similar doubts were raised by former Enemalta chairman Robert Ghirlando.
After paying Mintoff the odd million euros for L-Gharix because of the siting of the power station, this architect may have the same idea to sell some useless land in the area.
The issue is not whether it is possible to build them on the reclaimed land but what it would cost.
Everybody is aware that such technology and knowhow exist; just have a look at Burj Al Arab built on the shifting sands on the coast of Dubai. The only difference is that it was built in a country where really money is no problem.
And the former Enemalta chairman has no experience with building gas power stations. So he is no expert.
The English independent expert on Net TV today said to MAKE the place safe it will take a year long study just about that.
From what was said, I think all in all it will take from 6 to 10 years to tender, study, complete everything and build the gas power station, tanks etc.
Illejla ghamilt home visit lil mara li qed tbati mill marda tal cancer u mort ukoll ghand familja li ghandha bint li ghaddiet min ‘bone marrow transplant’. It tnejn esprimew ringrazzjament ghall kura b xejn li rcevew minghand il Gvern. Iz zewg familji esprimew id dispjacir taghhom ghall fatt li Muscat donnu qed jipprova jaghmel kapital politiku min tbatija ta nies li ghaddejjin min mard serju. Il-poplu malti jisthoqqlu ahjar
“I have been interested in alternative energy for a very long time now,” he says. Nine years ago, a firm owned by Ellul Vincenti and a Swedish specialist company had applied with the Malta Resources Authority for the construction of a wind park at Wied Rini – a site just off Ċirkewwa, which has now been short-listed by government as potentially viable for such a project.
“I spoke to various ministers about my plans, and I have been encouraged to go ahead and apply because I was reassured that my idea fell in line with what government was after. But nobody has given me the green light yet. After all this time, our partners have undertaken projects in Sicily, Germany, Poland and South America, while in Malta, all we can do is wait.”
With Konrad Mizzi as Minister for Energy after 9th March, could things be fast tracked?
And they are all people who can sail financially through life very comfortably.
Don’t they ever plan to enjoy their twighlight years?
Isn’t there some country that they would like to visit and which they haven’t yet visited for free throughout their careers? I am sure Norman Hamilton can advise.
It is suddenly dawning on me that this commotion is intended to create a nationwide discussion which is cleverly and artfully taking all the attention away from the more serious problems.
One horror which is facing this nation is that it might be run by an inept bunch which could send us all to the wall.
This 25% electricity bill reduction should never be the focal point of an election. It is not possible, whoever has a fraction of common sense knows this.
What should be seriously worrying is that we have a leader who thinks he knows it all and is 100% inept to take over a country which is going through very sensitive times.
Labour is reputed to talk big but when it takes the wheels of power all the smiles go and vanish. We would be the stupids.
One real horror is that Muscat was so anti-EU in the first place, that it would not surprise me in the least were he to aim to pull Malta out of the EU.
Grezz don’t get too uptight about the absence of EU flags in Labour’s last meeting. The same happened in 2008 and only days before the election a handful of EU flags were scattered around the crowds.
Can anyone imagine two of those tanks sitting on land which has not been properly reinforced?
If JosephMuscat2013 really plans to build two domes each the size of the Assumption of Mary church in Mosta, then I suspect that it must be him who has had an apparition of the Madonna recently.
Comments have been mentioning horrors here. To my horror I meet people who take Muscat’s proposal and assurances, on such a highly technical issue, seriously.
The election campaign has been truly hijacked. In a way it was to be expected after all the insistence as to the HOW, WHEN and BY HOW MUCH.
During his leadership Muscat has been advocating a Radical Change (Bidla mill-Qiegh) and an earthquake, not only for his party but also for the country.
He has consistently stopped short of specifics and it is now the time for us to know his vision for the future of our country.
Reducing energy bills is one thing, but to embroil the country in arguing the pros and cons of the proposal is a real hijack.
This is worse than Alfred Sant’s promise to abolish VAT. He at least spared us the details of his promise.
Joseph’s proposal is equally heading to a disaster but by presenting it as a doable project (even CET+Duty was doable – it was in effect done) with technical presentations and a lack of answers on missing links is the ultimate electoral gimmick.
To doubting Thomases he has been saying that he has faith, is convinced and even sure that his proposal will work.
To make us believe him he mentions experts and interest from Maltese and international companies. But with such a project, faith and conviction are NOT enough. Such physical and technical projects NEED to be carefully analysed and tested.
