How nice – another piece of fan mail from across the cultural divide
Yakof Agius - sabih il-men
You know, I blame Joe Azzopardi and Xarabank (no offence, Joe, I trust) for this now all-pervasive inability to distinguish between fact and opinion.
Instead of having opinions based on facts, people now have opinions irrespective of the facts, and sometimes, like this man, they think that their opinion is actually a substitute for fact.
“I do not think you are married”, he says. Mr Agius (tel no 9923 3870) I have a hot tip for you. The public registry is called that because the deeds deposited in it are public. Pop along and find out whether I am married or not.
As for whether I was depraved when young – well, I would have loved to have been, but I was married with three children by the age of 24, so depravity was something I could only dream of.
“I can not understand why some people get to suffer and individuals like you seem to have it all good. It doesn’t sound right to me.” – Ah yes, the root cause of the lanzit problem. Dig deep enough and you’ll always find it lurking there.
I guess it doesn’t occur to them that it’s possible to get things done by applying yourself, because in their scheme of things, it’s all down to luck (iss, hej, mhux fier) or hand-outs.
And don’t you just love the way he begins with ‘Hi’?
Qabda mgienen.
And this is Yakov's car - he's trying to sell it on the internet
Yakof Agius
[email protected]
IP 195.158.121.82
Submitted on 2010/09/17 at 7:10pm
Hi,
I wrote a while ago on this rubbish blog, when you decided to attack a couple of friends of mine.
You are a real loser.
Would you please explain to your audience what kind of mentally challenged individual are you? You are calling a dying man a bastard. How low can you go? Let me guess … waist high?
This man cannot even answer back to you. However I want to ensure, that you do not miss that opportunity and hence I will list down what I personally think about YOU … not people like you … but YOU specifically.
– I believe you were depraved when young.
– I believe that the few friends you have must be as fake as you are as otherwise, why would they hang around you?
– I do not think you are married. You surely aint someTHING that a man would want around him.
– I think a lot of people would enjoy seeing you FADE away … not disappear instantly … but slowly fade away.
– I can not understand why some people get to suffer and individuals like you seem to have it all good. It doesn’t sound right to me.
– I associate you to Athlete’s foot. Nothing major, but really annoying.
– Do you cry at night when you realize that a lot of people don’t like you because of what you are, and then realize that you do not really know why you do what you do?
– Do you think that you probably can count the number of people who have conditional respect towards you on one hand?
– Do you believe that you have a role that contributes positively to our society?
– Have you ever thought of locking yourself away from the community, because they do not want your opinion, they do not care what you think and that you are upsetting to many people cause your full of it.
Daphne, I really REALLY, think that we do not want people like you as part of our society and that someone, somewhere should classify you as instigating hatred and hence YOU are a public offence. Please refrain from interacting with Malta’s public, lock yourself away. PLEASE.
PAXXINA. PLEASE. SPARIXXI. Ghax vera persuna imbarazz.
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I hope this guy’s Smart cells have been collected and preserved for posterity. He’s going to need a brain transplant VERY soon.
First he’s going to ask a proctologist to examine his head.
I was wondering whether he was going to get Doktorr Anthony Zammit to examine his brain … in his behind, naturally.
Spend Euro 2,000 to save this guy’s Smart Cells? Better spend them on a cruise onboard the MSC Splendida.
Yeah, he’s a weird one. If we really had to start locking away annoying people, this idiot who fancies himself as a poker player would be way up the list.
Water off a duck’s back, Daphne.
Daphne, I love you.
I love you too , Daphne
Me too.
Mr Agius, just thought I’ll let you know. I hate that bastard Mintoff. I could not answer back either when he was in power, but that did not make any difference, did it?
By the way, who appointed you the people’s mouthpiece?
And are you really so pathologically stupid as to believe that Daphne (who has more followers than you do) does not have a role to play in the community? You don’t, do you?
The fact is, you don’t like to be reminded of and embarrassed by some of this ex dictator’s deeds. So fuck off and die – alongside that nasty piece of work.
Is it just me or can you figure out every single hardheaded ignorant Labour supporter just from the way he uses the English language?
Actually, you can figure them out from the way they write Maltese, mainly through use of AX instead of GHAX.
I am sincerely fascinated by the “lanzit” mindset that equates that letter to a face-melting insult.
Brief advice to Mr Agius – google “Freudian psychological projection”.
Count me in as one of those you can count (on one hand) who unconditionally respect you.
Oh dear, if you are instigating hatred, Yakov’s letter is not exactly a love letter is it?
