Il-Partit ta' Joseph: a party of prats and proles led by a prick
hepi 2CU, Luciano - Y U R zmilink?
And no, I make no apologies for the language. Or for taking a break from the Libya crisis to remind you of the crisis of choice back home.
Labour has become riddled and raddled with the aging and aged brontosauruses of the Golden Years and with, on the other hand, younger politicians who use the new media to advertise their subliteracy, childish thoughts and addled minds.
Take this exchange on Facebook, for instance, which caught my attention because I was witness to the fact that Lou Bondi did not rip or want to rip posters (just as I did not shout at anyone or rip posters either).
Bear in mind that Luciano Busuttil is a Labour MP, a lawyer and a grown man in his 30s. He is not a 15-year-old texting from the schoolyard.
Luciano Busuttil
.. ashamed lou? Is that y u wanted to rip graffiti s posters showing our pm embracing ghaddafi cos u wer ashamed.
Bondi responded with a couple of sentences that began: The Honourable Luciano Busuttil lied about me.
And Busuttil came back again with (please grit your teeth in readiness):
I am capable of reading and writing english thanks to the free education my party introduced in this country. But i cannot see why u r accusing me to be a liar. I read what i wrote and could not find any lies. I Never said u ripped graffiti…rg placards but wanted to…since it was evident from the times viddo that u and others showed malcontent and disagreed with their plackards and wanted them to remove them. I remember you lecturing me at uni quoting voltaire. I might disagree with what u have to say but i will defend your right to say it with my life. U seem to have forgotten this last part.
A really hot choice for minister of education, don’t you think?
UPDATED: Oh look, there’s more tal-wahx commentary from future Labour minister Luciano Busuttil (‘read slowly my answer’……brrrrrr):
Lou…read slowly my answer. Maybe you were in a hurry reading it as u might b prepping for another programme on tv to help the current administration. I said it was clear from the times video that u wantd graffiti to remove their posters. …Is this a lie? Maybe u were irked by the word ripped. It could have bee a freudian slip from my side since i have been ripped off so many times by the govt that the word stuck to my toungue. Maybe i should have said u persuaded them to remove posters….but the end result would have been the same…the killing of freedom of speech. Miskin voltaire kemm tqalleb fil qabar b dak li gara. Re yr lectures u could b right as i was obliged to attend even though with no regrets. Enjoy d carnival lou…at least we can all wear masks these couple of days like those who pretend to be impartial when infact they have a hidden agenda.
We know he was at the university because he says here that he attended some of Lou Bondi’s lectures. But how did he get in? How did he graduate?
Perhaps he donated $$$$$$$$£££££££ to the university’s coffers and commissioned the research and writing of his dissertation, like the infamous son of his party’s infamous hero.
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What a retard.
This Labour MP likes to be seen with an oversized cigar – maybe he thinks it’s the mittilkless look.
Futur Garantit: partit fil-gvern li minghalieh hu biss kapaci jiggverna u oppozizzjoni li tikkorroborah.
[Daphne – It’s nice to able to agree on something once in a while.]
Kev, put yourself in a minister’s or government MP’s shoes. If you were to face the likes of Luciano Busuttil on a daily basis, wouldn’t you start thinking that you should remain in government for another generation?
Mela thajjart minn Angus Black, Antoine? (Nahseb xi setta gdida din, ipoggu dot qabel l-isem.)
What was your question again?
Eh, x’mohh dak. Fl-imghoddi kienu jsejhulhom tal-faxx.
[Daphne – They are not the same person, Kevin. I gather that they do not even live on the same continent.]
I am not saying they are the same person. I am saying Antoine liked Angus’ dot so much he adopted the logo himself.
[Daphne – That was a preemptive strike, since we are into military stuff now.]
Kev, the dot was a typo. Actually, I had never even noted that Angus puts a dot in front of his name.
There goes my reputation…
Nice one kev. I call it the theory (PN) and the proof (PL) !
Typical Labour: instead of joining in the protest against Gaddafi, they find ways of criticising those who did.
Perhaps they should play this on One Radio.
http://soundcloud.com/dimitristuer/libya-bloody-libya
I wonder whether the choice of Sunday Bloody Sunday by Irish group U2 was deliberately ironic, given that Gaddafi sponsored IRA terrorism, the subject of the song.
“thanks to the free education my party introduced in this country.”
The friggin’ brass neck!
[Daphne – Another myth from the Golden Years: that it was Mintoff who introduced compulsory free education, not the Hakem Barrani. Somebody needs to explain to twits like Luciano why village schools in Malta are Edwardian buildings clearly marked ‘Boys’ and ‘Girls’ and not 1970s concrete horrors marked ‘Subien’ and ‘Bniet’. And he also needs to have it explained to him that the British introduced compulsory education against the will of the people like Luciano Busuttil’s antecedents, who didn’t see why their children should be learning to read and write when they wanted them to work instead.]
And free tertiary education (university) was introduced under a Borg Olivier administration.
