The new progressive liberalism: Foreigners Keep Out
No eastern European is going to take my job with the Labour Party
Marisa Micallef, since joining the Labour Party, has – natch -developed xenophobic views and began to write in teenage textese.
Here she is on Facebook.
Marisa Micallef – alistair darlin, on sky news todayg now admits that almsot all the 2 milllion jobs created went to east europeans..and that was a mistake…
Marisa Micallef – its not a question of any form of racism, if u r in govt u must try to boost employment for ur own people..everyone sensible accepts that
Give me strength. The fact that her thinking isn’t particularly scintillating is not a Labour development. She took that with her. Listen up, Marisa:governments don’t work to boost employment for state citizens or for people with freedom of movement. They work to boost employment, full stop.
Then the jobs are taken by whoever is there to take them, like Marisa Micallef from Malta when she lived there. If Eastern Europeans took the jobs in Britain, then that’s because the British didn’t want them or weren’t qualified. End of story.
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” If Eastern Europeans took the jobs in Britain, then that’s because the British didn’t want them or weren’t qualified.”
Ehmm, or, I would hazard a guess they were able and willing to take the jobs for lower wages? ;-)
[Daphne – Meaning that the British didn’t want them. A job is a job is a job, and if you don’t want it then, well….don’t complain.]
Eastern Europeans accept lower wages. It’s a race to the bottom and it lowers the standard of living of working class families. The European Court of Justice has even ruled that workers from other EU states may be paid at the same rate as in the country of origin (Laval Case).
By the same token, ‘a job being a job being a job’, you can bring in a million Chinese workers, pay them a pound an hour and say ‘the British didn’t want the jobs.’
[Daphne – You can’t bring in a million Chinese, Kevin. Eastern Europeans get the jobs because they have freedom of movement. Chinese don’t. There’s something else people like you ALWAYS miss. Eastern Europeans working for low wages also keep things affordable for others who wouldn’t otherwise be able to pay for them. Somebody who lives in Italy mentioned here that Romanians do most of the care of the elderly. If they didn’t, Italians, wouldn’t be able to pay for that service, and so they would have to deal with the problems that come from doing without it.]
Quite apart from the question of which jobs exactly these “Eastern Europeans” are “taking”.
Last time I had a look, lawyers, engineers, doctors, architects, accountants, and the rest of the professional aristocrats were all Maltese born and bred. The only “Eastern Europeans” anywhere were in waitressing and bartending. And good thing too. They’ve raised standards.
By the way, the correct term for the New Europe is Central Europe. Eastern Europe is the Ukraine, Belarus, European Russia and so on. Minor point, but it reveals our congenital “nilqghu mill-barrani” syndrome.
I expected such a response – but the fact that China is not an EU state is irrelevant in the context of a ‘job being a job being a job’.
As to what “people like me ALWAYS miss”, indeed I couldn’t have come up with that classic Daphnism. But I agree, exploitation does make services and commodities rather more affordable.
[Daphne – It’s not exploitation, Kevin. It’s the market. If that were not the case, you would find yourself cleaning the house while Sharon is at work, because you wouldn’t be able to afford to pay somebody else to do it.]
You’re not making sense at all now, eager as you are to disinform.
“Eastern Europeans working for low wages also keep things affordable for others who wouldn’t otherwise be able to pay for them.”
So does child slavery
[Daphne – Child slavery is illegal. If you don’t want to sound thick, use rational arguments.]
@ H.P Baxxter
“Last time I had a look, lawyers, engineers, doctors, architects, accountants, and the rest of the professional aristocrats were all Maltese born and bred”
Figures you won’t care for the maltese waiters/bartenders,dishwashers,cleaners,construction workers and other such jobs which account for the great majority of jobs in Malta.You just can’t relate
Lesson 1 in Logic 101.
All canaries are birds.
Some birds are canaries.
All canaries are yellow.
Does it follow that all birds are yellow?
Likewise, the majority of “Eastern” Europeans in Malta work in the hospitality and catering industry.
The vast majority of professionals in Malta are Maltese citizens.
Does that mean there are no Maltese waitresses?
Ninsab imdawwar bi swar ta’ stupidagni.
Oh it’s not an argument.It’s meant to show how irrational your argument is(and successfully so as you’ve called me thick).Just because it keeps things affordable doesn’t mean it’s right.It’s still worker exploitation. The fact you can’t relate only shows you have never done such jobs.Or had someone close do them for a living.