He is now saying he will continue to seek EU funds for a gas pipeline to complement the new power station and the gas terminal. Then why all this hurry and expense when we could achieve the same results sequentially and securely at the least cost?
Kellkom bzonn (ghall-gid tal-pajjiz) ghandkom lil xi hadd li hu kapaci daqs ‘nofs niskwart’ ta’ Tonio Fenech. L-anqas hadd biss jibda mieghu, minn naha tal-PL. Vera ghajjurin, u ghandkom ghax tkunu.
But Muscat said that if the project failed, he would take “full responsibility” – what does that mean, that he would pay the electricity bills of all of us? is that the meaning of “taking full responsibility”?
Looks like someone’s smelling a Labour victory – http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130114/elections-news/gas-tank-location-is-feasible-former-enemalta-chairman.453225
Monday, January 14, 2013, 21:47 by
Kurt Sansone
Gas tank location is feasible – former Enemalta chairman
The land where the Labour Party is proposing to put two gas storage tanks at Delimara should not pose a problem, according to a former Enemalta chairman.
Architect Joe Ellul Vincenti said tonight that as long as the tanks were built correctly, the land in question was not problematic and other areas of the Delimara power station were also built on reclaimed land.
Mr Ellul Vincenti was appointed Enemalta chairman in the early 1990s by a Nationalist administration.
He made the statement in Ta’ Giorni where Labour leader Joseph Muscat was being interviewed by Simone Cini and Robert Musumeci.
Finance Minister Tonio Fenech had raised doubts about the site identified in Labour’s plans for the two large storage tanks. Similar doubts were raised by former Enemalta chairman Robert Ghirlando.
Has anyone asked the former chairman whether he lives nearby?
Most people who read this blog probably know that he doesn’t.
After paying Mintoff the odd million euros for L-Gharix because of the siting of the power station, this architect may have the same idea to sell some useless land in the area.
The issue is not whether it is possible to build them on the reclaimed land but what it would cost.
Everybody is aware that such technology and knowhow exist; just have a look at Burj Al Arab built on the shifting sands on the coast of Dubai. The only difference is that it was built in a country where really money is no problem.
And the former Enemalta chairman has no experience with building gas power stations. So he is no expert.
The English independent expert on Net TV today said to MAKE the place safe it will take a year long study just about that.
From what was said, I think all in all it will take from 6 to 10 years to tender, study, complete everything and build the gas power station, tanks etc.
Unbelievable.
On Facebook, this evening:
“Options
Beppe Fenech Adami
Illejla ghamilt home visit lil mara li qed tbati mill marda tal cancer u mort ukoll ghand familja li ghandha bint li ghaddiet min ‘bone marrow transplant’. It tnejn esprimew ringrazzjament ghall kura b xejn li rcevew minghand il Gvern. Iz zewg familji esprimew id dispjacir taghhom ghall fatt li Muscat donnu qed jipprova jaghmel kapital politiku min tbatija ta nies li ghaddejjin min mard serju. Il-poplu malti jisthoqqlu ahjar
Like · · 11 · 23 minutes ago · “
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2009/06/21/interview.html
“I have been interested in alternative energy for a very long time now,” he says. Nine years ago, a firm owned by Ellul Vincenti and a Swedish specialist company had applied with the Malta Resources Authority for the construction of a wind park at Wied Rini – a site just off Ċirkewwa, which has now been short-listed by government as potentially viable for such a project.
“I spoke to various ministers about my plans, and I have been encouraged to go ahead and apply because I was reassured that my idea fell in line with what government was after. But nobody has given me the green light yet. After all this time, our partners have undertaken projects in Sicily, Germany, Poland and South America, while in Malta, all we can do is wait.”
With Konrad Mizzi as Minister for Energy after 9th March, could things be fast tracked?
It looks like many people in Malta seem to be guided by the prospect of more money, letting any morals go to the wind.
And they are all people who can sail financially through life very comfortably.
Don’t they ever plan to enjoy their twighlight years?
Isn’t there some country that they would like to visit and which they haven’t yet visited for free throughout their careers? I am sure Norman Hamilton can advise.
Wind, gas, and jeremiads.
It is suddenly dawning on me that this commotion is intended to create a nationwide discussion which is cleverly and artfully taking all the attention away from the more serious problems.
One horror which is facing this nation is that it might be run by an inept bunch which could send us all to the wall.