And Daphne, you’re completely wrong regarding the cultural divide. There is no divide. The country is bankrupt, politically, socially, economically…
[Daphne – Ma nesagerawx. There is a definitely a cultural divide: between those who get things done and those who lie around resenting them for it. And then, of course, there is the parallel cultural divide between those who belong to 21st-century western Europe and those who would have been a lot happier living in 1970s Malta.]
I was quoting Norman Lowell! Didn’t you get that? :p
[Daphne – No, because I don’t listen to his speeches.]
dear daphne,you are worse than him,at least Norman`s hate is against foreigners (I personally condemn racism|), your hate is against fellow Maltese LABOUR PARTY SUPPORTERS
Hi Yakov Agius, and bollocks to you.
We come to this site by the thousands because for once on this little island there is someone who calls a spade a spade. If you feel so upset about it then please stick to the timesofmalta.com comments board where you will find many lackeys of your ilk. Now trot along.
I think this country is EXTREMELY SOUND, politically, socially and economically. Yes, there is a HUGE cultural divide.
In Mintoff’s day people like Yakof Agius brandished iron bars and ransacked PN clubs. Today they are the hard-core of the Moderates and Progressives Movement.
You’re spot on with your Xarabank comment.
While I strongly believe that everyone is entitled to voice their opinion I can’t help thinking that since The Times decided to allow all sorts of comments on their website they have have effectively reduced the website to an online version of Xarabank.
kc, you are absolutely right. All that is missing on the timesonline is the moderator shouting “Mela, mela, mela, fil-qosor, fil-qosor.”
X’hemm komuni bejn Guido u Duminku?
It-tnejn li huma kienu galantomi bi hwejjeg haddiehor!
Pathetic, I agree. But do you really believe that this is only typical of people who vote Labour?
[Daphne – Yes, Reuben, and I’m not being flippant when I say it: that kind of thinking is what makes them vote Labour in the first place. It’s not being Labour that makes them think that way, but the other way round. They choose Labour because of the way they think. There are exceptions, and some of them notable, but in general it is almost always possible to work out how a person votes by assessing his or her general attitude towards life, work and the good fortune of others.]
I agree with Daphne.
Pity Manwel Cuschieri didn’t have a blog in his heyday. It would have been interesting to see the comments he’d have received. Just a thought …
He wouldn’t have received any comments because his audience can’t write.
That’s why his show was on radio, so they could phone their comments in – and then we discovered that they can’t speak either.
Go cry to your ailing master about how much the truth hurts, but oh wait, apparently you can’t, because he asked for a ban on visits by plebs.
But I imagine that makes you love him so much more.
Hi.
I can’t add anything to that. It’s beyond me. That “hi” needs tomes and tomes of interpretation.
I am flabbergasted.
@Yakof Agius:
SPARIXXI. Ghax vera persuna imbarazz. You can choose to slowly fade away.
Y. Agius, ha nghidlek xi haga fuq MIntoff – kien jghid li ma jimpurtahx mill-lawriji ghax dawk bicca karta u prova kemm seta’ biex fi zmienu ftit ftit zghazagh immorru l-universita.
Imma hu u hutu – kellhom lawreja. Allura taghhom biss ma kinetx “bicca karta”?
Hag’ ohra kellna bzonn f’dan il-pajjiz kien hawn ftit nies ohra sincieri u kuragguzi bhal Daphne. Kieku nkunu hafna ahjar.
Taghmel tajjeb hafna li taqra il-blogg taghha. Ghandek x’titghallem.
What about his daughters? His daughter Yana has been very successful in the USA and so her children.
Mintoff will be always famous for the boost he tried to give to the working class, he didn’t want the working class to go above the limits. If you belong to the working class that is your place not any further.
Is Yana the one who threw horse shit in the Commons?
Jekk niftakar sew kien isejħilhom “Karti tal-inċova”
Minn hawn nixtieq naghmel apologija pubblika.
Minn issa ‘l quddiem se nieqaf insib il-punti negattivi dwar Hitler, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe u Than Shwe, ghaliex huma mejta jew anzjani.
Naqbel li ghandhom jigu irtirati l-kotba kollha li jghidu kliem ta’ disprezz kontra dawn il-personaggi.
Fuq Kristu x’sa taghmel? Jekk temmen fih, huwa haj, jekk ma temminx, mejjet.
Ok, Mintoff qieghed li sptar, jekk hux se jmut jew le hadd ma jaf, u lili personali ma taghmilliex l-icken differenza issa.