[Daphne – Frans, my argument assumed the legal parameters, given that we are in the European Union and not in China or India. It is completely rational. You can’t pick and choose your liberalism: yes to individual liberties, but no to liberal economics. Unfortunately, Labour ‘thinkers’ like you think liberalism means yes to divorce and yes to socialist economic policies, which are the opposite of liberal economics. With your socialist reasoning and Marisa Micallef’s half-assed thinking, Maltese restaurants would be either 1. banned from engaging Romanians and Bulgarians (which is not possible because it is against EU law), or 2. forced to pay waiters a mandatory wage higher than the market rate so that those who can’t be bothered to take the job at the market rate MIGHT be tempted to take it at the state-mandated higher rate. This is a total distortion of the workings of demand and supply and the net result is that restaurants will become unaffordable to all but a few and most of them will close down, leading to LOSS OF JOBS AND NOT MORE JOBS. The Labour Party’s catastrophic failure to understand these basic principles of the market is what has made Labour such a total failure as a government and such a disaster for Malta, even in opposition, when its failure to understand how markets work ultimately to the benefit of all caused it to fight tooth and nail against EU membership.
As for never doing any such jobs, and nobody close to me ever having done them, you are seriously mistaken. I come from a family that places great value on hard graft, and have worked since I was 17.]
Frans, mhux biss thick, imma insolenti wkoll. Int minghalik li ghax naf nispelli qatt m’ghamilt menial jobs bil-minimum wage. Ghandek zball. Madornali.
U dawn il-jobs, jekk joghgbok, ghamilthom meta kelli dottorat.
Jigifieri tghidx cucati. Cannot relate.
Niggarantilek li int gej minn background hafna iktar privileggat minni, u probabilment ghandek familja, bil-mod cons kollha u xi “delizzju” on the side. Jien l-iktar wiehed working class hawn gew, f’kull sens tal-kelma.
Frans, you cannot win an argument against Daphne’s ragunar bazwi. The moment she loses an argument she starts inventing things about you and then repeats them ad nauseam so her flatterers and imitators believe them. What a sad joke, really.
[Daphne – Really, Kevin. Perhaps you would like to explain why you have avoided commenting on the Consuelo issues? Or would I be inventing things about you if I were to say that you’re staying out of it because you’re married to Sharon, sister to Singapore Sling John C. Ellul and Andy Ellul?]
Daphne, whilst I agree with your point that if Eastern European people work for lower wages it will put the prices down and make things / services more affordable, it would also mean that there will be locals without a job because they would have refused to work for such low wages. With no job they wouldn’t be able afford anything.
I believe a job should be given to the best person suited for it regardless of nationality, but unfortunately this is not always the case and it usually ends up that the job is given to the people who offer to work for peanuts.
Well Daphne, if you offer a serving of cake to a diabetic he will obviously refuse, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want the cake – he might be craving it for all you know – but he knows that if he takes it, he’ll be worse off than he is now.
Similarly if you offer someone a job that barely pays enough to feed the kids, let alone pay the rent, don’t be surprised if they refuse, especially if taking your job means relinquishing any social benefits they might already be receiving.
[Daphne – There is so much that is wrong with your reasoning that I don’t know where to begin. Let’s give it a try, though I’m bound to miss out many points. 1. Don’t have kids unless you can earn enough money to keep them. 2. If you have inadvertently had some, make sure the other parent works as well. 3. If the other parent can’t work, take on a second job. 4. If the job pays only marginally more than social benefits, take the job and give up the social benefits, because that way you’ll have a work record when you’re applying for better positions, and with social benefits you won’t. 5. If you can’t afford the rent, find somewhere cheaper or earn more money.
Remember, bubu, the key words are ‘SHOW INITIATIVE AND GET UP OFF YOUR BACKSIDE’.]
Immigrants who can afford to accept such jobs usually consider to be fair a standard of living that for most westerners would be unthinkable (would you like to share an apartment with a dozen strangers perhaps?).