And let’s not even get into how they screwed up the education system in the eighties.
Their idea of the golden years is when kids were locked out of school.
Ah, but if there ever was justification for Alfred Sant’s ‘Repetition class’, this is one excellent example.
Send Luciano back to the ‘skola tan-nuna’ where most of the LP MPs and followers feel more comfortable.
The only thing his party introduced was ideologically-laden castrated education. He is a shining example of the results.
If anyone here wants an indepth view of the legal and social history of education in Malta, one can consult this abstract and then, presumably, contact the author for a digital copy of the full work.
http://thesisabstracts.com/ThesisAbstract_20_The-Right-to-a-Proper-and-Effective-Educational-Experience.html
Every time my collegues tell me that Labour will surely win the next election, I get a shiver down my spine, but why should they win? Surely not on their merits.
Luciano says: “…thanks to the free education my party introduced in this country…”
I’d say, “Education costs money, ignorance is free.”
And U can C this with your own I’s.
@ciccio2011
I disagree. Ignorance can cost much more.
Another graduate magna cum laude, no doubt.
The Labour Party seems to specialise in lawyers who can’t speak either language and are unable to string simple sentences together.
They think the language they speak is Maltese, when it’s just the equivalent of the English spoken on Eastenders.
“I Never said u ripped graffiti…rg placards but wanted to”
He admits Lou did not tear any posters and then promptly commits himself to a subjective opinion on Lou’s intentions. Labour psychic politics in action – tal-megiks!
Correction: Plackards
maaaaaaaa……and he went to university? He certainly didnt learn how to write or type – what a tosser.
This turkey is totally prepared to submit his PhD thesis to the same ‘university’ that accepted Joey’s. Title: ‘The Product of a Free Education’.
The numerus clausus had its merits – this person would have been employed in the Dirghajn il-Maltin because he does not deserve better.
What a plonker.
“The numerous clausus had it merits” – definitely not when students were awarded an extra 20 points simply for having attended one sixth form and not another.
Lou is a credit to his profession while Luciano is a credit to his party.
Free education? As in “free to choose your own spelling”?
Is Luciano too thick to understand that the protest was organised by Libyans against the tyrant who ruled their country for 42 years and Maltese personalities were completely irrelevant to their cause, unless they were there to demonstrate?
Kemm hu gidra.
Luciano Busuttil wouldn’t know. He wasn’t there.
Yes, he wasn’t there but probably was there when his party celebrated Gaddafi’s 40th anniversary of his tyranny.
‘Min jitwieled tond ma jmutx kwardu’, jghid il-Malti u l-Ingliz jghid, ‘Once an a**hole, always an a**hole’.
With a dismal grasp of Maltese and English, I wonder what he is like in his legal profession?
No wonder he spends Friday mornings on Gorg tad-Downats’ programme on ONE TV, listening housewives complaining that their disposable income has decreased, but nevertheless manage to go to the coffee mornings organised by Gorg tad Downats and Alfred Zammit/PL finance secretariat.
Pidgin English aside, I am four square with his reasoning. Bondi is an über-biased journalist whose ultimate aim is to give a distorted picture of the Maltese situation. He has a political agenda as big as a house.
That sorry imitation of Larry King – il-larry kink tal-fqar – has lost what little credibility he still had.
Simply showing his disagreement at the handful of Graffitti demonstrators would have only exposed his bigotry but his trying to shush them also exposed to what extent he is ready to go to satisfy his clan’s goals.
Can you imagine Gad Lerner, Bruno Vespa, or Stephen Sackur – to name a few real investigative journalists – making that kind of stunt? Of course not, they would have interviewed the demonstrators, not stopped them.
[Daphne – I’m sorry, but you’re talking to somebody who was there, and who reacted in exactly the same way to those stupid posters. The aim was to have as many people as possible showing their support and it was damned obvious that posters like that would put people off. In fact, some walked away and others, like the woman shown in the on-line video chastising the Graffiti idiots, were enraged. As I told one of them, I could easily have turned up with a hundred posters showing Labour Party figures with Gaddafi, but I didn’t. That wasn’t the point. Graffiti turned up to the Eritreans’ protest yesterday, but didn’t make the same mistake. They carried the same posters the Eritreans did. Sadly for Labour supporters like you, the agenda and sentiments really IS becoming clear: Labour supporters are either overtly sympathasing with Gaddafi (and here I include John Dalli) or not speaking out against him, while mocking and criticising those who, like me, make our views clear against him. Labour: Il-Partit Mixtri Minn Gaddafi.]
Aghh so his and your crusade against the evil dreadlocked monsters had noting to do with the fact that their placards were missing Muscat’s face? Would you have tried to stop them had they carried placards showing Mintoff with Gadaffi?