Anqas kaz. Issa ilu mhux fil-poter u ghal grazzja t`Alla iz-zmienijiet inbidlu.
Kien hawn min baghta hafna tahtu, allura bir-ragun li jkun imwegga` u jisfoga.
Ma ttihomx tord. Min ma bghatiex, xorta jaf tajjeb li ma kienux zmienijiet sbieh. Inutli noqghodu ninhbew wara subghajna.
Daphne ghandha dritt tghid li trid…….min jrid jaqra, u min ma jridtx ma jaqrax. Biss min qed jikteb kontra, jrid jirrealizza ukoll li din opinionista, u bhala tali, taghti l-opinjoni taghha. Punto.
Jien, ghalijja, din ghax kuragguza u mara ta’ certu “stoffa”, ghax nista nimmagina kemm se taqla fuq li kitbet. Bil-mod ta, biex issib nies hekk, u meta anqas nitfa gwadann m`ghandha.
Mhux ta’ min jammira allura?
Biss, biss ghal “guts” li ghandha, jekk xejn. Kieku talbet parir lili (fil-holm imma ta), zgur li kont nghidilha INSA. Mintoff suggett jahraq hafna hawn Malta u ha tinbaghad ma’ hafna nies.
Imma jien, jien, u dik Daphne! U kieku ma tmissx certi suggetti hi, hadd ma jmisshom. Xejn m’ ghandhom x’ jaghmlu, hlief min ihobb jinhabb ma hawnx. U bhal dan Yakof, li ZGUR li ghadu zghir, lanqas biss nikkalkulah.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=619102968
DOB: 1982
Political Views: Malta Labour Party
What a surprise.
Daphne, I found this piece, where Jakof had written on this blog, as he mentioned above.
True enough, you had mentioned Mintoff is-Salvatur in your reply to Jakof back then.
http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/03/26/labour-grooms-its-new-generation-of-uneducated-twits/
[Is this the guy? http://www.facebook.com/people/Yakof-Agius/619102968%5D
In that post back in March, he said that he used to spend his stipend on beer from White Arrow.
The White Arrow is a bar next to junior college where students socialise while supposedly attending lectures.
No wonder he dropped out of junior college then, as most of those frequenting that place do.
Just another drop-out. Then he expects things to ‘come all good’ for him as they do for Daphne.
How – with a couple of O-levels and a loser attitude?
Labour – the party for losers.
Dear Daphne,
Please put a “like” button after each comment and a “back to top” button to click on when one’s done reading. That’s the only thing missing from this site.
and have links open in a different window … I hate pressing the back button every time I visit a link posted by readers.
hold ctrl whilst you click the link, it will open the link in a new page.
X’karozza tal-ostra ghandu Jakof! http://www.maltapark.com/item.asp?ItemID=823306
Whoever is interested in buying his car may contact the jerk on 99233870. It’s all in the above link for everyone to see.
Yakof Agius’s Profile – Yakof – Agius – September 27 1982 – Male. (www.skolahbieb.com/jaxxkof/ )
It’s amazing how much people give away about themselves on internet without realising, isn’t it?
Here’s what he looks like. (I’m assuming it’s him since he lists his favourite TV program as TX – on One TV and he’s a fan of Julia Farrugia. Oh, yes! He’s a fan of his Opel Astra advert on Maltapark, too!) http://www.facebook.com/people/Yakof-Agius/619102968#!/profile.php?id=619102968
“Yakof Agius(8 hours, 5 minutes ago)Mintoff – The man who created Malta.
I sincerely hope that your health returns and that you honour us with your life for much longer.
If this is not so, do not worry, for what you have done in your life, will resonate for eternity.
It is sad to see that what you have displayed during your best of years, is rare to find these days in the common man, let alone in politics. Then again, Dom Mintoff, was no common man … but a legend.
Thank you.” (http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100917/local/mintoff-remains-in-serious-critical-condition)
Considering that this Jakof/Yakof/Jaxxkof was only 2 years old when Mintoff was last in power, one can only assume that he must have been fed a great deal of untruths to consider Mintoff “a legend”..
Isn’t this setting a wrong message?
“Send a letter to Daphne and you’ll get your own 10 minutes of fame”
And that’s exactly what he got, practically making a hero out of himself for the MLP.
The last thing the MLP (I understand you mean PL) needs right now is a hero like this one.
Here’s his address, just in case you want to send him some fan mail in return.