[Daphne – No, I wouldn’t, but then I don’t have to. If I had to, I would. My sons, in London, shared with half a dozen strangers and it didn’t kill them, even though they grew up in a large house. African immigrants have the right attitude. Maltese wasters have the wrong one. They think they’re not getting ahead because others have taken it all and left no room for them. But they’re not getting ahead because of their ‘nistenna l-bajtra taqa’ go halqi’ attitude.]
They might even be receiving benefits that the natives do not, even while they keep a job – assuming that the job is above-board, of course.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe in a free economy, but the key to a free economy is a level playing field. Giving extra benefits to immigrants and then closing an eye (or two) when they work on the black market is hardly engendering a level playing field.
[Daphne – You must draw a distinction between legal wages and illegal wages. The level playing-field is not disrupted by immigrant workers who work for lower pay than citizens, but by employers who exploit immigrant workers by paying them less than the legal minimum, engaging them in the black market, and leaving them unprotected by the labour laws.]
@ BuBu:
What “extra benefits” do immigrants get?
Din ghadha taqlibhom ‘il fuq ghajnejha hi u titkellem?
Daphne seems to be disturbed by Marisa. So many, so many are shifting to labour. i did the same. i am sure deap inside this really hurts you all. we all need change, and change will come…………..and how.
ex pn
[Daphne – It’s not Marisa who disturbs me, Ray, but the feeling that I’m surrounded by rampant stupidity.]
Of course change will come. For example we already know that the likes of Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando and Jesmond Mugliett don’t stand a chance of getting elected.
We are not living in fairy land. The PL plan is to have as many candidates as possible to garner number one votes.
They will put a maestro, an eye surgeon, a pediatrician, Marisa Micallef herself (there’s a rumour) and some others on the list.
Most of them do not know the first thing about politics and PL supporters are already admitting that they won’t be elected – imma jafuhom in-nies u jgibu l-voti. That is the progressive way of doing things.
The rampant stupidity surrounding you is probably your brain cell trying to get through. Not hard to see why you don’t like Marisa now is it? She’s quite an attractive lady and I seem to remember she was invited to lunch by José Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission during his visit to Malta. How could he possibly have picked Marisa instead of you!!!
[Daphne- Tyrrell, you are so incredibly like a 13-year-old Sacred Heart girl in the schoolyard that I sometimes wonder whether you’re not perhaps Astrid Vella’s sock-puppet.]
Yes, many are saying we need a change. Yet to a man none can say what we are going to change to – and this is what is most disturbing. You question why we need change and the answer is “because it is time” or “we have had enough” or “25 years is too long”.
Then the ones who feel they have a good reason will say “corruption”, to which you ask “Such as?”, and you get more generic answers like “everywhere – you can smell it” And you ask, “Such as?” and then the answer is again “It’s time to change”.
Then you ask “OK – so tell me ONE single PL policy – any one – childcare, street cleaning, economy, VAT, electricity prices – you name it”. And the response “We need change”.
And herein lies our major problem.
The lack of novelty in government is leading many to vote with their feet instead of their heads.
It is a stronger feeling than 1996 and there we had an idea where Alfred Sant was headed (straight into a stone wall) – but at least we had an idea. Sure he conned most into thinking we were getting a big reduction in prices and (self employed) taxes by removing VAT and cash registers.
This guy is likewise promising the impossible and will doubtless bring about a catastrophe in our economy – but we will leave changed ‘for the sake of change’.
He will have a totally incompetent cabinet with people like Anglu Farrugia, Marlene Pullicino, Luciano Busuttil, Michael Farrugia, Gino Cauchi, Joe Mizzi, Jose Herrera, Silvio Parnis and they will be running the country.
Try to find a single example of an utterance by the Labour Party on a PN initiative where their advice or analysis did not prove to be totally incorrect – a single one.
We are in for a hell of a ride – and our quality of life will suffer – but we will have changed. We will not have learnt from our 96 experiment.
Ray, nothing is static. Things are changing all the time, so why should we be surprised that you” shifted to Labour”? That is your right.
I am not worried that we might soon have a change of government; change does not worry me in the least. What does worry me is whether we will be changing for the best or whether we will be going back to the seventies.
If the Labour Party is not forthcoming in explaining how they are going to tackle many of the country’s problems, of which we have many, I am going to be very careful before “shifting”
As we say “Better the devil you know”.
There is too much at risk.
We need change, Ray? What type of change do we need? This is not a shampoo or a manicurist.