[Daphne – Yes, definitely. And I told them so. I even wrote about it, here and elsewhere. Partisan politics should have been kept right out of it, for the very simple and obvious reason that there were demonstrators there who wanted no part of it. Had we been a demonstration of thousands, then fine, carry what placards you like. But when you’re a very small group, as we were, then carrying placards of your choice forces the whole group to march under them. You Labour voters judge me by your own restricted mindset when you imagine that I would object to a poster to ‘stick up for Gonzi’. I am neither 20 years old nor mentally, educationally and socially challenged. So please accept that I am different from you and that I do not think as you do. If I thought as you do, I would have voted for Mintoff, Karmenu, Sant and now Muscat, but I didn’t and shall not.]
“Labour supporters are either overtly sympathasing with Gaddafi (and here I include John Dalli) or not speaking out against him”
I was defending the fundamental right of a group of people who last Saturday were expressing their abhorrence at Gaddafi and the very fact that our prime minister met the dictator just a few days back with a big smile on his face . Their argument, in my book, is as far as an anti-Gaddafi sentiment can go so spare me your ludicrous arguments please.
[Daphne – Again, you think like an intellectually challenged Labour voter. The fundamental right is to freedom of expression and assembly (demonstration, placards). There is no fundamental right to force yourself on other people who don’t want you or your placards around. The demonstration was not amorphous. It was organised. By other people – NOT Graffiti.]
Their argument is a far as an anti-Gaddafi sentiment can go, you say? You’re even more myopic than you first seemed, then.
It might surprise you that some of those objectionable placards featured Joseph Muscat, so it wasn’t just “pro-Gonzi” sentiment that made people ask for them to be removed.
Lou, ashamed?
Int ghandek ghax tisthi, Lucjanu. Lanqas taf tikteb erba’ sentenzi sura ta’ nies. Ara biex inhu mghobbi l-PL.
Luciano Busuttil, ‘read slowly my comment’:
you are a f***ing idiot who can’t spell or write and who knows very little English.
If we are going to have this sort of people in government, then God help us.
The Hugo Chavez syndrome: anything will do as long as it’s a peasant.
Jien niskanta kif lahaq avukat.
Prosit Lucian, kelli impressjoni ohra tieghek imma malajr biddilta meta rajt li lanqas taf tikteb bl-Ingliz.
Dik il-kitba ghalija hi tal-hammalli u mhux tieghek li tippretendi li int xi pulit.
U x’ghandu x’jaqsam, pippo?
Mela biex tkun “pulit” trid bil-fors ikollok Ingliz (miktub u mitkellem) minghajr zbalji?
Int qed thallat min hu mghallem (“educated”) ma’ min mhux. Ma tistax tehodha kontra bniedem ghax mhux mghallem – ghax forsi l-intellett tieghu ma jasalx biex jifhem l-importanza tat-taghlim. Ghandek titkaza b’min ihaddem nies semi-illitterati f’karigi fid-deher u ta’ certu responsabbilta.
M’ ghandekx biex tiskanta – jekk taf is-sistema taf kif seta lahaq avukat u taf ukoll kif l-ohrajn ta ONE TV se jilhqu “Doktors”.
How ludicrous that a lawyer, member of parliament and probable future minister does not even have a grasp of basic English. I say send him to a kindergarten in Sliema to mix with some toddlers who should help him to improve.
Even his Maltese is not that brilliant – in which language did he write his thesis?
In 1998, the first time that I voted, I voted Labour since I was raised in a family that supported Labour as most of the people in Malta do.
In 2003, to be honest, I was very confused because on the one hand, although we were never poor, we always struggled financially. However, on the other hand, I always had an open mind and wanted to know both sides of the story.
I was in favour of Malta joining the EU because I could understand that on many aspects although not perfect, this was good for our future. Unfortunately, admittedly, I ended up voting for Labour, because I was worried about my family’s future as they are not very highly educated and from what I gathered, without being disrespectful, in my opinion, the people that would be worse off are those that do not want to study, learn and take challenges in their life.
In 2008, like many others, even Nationalist voters, I wanted to see a change in government as it was a bit unbearable to have the same guys running the country for all these years. However, without going into the merits of the election and how it was won or lost, following that election I started to accept the fact that unfortunately for the country, we do not have a decent Opposition.
We can criticize the current government on many areas and on many mistakes, however, the Opposition are still very lacking in their political and economic vision and many of them are still with the mindset of helping the poor by destroying the wealthy.
And yes, I have no problems saying it, especially for the 2003 election, I made a mistake in voting Labour and I regret it. Nowadays, I am fed up of waiting and hoping for the Labour Party to change so that maybe one day we change our government.
Since the first time I voted in 1998, under the PN governments, instead of blaming the world for not being able to improve my standard of living, I took a self critical approach and started studying, changed some of my attitudes and never looked back and due to the good prospects in the financial services industry, I have managed to build a good career and good standard of living for me and my family.
And most probably, next time round, for the first time, although the PN is not perfect and there are quite a few personalities that I really do not like, I will vote for the PN honestly, maybe I make up for the mistake that I made in 2003.
I’m fed up of giving chances to the Labour Party because in the past they ‘helped the poor and the working class’. (although that help was in a way a set back).