Agius Yakof
Bl A2, Fl 4 Triq il-Qawra
San Pawl il-Bahar
21573450
It sounds like he lives in a flett tal-gvern.
It IS a flett tal-gvern (Nazzjonalista). He talks about it in his earlier posts.
Why don’t you publish your name and address instead. You are publishing this guy’s address whilst hiding behind a nome de plume. How low can you get.
[Daphne – His address is available on line. He put it there.]
This is SO cool.
Daphne Caruana Galizia taking on a little shit like me. I guess making a 28 year old look like shit is easy huh Daphne? Go ahead … give it your best shot honey …
:-D
Marku CP, Issa nkellmek la narak ja … (ala hamalla hux Daph?)
Hahaha
… you lot just made my day. Thanks everyone. Fascinating how many people are so prompt to pout their lips and KISS ASS.
Daphne – you still have not answered any of my questions (apart from the one where you are actually confirming that yes, some men will take anything that comes along) with any relevance. I am honestly looking for a good explanation as to why you are so distasteful. Please ensure that you provide a reasonably good argument to justify your ignorance, hatred, ridicule-inspiring, hate-filled blogs you write up over here – cause I am pretty sure that now that you have dedicated an entire blog to me the THOUSANDS WILL FLOCK OVER HERE … to see Daphne Caruana Galizia starting to fade in comaprison to the little 28 year old shit.
Wish you all a nice evening, and hope to see more comments by the time I wake up tomorrow. Thanks again for the exposure (particularly for my e-mail address, which you did not seek permission beforehand whether you could publish or not … tisk tisk … now I’ll see what I’ll do about that … let me sleep on it first.) and have a nice weekend.
Yakov, thousands already flock here. That’s why this site now ranks higher than your party’s Maltastar.
Don’t worry Yackoff I’ll save you, I’m from the internet. http://moourl.com/rkw05
I was not kissing ass; I was blowing raspberries. Then again, you wouldn’t know the difference.
Douche it was online for everyone to see. Hello are you for real or what?!
Douche? Joseph knows all about those. He’s an expert at cleaning female genitals – or so he says.
“Comaprison”? Now I know exactly where you come from.
Yo, brat with the gopher eyes, too bad you’re too young to remember Dom’s glory days:
1. Cikkolata Desserta – cow dung patties wrapped in tin foil.
2. No water to cool your fevered, red bandanna-ed brow, ’cause Duminku cut off all our water between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM, especially is you lived far away from Bormla.
3. Gensna.
4. Gaddafi.
5.
Just be grateful, sweetie, that you missed the glory days of that smelly old goat’s time in the sun.
Pretty please, let’s put a stop to this Desserta business. It makes us Maltese come across as frivolous and belittles the pain many went through in the 70s and 80s. An Italian friend of mine jokingly refers to the PN as ‘il partito della cioccolata’ which ran with the slogan ‘cioccolata per tutti’.
[Daphne – Chocolate was a symbol of the west and freedom, and you don’t have to be an anthropologist to know that. In Moscow, it was jeans.]
Yakov, you’re the one who posted all that information on the internet.
I just love the way he’s so readily conceded to being ‘a little, 28 year-old (piece of) shit’. The wee laddie must be really starved of attention. Bit thick too: primarily because he supports the PL but also because he doesn’t even realise he’s been torn apart.
Why do you think you can speak good English, when you so obviously can’t?
Please ensure that you provide a reasonably good argument to justify your ignorance, hatred, ridicule-inspiring, hate-filled blogs you write up over here
Small eyes – always a bad sign in a person.
Tghid se jaghmel bhal-leader u jnehhi il-goatie?
Poor kid – he was not yet born when Malta was suffering the atrocities perpetrated during Mintoff’s leadership of the Malta Labour Party –
… which is why he deems Mintoff “a legend”.
I thought I’d encountered that horrible name somewhere before. He was very keen to defend Ms Alamango arse-grabbing photo you published some time ago:
http://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2010/03/26/labour-grooms-its-new-generation-of-uneducated-twits/
Horrible name – Russian name, you mean. Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, all the communists in Labour were naming their poor kids things like Yakov. That first name tells you a lot.
He should be grateful he’s not called Sputnik.
But he’s got a valid point poor chap – the bloody government gave him a flat for free instead of a maisonette. How can they live with themselves after committing such atrocities?
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100918/letters/no-pm-did-as-much
I love the last phrase – ‘he gave and did not take anything in return’! Imsieken dawn in-nies!
Mintoff handed out material freebies using other people’s money and took away rights – basic human rights.