Yes, we need a change – for the better though. Do you really, seriously believe that a change for Labour is a change for the better?
Daphne, we ARE surrounded by rampant stupidity. The problem is that it is taking over.
@Lomax, dan x nickname hu. is this a new brand of shampoo or manicurist.
20 years drives a country to dictator rule. gonzi sar arroganti u l ministri ghar.
yes sur lomax jew sinjorina lomax change will come and how. keep calling ex pn names. and the wave will even grow bigger.
ex pn and proud to be pl now
@ ray spiteri
I don’t believe that you were ever a PN supporter.
By the way you write and express yourself you are just a young punk who never lived under the Socialist regimes of 1971-1987.
Not only were those governments arrogant but violently arrogant and no one with a bit of memory left intact or, having enough grey matter to understand what went on in those dreadful years, will ever vote Labour.
Oh yes, Nationalists are flocking towards Labour, dream on boy and here I must say that I get irritated when I keep hearing that so and so from Labour will be minister of this and that in 18 months time.
Repeated often enough, it may become a self fulfilling prophecy, but not because Labour merits it.
Go under the wings of Labour and you will soon discover that their (arm) wing pits reek.
Yes, Ray, change is needed; but I’d rather see the devil I know in power than the kannol bla krema that is Joseph Muscat and his cronies.
kannol la krema kellna hafna fil partit tal pn sur matt b. jekk nibda nsemmi ma nispiccax. Dr. Aguis, Zammit Dimech, Simon Busuttil, joe borg, giovanna . arroganti wkoll ghandha tipo austin. nies tajba keccewhom u tawhom il gemb bhal john dalli. the end is near. 20 years and the legacy of this gonzi pn will be HIS ARROGANCE. 500EURO / WEEK PAY/KUNTRATTI/GHOLI TAL HAJJA/ etc etc.
EX PN
Sur Spiteri, nassigurak li ghalkemm il-PN ghamlu affarijiet li jien ukoll ma naqbilx maghhom, il-gvern Laburista tal-1996 irnexxilhom ja*xu pajjiz shih f’temp ta’ 22 xahar.
U l-gvern Laburista ta’ qabel dak iz-zmien l-inqas ma nitkellmu dwarha, ahjar insomma.
Toqghod tghid, per ezempju, dwar il-kwistjoni li l-gholi tal-hajja qed tizdied. Imbilli – qed tizdied fid-dinja kollha. Malta mhijiex eccessjoni ghad-dinja kollha – ma tinsabx wahedha fuq pjaneta ghaliha.
Iva, sejjaht lil Muscat u shabu bhala ‘kannoli bla krema’; u dazgur nghid hekk – rega gab dawk in-nies lura mis-sebghinijiet u tmeninijiet biex jiggwidawh fit-tmexxija tal-partit, nies bhal AST, Karmenu Vella, Anglu Farrugia u Joe Debono Grech, li huma maghrufa ghat-‘track records’ taghhom.
Dazgur li b’dawk in-nies fl-oppozizzjoni, nibqa nivvota ghal ‘the devil I know’… tallinqas ghal kull punti negattiv li l-PN kellu ghal dawn l-ahhar snin, hemm hafna pozittivi x’jinghadu wkoll.
Ray with “deap” regrets but good riddance: at least do yourself a favour and stop reading Maltastar.
Ray, everybody seeks change in one way or another.
Every election I gauge the candidates in my constituency, vote for the successful MPs (not simply the most popular ones) and check out the new candidates.
That way I’m voting for change.
I do make mistakes I admit, by voting JPO last time, but the same mistake will not be repeated.
Shift to Labour to get the change I hope for? Do that and within a few months you would be praying for another Dom Mintoff to get you out of the mess similar to 96 – 98.
Except this time you will have to wait for a full 5 years, by which time the damage is complete.
Do you want samples of Joseph Muscat’s advice?
Malta would not have joined EU.
Malta would not have joined Eurozone.
He said we should have done what Iceland did, and look at Iceland now.
Malta should follow Cyprus, financial mess they are now in.
“… this really hurts you all.”
It IS going to hurt us all when all these defections become votes in the general election and ginger boy and his troops are at the helm of this country.
And when I say all I mean each and every one of us, no matter what political side one is on.