This 25% electricity bill reduction should never be the focal point of an election. It is not possible, whoever has a fraction of common sense knows this.
What should be seriously worrying is that we have a leader who thinks he knows it all and is 100% inept to take over a country which is going through very sensitive times.
Labour is reputed to talk big but when it takes the wheels of power all the smiles go and vanish. We would be the stupids.
One real horror is that Muscat was so anti-EU in the first place, that it would not surprise me in the least were he to aim to pull Malta out of the EU.
Didn’t anyone notice the complete absence of EU flags yesterday? Check this out http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130113/elections-news/labour-holding-first-campaign-mass-meeting.453107
Compare it with this, which was only taken last September, and where several EU flags dotted the crown http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120922/local/labour-mass-meeting-concludes-party-congress.437949
The EU flags were conspicuous by their absence at Labour’s meeting yesterday.
Grezz don’t get too uptight about the absence of EU flags in Labour’s last meeting. The same happened in 2008 and only days before the election a handful of EU flags were scattered around the crowds.
It seems clear enough that Muscat’s trump-card is precisely the energy tariff issue – with very little else to go by.
Should the issue be shot down – some way into this has already commenced – the whole game will be “labour’s love lost”
In one of the earlier posts today, “just me” mentioned that KonradMizzi2013 said that the gas tanks will be of 23 metres in diameter.
This is another false statement by KonradMizzi2013.
The link below confirms that the typical diameter of a LNG gas tank ranges from 80 to 90 metres. That’s HUGE.
http://www.contech.co.nz/uploaded/Post-tensioned%20LNG%20Storage%20Tanks.pdf
The link also suggests that “a timeframe of some 5-10 years required for planning and construction” of LNG projects.
The link below shows some LNG tank projects. Those tanks are ENORMOUS. Material for the next PN billboard.
http://pcgladiator.blogspot.com/2009/03/lng-storage-tanks.html
Can anyone imagine two of those tanks sitting on land which has not been properly reinforced?
If JosephMuscat2013 really plans to build two domes each the size of the Assumption of Mary church in Mosta, then I suspect that it must be him who has had an apparition of the Madonna recently.
KonradMizzi2013 is not credible.
I am more convinced than ever that we will be opting to buy a power station from Tal-Lira – cheapest and quickest solution.
Comments have been mentioning horrors here. To my horror I meet people who take Muscat’s proposal and assurances, on such a highly technical issue, seriously.
The election campaign has been truly hijacked. In a way it was to be expected after all the insistence as to the HOW, WHEN and BY HOW MUCH.
During his leadership Muscat has been advocating a Radical Change (Bidla mill-Qiegh) and an earthquake, not only for his party but also for the country.
He has consistently stopped short of specifics and it is now the time for us to know his vision for the future of our country.
Reducing energy bills is one thing, but to embroil the country in arguing the pros and cons of the proposal is a real hijack.
This is worse than Alfred Sant’s promise to abolish VAT. He at least spared us the details of his promise.
Joseph’s proposal is equally heading to a disaster but by presenting it as a doable project (even CET+Duty was doable – it was in effect done) with technical presentations and a lack of answers on missing links is the ultimate electoral gimmick.
To doubting Thomases he has been saying that he has faith, is convinced and even sure that his proposal will work.
To make us believe him he mentions experts and interest from Maltese and international companies. But with such a project, faith and conviction are NOT enough. Such physical and technical projects NEED to be carefully analysed and tested.
He is now saying he will continue to seek EU funds for a gas pipeline to complement the new power station and the gas terminal. Then why all this hurry and expense when we could achieve the same results sequentially and securely at the least cost?
You would have saved further embarrassment to Tonio Fenech if you haven’t uploaded the press conference.
Luigi, it’s “……if you HADN’T uploaded the……”
Kellkom bzonn (ghall-gid tal-pajjiz) ghandkom lil xi hadd li hu kapaci daqs ‘nofs niskwart’ ta’ Tonio Fenech. L-anqas hadd biss jibda mieghu, minn naha tal-PL. Vera ghajjurin, u ghandkom ghax tkunu.
But Muscat said that if the project failed, he would take “full responsibility” – what does that mean, that he would pay the electricity bills of all of us? is that the meaning of “taking full responsibility”?
Daphne,
Tonio’s just held another press conference this afternoon.
When will ONE journalists acknowledge the presence of someone who may not understand Maltese?
Take note of the people swimming near storage tanks in one of the sites mentioned above.