[Daphne – Mintoff gave and took nothing in return? He gave away other people’s money, rights and possessions – which cost him nothing personally – while taking as much as he could for himself, right up until the end when he got half a million liri as compensation for having a power station built outside his house. When he deposited all that coal and the power station that belched pollution next to the homes of his despised working classes in Marsa, did they get any compensation? Like hell they did. He gave them cancer and asthma and they lit candles to him in return.]
Yes, we used to light candles. Not “to Mintoff” though, but “because of Mintoff” – and boiler No 7 of course!
The way to deal with ‘jerkoff’ here is to ignore him. If these people were too young or too thick to see the difference between pre 1987 and post, then it is futile to try and explain it.
Just do your duty and vote or you might find Mr Agius as your Head of Department in a couple of years time and that would be really sad.
“If these people were too young or too thick to see the difference between pre 1987 and post….”
Some would argue along the same lines with respect to Mintoff-bashers: they are too ‘young’ to realise what life in Malta was like in the post-war 50s.
He lost me around line 7; I’ve no respect for those with no respect for grammar.
It is the same all over the world. There are people who honestly believe that the NAZI atrocities are all made up and it was not true that people were put in concentration camps.
Dear Daphne
You have a lot of followers who love you and respect you. Forgive! The very few who hate you it’s because the truth hurts.
@Joethemaltaman:
The incova reference was connected to Mintoff’s mistakenly utilitarian approach to university education. When trying to convince the people that the numerus clausus was a good idea, he asked rhetorically what graduates would do with their degrees if they could not find jobs in spite of their education: use the diploma to wrap “incova” in?
I think he may have been afraid that if there were too many unemployed graduates, it would end up in discontent or graduates fomenting social unrest. This was a very shortsighted view of things.
Time proved that graduates will find a place and contribute to social and economic progress. Learning is Man’s greatest asset, if I may be forgiven a platitude.
I do not believe Mintoff was against higher education as a matter of principle. Mintoff in his youth was highly influenced by English left-wing thought and he may have digested utilitarian philosophy a little incompletely. He was familiar with the Fabian Society (which believes in gradual not revolutionary reform) but, again, he did not quite go along the lines of its philosophy though he may have tried.
I am relying on memory of something I read and am subject to correction but I believe that his father-in-law (the late Mrs. Mintoff was the Baroness Moyra De Vere Bentinck) was an active Fabian.
I think the problem with Mintoff was that, initially, he had good and well-intentioned ideas of social reform based on the Fabian approach (which historically lies at the heart of the UK Labour Party) but then he could not always find the right formula to implement them in a Maltese context.
A number of his acolytes lacked the education to enable them to have the right vision. He resigned in 1958 thinking he would be back in office in a short time but he had to wait 13 years. This was a shock to him.
During that period, he was antagonized by the Church (led by the indomitable Archbishop Gonzi) and he was left greatly embittered. He was frustrated by local conditions which were different from what he had seen in England. One was the disproportionate hold of the conservative Catholic Church on Maltese society in the 50s and 60s.
Ultimately, he concocted his own way of doing things and slipped many a time.
He started to be imbued with ideas taken from a more extreme left than English socialism. His tolerance of violence was, in my opinion, his greatest historical mistake. Judging him today will inevitably be subjective as there are too many issues still unresolved. His fiery character often lacking in finesse and his rough handling of some issues work against him. Ai posteri l’ardua sentenza.
Jimi Hendrix 27/11/1942 – 18/9/1970
Forty years after his death, still loved by millions.
My grandmother’s song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0GEWyZ1rM
It is unbelievable how Labour supporters born in the late 80s believe all the BULLSHIT about Mintoff ‘saving Malta’ and ‘championing the working class’ bla bla bla.
They should look up the facts before trying to praise this despicable, vile despot who abused his power and authority to oppress his own people solely for his and his close friends’ personal gain, whilst occasionally throwing a few scraps to the people to show how benevolent he was.
Practically ALL the reforms they attribute to ‘Is-Salvatur’ such as children’s allowances and so on were in fact happening all over free Europe at the time and were just in the spirit of the times.
Even the British being ‘kicked out’ by him was a BIG LIE – their lease agreement was up and they didn’t want to renew.
But Mintoff had built such a powerful propaganda machine around him, constantly bombarding and brainwashing the ignorant masses and persecuting REAL JOURNALISTS that many of his followers believed that ‘Il-Prim’ actually invented all these social measures.
HE DID NOTHING OF THE SORT.