“Daphne seems to be disturbed by Marisa. So many, so many are shifting to labour. i did the same. i am sure deap inside this really hurts you all. we all need change, and change will come…………..and how.
ex pn”
1. Labour with a capital ‘L’ if you are referring to the political party, otherwise it just means ‘work’.
2. Personal pronoun ‘I’ is always written with a capital letter.
3. ‘Deep’ takes a double ‘e’.
4. ‘this’, in the phrase ‘this really hurts you all’, refers to the previous statement which is that you have joined the Labour Party. Since we don’t know who you are we are unaffected by your decision. Now that we do know, you could define our reaction as contempt.
5. Sentences end with a full stop and start with a capital letter. Thus ‘We all need change.’
6. Multiple dots: the usual number is three. No more and no less.
General comment: The inability, and what is worse, the refusal to write accurately indicates that you have not sufficient intelligence to grasp the finer points of logical thought.
Neither do you see pattern or consequence.
It may come as a surprise to you but it is common knowledge that political parties rise and fall.
None of us thinks that the Nationalist Party will be in government forever. We know the Labour Party will win the election sooner or later.
Clearly you have either no experience of Labour in government, or your family was one of those that were favoured over others.
Either way, when Labour take over the reins I trust you will remember these days and see the difference.
Finally: the phrases ‘deep inside’, ‘really hurts’, the repetition and rhythm of ‘change’ in ‘we all need change and change will come’ indicate that you have been listening to too many silly songs and not reading or thinking enough.
Does it occur to you that you may not like the change when it comes?
ghaziza pat, hemm xi cans nattendi ghal xi lezzjonijiet wara l hin tax xoghol. imma basta bil vat receipt. kemm inti sinjura jew sinjorina simpatika. xtghamel fil hajja inti. bin nuqqas ta gramatika u hafna spelling mistakes xorta nwassal il message u rnexxejt bil kbir fil karriera.
jaqqaw inti xi wahda min dawk ta ghajnejhom blu blu. u qedha tinkwieta li mhux ser tibqa tpapija.
nehhi il maskla u irrispetta lil kulhadd.
arroganti bhal gonzi u shabhu int.
anyway, i wait for your hour rate. we should start with english . ex pn
“bin nuqqas ta gramatika u hafna spelling mistakes xorta nwassal il message u rnexxejt bil kbir fil karriera”.
Hard to believe. Good writing is a must in most careers, unless, of course, we’re speaking of busking or anything of that sort.
call people that are surrounding you names is your favorite waste of time. every morning i spend 15 minutes chatting with the street sweeper, ma jafx jaqra u jikteb, ima qatt ma naf li insulenta lil xi hadd. kulhadd ihobbu fit triq. allura dan il proxxmu kif tiklassifikah daphne. mhux ahjar tmur tghamel misjier iehor flok toqod tidefendi lil gonzipn. bhal per ezempju tikteb xi rumanz. ex pn
I for one,would have never thought you spend 15 mins with the street sweeper, every morning. I would have thought you spent the whole day with him.
Well if you like doing it, it’s O.K.with me. You might end up learning something from him.
mhux problema salvu. jew tridha ta silvio. oh my gosh. bdway today i happened to be busy reading tom peters essentials. do you have an idea of this ber -guru. Yes and while talking to the street sweeper i learn something new every day. ex pn
1. Note the tenses and the use of the present participle: ‘Calling people that surround you’.
2. Favourite not favorite. Decide whether you are going to use British English or American spelling and be consistent.
3. Capital letters at the beginning of a sentence.
4. Personal pronoun ‘I’ is always a capital letter.
5. Issa l-Malti. Imma, taghmel, mistjier, tiddefendi, tikklassifikah.
Again, you demonstrate the absence of the link between mastery of language and clarity of thought.
First be critical of yourself and of what you are saying. Because you have never known your street sweeper to insult any one during the fifteen minutes you spend with him, it does not follow that he never has.
You might also note that Daphne’s targets are people in public life who are accountable to us.
Presently she is demonstrating this commitment in the courts; putting her money where her mouth is, as it were.
She does not insult the man in the street.
What she does mock – and with good reason – is the spectacle of people parading their ignorance in public.
However, if you do go public you must be ready to take the flak and this is what the ignorant refuse to understand.
Pat, just some clarification. Have you appointed yourself PA to our national Daphne.
Daphne attacks anyone who is not nationalist. you defend daphne cause you seems to be enjoying gonzipn way of managing our country.
Dear Pat, your English is good. I only excel in technology and science.
How patetic of you showing off your command of English. Mela hsiebt li qedin l iskola.
Anyway, i am still interested to sigh up for some private lessons – it seems you have a talent – just devolop it, sell it and be it. Do you have any idea whom i m quoting,,, its tom peters he is a guru in management not linguistics.
ilejl it tajjeb mrs zarha and tinsieh few more months Dr Joseph Muscat PM ta Malta and then after President tal EU. Can you digest this.
Ex PN
People who truly excel in science and technology would be too humble to say that they “excel in technology and science”. And they usually have a good grasp of the English language, which is a prerequisite for understanding textbooks in the field.
Ray, if the street sweeper is spending 15 minutes chatting with you, then he is robbing the taxpayer 15 minutes worth of wages each time he encounters you.
But then, someone, elsewhere said, ‘sewwa jaghmlu l-haddiema…jighazznu…jisolhu…u jisirqu kemm jistghu’. Mentalita bazwija, perikoluza a la Labour Party.
your comment is awaiting moderation………..from whom……..is it daphne……….who is the censura…….name and surname……….. ara meta tipostja xi messagg favur gonzi pn mil ewwel jigi streamed. ex pn
Kemm int cuc, jahasra.
kemm int cuc Matt B, jien ma nithasrekx ima.
Matt B – jien cuc u inti? Ghandu bzon konsulent Gonzi ghax ma tmurx tizattat jew tilghaq, ma tafx kif jobs for the boys. ex pn
“Your comment is awaiting moderation” etc etc
Kull kumment jigi moderated. Mhux tieghek biss.
Ghalhekk cuc int, ghax qas haga banali bhal din ma tista tinduna.
Naghmlu imhatra, Ray Spiteri? Hawn hu messagg kontra “GonziPN”. Posted at 13h04 CET, ha naraw meta jigi uploaded:
I strongly disagree with PN’s policy of extending stipends to all post-secondary and MCAST students. This policy has been promoted and defended by Lawrence Gonzi himself. It is badly thought out. It is not producing the desired result. It is contributing to public debt.
Anyway, dan sieheb l-istreet sweeper tieghek. Int minghalik li l-inteligenza tigi mid-degrees u s-suits imqanzha? U l-kelma hija “jinsulta” mhux “jinsulenta”. Ma ndahhlux sillabi zejda fejn mhemmx bzonn.
I don’t mind being called Salvu even though I have got used to being called Silvio for the last 71 years, but what’s in a name.
Yes, I have read and watched some of Tom Peters’ books and videos, and if not mistaken,one of his videos is called “You are the company you keep”.
Now I admit there is nothing wrong with keeping the company of a street sweeper, but in your case the results do not seem to be very promising.
Since when does Labour, a member of the European Socialists, differentiate between workers?
Such a coincidence, teasers on Facebook barely a week after the gathering for the Muslim community.
Revive the idea of underclass and on with the struggle.
She’s after the MCESD.
@ Ray Spiteri: Your comments are pathetic, you seem to be gleeful that someone else may be unhappy – the suggested unhappiness being your own creation. Daphne is being kind be suggesting you are stupid, you are worse than that.
Some people have fought hard in Malta since 1987 to establish liberal democracy (which had been lost), this includes people being allowed to vote in the way they think best without fear of violence or intimidation.
Five of the last six elections in Malta were won by the power of persausion. Try it. It works!
jekk turi oppinjoni different skont il profs carmelo micallef huwa patetiku, u oltri min hekk aktar stupidu. komplu izirghaw iz zerigha tal mibedha. tliftu votant u hafna aktar bhali qed jghamlu hekk. 4 vota mil familja sissa mhux ser jivvutaw ima bil persuazjoni jien cert li nikonvincijhom jeqilbu il vot sur micallef. ghandu kurzita kemm irnexxejt fhajtek sur micallef. niccalingjaw jien jekk trid u naraw min irnexxa l akter. inti forsi irnexxejt ghax blu impesttat u tilghaq biex takwista.
ex pn
Għandi impressjoni qawwija li int wieħed minn dawk l-opportunisti li jippretendu l-pjaċiri mingħand il-kanvasers tal-politiċi u meta ma jinagħtawx li jridu għax ma jkunx jistħoqqilhom, allura jibdew jeqirdu kontra l-partit u jheddu li se jagħtu l-vot lill-partit l-ieħor.