Those who dared even speak against the government or against Mintoff at the corner grocer-shop would be reported to the party or police and would suffer persecution in one form or another – and were blacklisted.
Their businesses would be crucified or forced to shut down. Many were arrested and detained for 48 hours without any reason. Many were beaten at work, if they worked somewhere like the Dry Docks, and others (me included) by masked policemen trained by North Korean murderers.
I could go on and on and on. I think of those 16 terrible years and SHUDDER.
LIFE FOR US YOUNG PEOPLE BACK THEN WAS SHEER HELL AND WE HAD NO OPPORTUNITIES AT ALL!
NOW these young Labour supporters seem to be coming out of the woodwork and it is OFFENSIVE to hear them talk about the ‘golden years in Malta’s history’ and how Malta would be nothing today without Labour/Mintoff etc bla bla BLA.
These people KNOW NOTHING about these times as they were not even born yet.
Today they take all the Nationalist Party’s (and Malta’s) achievements for granted without realising that Mintoff wanted us to all be peasants so just a handful of his friends could become millionaires.
These people sit at their COMPUTERS putting forward their PERSONAL OPINIONS to a FREE COLUMNIST on her BLOG which is read by thousands on the INTERNET which works through TELEPHONE lines or CABLE TV LINES.
(ALL ITEMS IN CAPITAL LETTERS ABOVE WOULD HAVE BEEN GROUNDS FOR ARREST AND INTIMIDATION IF THEY EXISTED IN MINTOFF’S TIME).
Mintoff ABSOLUTELY HATED, intellectuals, students, technology, computers, independent journalists and newspapers.
I can never forget when our house was raided by the police in the early eighties because Labour neighbours reported that my dad was seen through a window talking on a cordless phone.
[Daphne – This is an experience we share, then. Our house was turned upside down by police who came by at night (illegal) without a warrant (illegal) to look for the ‘walkie-talkie’ (illegal – associated with enemies of the government or their agents) which somebody had seen him use in his car and then reported him to the police. It was a Dictaphone. They had never seen one before.]
TAL-BIZA!
Viva Mintoff? I DON’T THINK SO.
The sooner he goes the better.
May he remain in the trash-can of history forever.
I forgot to mention that when the police raided our home they did in fact find the cordless phone and – shock, horror – a COLOUR TV.
When my father told them (and they confirmed this by making some telephone calls) that the cordless phone and colour TV were bought from a prominent Labour Party official, they apologised for the inconvenience, and left without pressing charges.
They let us keep both, but the police officer advised us to always close the curtains when we watched television so nobody would report us. VIVA L-LABOUR!
That was the Labour government’s policy in those days: ban everything people want and then get your own people to ‘smuggle’ them in and sell them for a massive (undeclared) profit.
No wonder they call them the golden years of Labour, because they made a killing.
Funny how none of these clever-dicks EVER comment on these events and on the blatant government-sponsored corruption at every level of society in the 70s and 80s.
VIVA L-LABOUR! …VIVA L-LABOUR! HEY BLOODY HEY!
Speaking about politicians picked up from history’s trash-can, what about that other pillar of the old MLP – Lorry Sant? Some say he was actually worse than Mintoff and that KMB was placed as prime puppet to keep Sant from taking over. Luckily, I was born too late to have any meaningful recollection of these events. Any comments would help.
This Agius chap does not know that if it were for Mintoff, we would not be using our computers today. Perhaps this Agius does not know that Mintoff warms his pot of vegetable soup on a “kuciniera” tal-pitrolju and he used to really mortify his wife when she asked for some little thing like a pencil.
His wife was a really gentle woman and was ever so polite. Whenever I came across her in the course of my work many years ago, I never ceased to wonder how she ended up marrying such a despicable, ill-mannered man.
WTF – are these people out of their minds!!
http://www.freewebs.com/dommintoff/
http://bezzul.tripod.com/INTRO.html
According to the Dom Mintoff profile in the first link above, “Mr. Mintoff’s pastimes are horse-riding, swimming, water-skiing and ‘Bocci’.”
Sadly, the Luqa monument will deprive him of the last one.
Yakov, you can now lose your goatee. Joseph did.
Only this week, a young (hence by indoctrination) Mintoffjan posed a comparison between Mintoff and Eddie, when we both realised our trying to understand each other politically had come to a stalemate and we’d be better off agreeing to disagree.
He told me “Intom lill-Eddie thobbuh ghax taghkhom computer, ahna Mintoff salvalna lil Malta”.
The shallowness left me speechless, and the incident was an eye-opener for me.
I see no hope of ever reconciling ideas with a supporter of Mintoff. The divide (of course there is one) is of epic proportions – in lifestyle (meagre by choice but ignorant of this fact), communication (vulgar) and mindset (too much for parenthesis and it’s all been said above and before anyway)
I am really looking forward to this:
“One of the main features of Labour’s celebration of history will be a documentary narrating the party’s history, which will be aired on ONE in 2011. A preview of the documentary will be shown in November.” http://www.maltastar.com
History re-written by the perpetrators. What a joke!
A 28-year old (shit), eh?
That makes you just about old enough to grow up when the world you live in was reinvented.
Clever dick. How did you manage that without pjaciri?
Well well well! Surprise surprise! Just discovered this guy works for HSBC!
Iva, intant mal-kattiv barrani li Mintoff salvana minnhom?
Ask your colleagues at the bank (ex Mid Med Bank) what they went through in July to August 1976 and thereafter. Suspensions, beatings, threats of being fired for using what were termed ‘disparaging’ words against il-kbir Duminku..the list goes on. Just ask them – the older ones.
Strange. His Facebook profile says McDonalds – still ‘barranin’ and worse still, American.
But this explains better why the guy seems to have a chip on the shoulder.
It’s definitely not a “friendly fry” that chip he’s got on his shoulder.
Why is everyone still afraid of Mintoff? Why are there no comments against him on timesofmalta.com? The terror still exists and it’s not the 80s.
[Daphne – Maybe The Times isn’t uploading them in case its building gets burned down again.]
I sent one anti-Mintoff comment in and it was not uploaded.
Oh great, even on his death bed, he still has power !
I read the comments about Mintoff’s lack of interest and esteem for degrees.
Was the Mintoff’s government who wanted the university to be free and the students to receive a stipendium, or it had already been like that before he got in power? And free education for everyone?
Free university plus a stipendium is a god send for students who come from the working class and not a big deal for students coming from high class families. But still they have never been asked to pay a cent for their studies.
I was born 20 years ago and I don’t know much about this particular period of time.
[Daphne – University fees were done away with in 1970 by the Borg Olivier government. Thereafter, university was free but students were not paid and they worked only if they wanted to and could find a job. In the late 1970s, the Mintoff government introduced the student-worker scheme, under which you could not enter university unless you first found somebody willing to employ you for five/six months of the year. Students worked for half the year and attended lectures during the other half. They were paid a small wage by their employer during the months they worked. In the late 1980s, the Fenech Adami government ended that and brought the university back to the British semester and course structure system, the one you know now. There are no fees for EU citizens, and students receive a stipend. If they work, which is their own choice, they cannot also receive a stipend – but many of them do because the university has no means of checking.]
The above information about the free of charge university is not correct. My brother graduated in medicine during the Labour government and he used to attend lectures all year round and received a stipend. He graduated in 1988. In 1987 there was a government change, but during the previous years, the system was already is it is now.
[Daphne – It’s hard to believe that you come from the same gene pool as somebody who studied medicine. There were no stipends in the period of which you speak. I would know, because if your brother graduated in 1988, then he would be my exact contemporary. I rather suspect that your brother might have been one of those student-workers who, because of his political connections, had the ‘work’ part of university years sponsored by the public sector, but like so many others in the public service, did not understand that his pay cheque was tied to an obligation to actually clock in and work every day. And so, he saw that cheque as a stipend, and so do you.]
I graduated in 1985 and I can tell you that the system was one of student worker i.e. 6 months work and 6 months study.
As it was not practical to have such a system from the 3rd year onwards, there was a concession (given without Mintoff’s knowledge – this I know for sure) wherein, all the medical students would join together for lectures in the afternoon (there were no lectures in the morning).
So in a way, for the last three years of the medical school, were were following the normal semester.
On the other hand, we were completely under the control of the government and its puppets. I remember a certain Ray Azzopardi strutting around as if he owned the hospital.
[Daphne – Ray Azzopardi was, as I recall, a radiographer at the time. After Alfred Sant became leader, he became one of his circle of advisers and more or less took over Super One. He was hairdresser Alfie Rizzo’s man friend and that’s one of the reasons Alfie was ever-present on Super One telling the Labour nation how to fix its hair. It’s also the reason why, when Rizzo was murdered by a boy be picked up for sex in Gzira, the Labour Party gave him the equivalent of a mini state funeral, with the leader and Ray in the front row surrounded by all the Labour heavy-hitters. He’ll still around, though I can imagine there have been quite a few bitch fests with Jason Micallef to an Amanda Lear soundtrack as the struggle for power at Super One continues.]