Eżemplari ta’ din ir-razza jeżistu fuq iż-żewġ naħat, imma jkolli ngħid li iktar jinstemgħu waqt leġislazzjoni tal-Partit Nazzjonalista appuntu minħabba l-fatt li l-postijiet u l-impjiegi jingħataw skont il-mertu – bil-kontra ta’ kif konna mdorrijin bejn il-1971 u l-1987.
U qabel nagħlaq, tista’ tiftaħar kemm trid li l-messaġġ tiegħek wassaltu minkejja li ma tużax il-punteġġjatura kif suppost u l-anqas ma ssegwi regoli grammatikali oħra. Imma qatt waqaft 5 sekondi taħseb jekk dan is-suċċess “tiegħek” hux fil-fatt kompetenza tal-qarrejja l-oħra li jieħdu l-iżbrigu u l-paċenzja jaqraw il-messaġġ tiegħek u joqogħdu jiddeċifrawh? Aħseb sieħbi, aħseb!
@ Ray Spiteri
What a sad and unpleasant person you are … the road sweeper must be a saint to put up with 15 minutes of you.
Marisa Micallef’s comments are very worrying.
A number of reasonably articulate Socialist and their bedfellows have been trying to slip into mainstream discussion what in reality are rather extreme views.
There extreme policy on immigration is not reflected by Marisa Micallef’s cowardly attempt to hide behind somebody else, the PL immigration policy is best understood by Norman Lowell who expressed his total support for PL on this matter to a point where he and his followers will vote PL.
This is Marisa Micallef and PL, the bedfellows of Norman Lowell and his ilk – unabashed National Socialists.
Mainly the Eastern europeans do all the dirty jobs the rest of the Europeans do not want to do.
I can speak about the situation in Italy. The famous “badante” the care worker for the elderly. That job is never done by the Italians but mainly by Romanians. An Italian carer would cost too much and secondly you wouldn’t find any available.
When I hear such comments about these people my answer is always the same “Italians should be grateful to them for changing the nappies and cleaning the butts of your beloved ones”.
She forgot to insert “within the PL” between sensible and accepts.
It is also possible that she purposely omitted those two words because they would have turned her phrase into an oxymoron.
Either way the end result is disastrous.
It does happen in the UK, Daphne. I’ve seen it happening, and most probably it happened to someone when I got a job there.
I don’t think it will be easy on anyone doing a job for some two decades then tell him he’s not worth what they’re paying him, and he either works for almost half the pay or will get replaced.
If he insists on staying for the original pay (bacause one will have no other choice) they’ll make his life a misery. As for the new jobs – they’re just offering the bare minimum, period.
[Daphne – That’s liberalism, Christian. You can’t take only the bits you like.]
Ray Spiteri seems to be very proud to be joining Marisa, Cyrus and some others. If there is to be a change I’d rather be on the losing side and sticking to my principles, than on the side of a bunch of opportunistic shady characters.
edgar jien xbajd blarroganza tal gonzi u lkikkek. punto e basta. we need change and change will come and how. my vote will count+ maybe 4 more from my family. sissa mhux ser jivutaw imma bil perswazjoni nasal u nghamel bhal marisa. iva xhemm hazin. issa tarawha xitan. bdway why you hide your identity. ex pn
Ahna naqblu hafna iktar milli tahseb, Ray Spiteri. Jien nivvota b’mohhi, mhux b’qalbi, u npoggi kollox fuq il-mizien:
Arroganza: PN iva VS MLP iva
Klikek: PN iva VS MLP iva
Inkompetenza: PN f’hafna oqsma VS MLP fl-oqsma kollha
Ricerka teknika qabel ma tigi deciza policy: PN iva VS MLP xejn
Decizjonijiet stategici tajbin: PN il-bicca l-kbira VS MLP xejn
Mela l-mizien jinzel favur il-PN, u l-vot tieghi imur lilhom. Daqshekk kollox.
Ray Spiteri,
OK, ‘xbajt bl-arroganza’, mela ha tivvota Labour. Decizjoni interessanti. X’tixtieq u x’tahseb li jista’ joffrilek Gvern Laburista?