So much so that those of us final year students who took part in the peaceful Mnarja 1984 demonstration were threatened with being kicked out of university and were placed on a shift structure (medical students in the last 3 years were supposed to be day duty so as to be able to attend lectures in the afternoon).
Students were also beaten up by the aristocracy of the workers (5th October 1984). Most of us who were politically active at the time were either punished by being marked as having failed our final exams or given such placings as to have to choose the least desirable work posts.
Teachers who decided to work to rule, not a partial strike or a full strike, were locked out for weeks on end without pay.
Church schools were closed for months.
In 1978 or 1979, we were severely beaten by the police just because we had a peaceful protest in support of medical students who were left without tutors.
We were again beaten up in 1986 at Tal-Barrani by a group of MLP supporters, aided by the police who thought that Zejtun was a separate republic and we were finally shot at in Rabat, April 6th, 1986.
And the list goes on, and on, and on.
Pity that the PN decided to bury these facts instead of dedicating a whole website with full details so as not to forget and so that the future generation can take a peek at what life was like under the great saviour in the 70s and 80s.
Are you related to Marlene of Sea Malta fame?
Is it the same Ray Azzopardi who used to appear on that ghastly ‘Sibtijiet Fliemkien’?
Was he a radiographer?
[Daphne – Yes and yes.]
The student-worker scheme started in February/March 1980. That scholastic year, there was no new intake of students in October (1979) because nothing had been planned and no one knew how the scheme was going to work out.
All I know is that when they finally worked something out, only a handful of courses were on offer and scores, maybe even hundreds of students were left out in the cold.
So, thanks Mintoff, for ruining my life and the lives of countless others, who were adversely affected by your half-baked ideas.
I think it was 1979 as I entered university in Feb 1980 and the scheme had already been in place for one year.
As for the courses: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, engineering, B.Ed, architecture and law – number of students – around 800 (less than 50% of today’s each year’s entry). Research – nil. Investment in equipment and infrastructure – nil to below zero.
1977 – My then girlfriend’s father, a noted physician, is locked out of St Luke’s Hospital. Eventually, the family are forced to emigrate.
1977 – My father, a former Cable & Wireless employee on a salary, with six children still at school, is suspended from work without pay for seven months, for obeying a union directive which did not even involve industrial action.
1978 – The Polytechnic Junior School teachers’ course, which I had wanted to take and for which I had obtained the entry requirements, is scrapped as part of the university “reform” programme.
1979 – I am in Valletta on October 15th for an A-level class. The air is black with smoke from The Times’ office building which is being burned down by a mob of Dom Mintoff’s supporters. Mintoff comes out onto the palace balcony and waves to the crowd. His finest hour? Possibly, but I am sure many of you have their own experiences of this low-life thug.
This is just a sample of what happened in the so-called “golden years” of Labour.
Trust me, Yakov and co., the Nationalist Party’s worst is still light years better than Labour’s best.
His late wife came from an important British family and carries the title of a Baroness. I’m sure that she could afford a pencil without asking her husband’s financial support.
[Daphne – His wife had no title, and she had no money either. Had she money of her own, Mintoff would not have treated her the way he did, and she would not have put up with it. She left him once and returned to England, but they were reconciled eventually through the agency of a third party.]
If I am not mistaken, tt was Lord Carrington with whom Mintoff was dealing about the lease.
Oh God! This is just hilarious, and i agree with him when it comes to ‘How low can you go?’. You have to admit he has a point.
DAPHNE YOU ARE SHOWING YOU ARE AN IGNORANT LADY !!!!!
YOUR “MHUX FIER” IS GETTING ON MY NERVES IT IS ” MHUX GUST” NOT MHUX FIER !!!! and you call yourself a journalist ??
Missed sarcasm is sometimes funny in itself.. not this time though
Is it only me or is the timesofmalta.com’s moderator or moderators (who apparently only work up to 5pm) censoring all but the most feeble of comments critical of Mintoff?
@panzavecchia: sometimes I have found Moyra Mintoff styled as “baroness”. Her paternal grandfather was Baron Bentinck:
http://www.thepeerage.com/p1857.htm#i18562
I cannot say whether the title of baroness was eventually inherited by Moyra.
Mintoff’s wife used to work as a tourist guide. I know this because she used to come to our shops. I hardly think she would have done that if she had money as you claim.