Are you sure you are ex pn? you surely don’t sound or act like like one. You sound more like the Labour elves out there with every comment you add. And if Gonzi is arrogant, have a look in your mirror.
We can change for the better or we can change for worse. Problem with your attitude is you want change for the sake of change.
This is not a little adventure where you are going for a walk and decide to go left or right to see if you find something more interesting.
We are talking about our lives on a daily basis.
People like you will vote for change for the sake of it regardless of what the consequences will be…..basta biddilna!
You are willing to risk everything for an unknown.
How sad that people like you will determine my faith without considering the consequences. If I ask you about one area where the PL will do a better job and ask you to substantiate it – you won’t be able to do so.
I’ll bet you wanted or requested some favour from the PN, got turned down and now you are whining on the internet.
Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we need a change?
Back it up with some coherent arguments instead of “Gonzi arroganti”.
On second thoughts, Ray Spiteri is probably just a troll, and not a very good one at that.
May I use your email?
[Daphne – If you mean send me an email, go ahead.]
To all you supporters of our National Daphne.
Ghax ma tmorrux tivolontarjaw Kastilja and give a helping hand to the dead men walking Dr. Gonzi ghax agunija bhalissa, minflok toqodu tilaqu lil DCG u thegguwa tkompli thammeg lil kull min hu kontra PN. dalwaqt il poplu ta malta u ghawdex ser iwarrbu darba ghal dejjem. his legacy : 200 miljun euro payments from our taxes to make up for the enormous debt he accumulated during his term of office. can you imagine what could have been done with this money, instead we have to face this financial obligations. And no wonder Mood`s downgraded credit rating. Blame it on laqwa economista (min avukat) Il ministru FENECH & Co.Ex PN
L-ewwel tghallem ikteb, imbaghad ejja aghmel l-argument. Tkun hafna iktar kredibli.
Sur Baxxter, how about using your name and surname and not hidding under a nickname. Baxter reminds me of german investment by MLP.
Ara inti thossok hafna bravu ghax forsi taf tikteb ftit propoganda.
Jien nghandiex hin bhalek, forsi inti xi wiehed anzjan bhal hafna bloggers to Daphne, jew xi mara tad dar
Ghandek xi opinjoni fuq Moody`s credit rating. Jew dak minhabba l ekonomija.
Tkun iktar kredibli.
Ex PN and now PL (I look forward come 16 months time to vote for the FIRST TIME EVER LABOUR.
Your first sentence is enough to expose your childish mentality. One need read no further than that.
Being a professional Eastern European who has lived in Malta for almost 4 years I can tell you that the PN is not very different in its policy either.
The fact stands that Malta is the only EU country where your working permit is exclusively tied to the company that employs you which translates into two things:
1. You cannot freely change jobs in case you’re unsatisfied with your employer because as soon as you leave your contract your residence is automatically withdrawn and you have to leave the country; and
2. Many employers take advantage of this fact and change the terms of the contract and usually for the worst.
[Daphne – There is something wrong in what you’ve said here. You can’t be asked to leave Malta if you are an EU citizen and have not committed a crime. Maybe you are an ‘eastern European’ who is not an EU citizen? OK, I gather from what you say next that you are not an EU citizen.]
In recent years there has also been a trend of not renewing working permits for non EU nationals after 3 years of continuous work for the same company. I was fortunate enough to work for a company that was always fair and correct and lived up to the terms of the original contract (although this is the exception, not the rule).
However, after 3 years of working successfully with them, ETC decided not to renew my work permit even though my employers had every intention to keep me working with them. After a 6 month battle with the ETC and many written requests and complaints (at a certain point my manager went himself to speak with the persons in charge of these decisions) their verdict was final and my permit withdrawn on the grounds that a Maltese national could very well do the same job instead of me.
My company was flabbergasted and couldn’t understand how is it that a private, equal opportunities employer who invested many hours in training me for the job and was more than satisfied with my performance was forced to let me go.
[Daphne – It’s simple: you have no right to work in Malta. Believe me when I tell you that I know exactly how you feel, because we Maltese were in exactly the same situation and couldn’t work anywhere without jumping through all kinds of hoops and still living on a knife-edge all the time. That’s one of the main reasons I campaigned for EU membership.]
My case is not isolated and I have met many non EU nationals both professionals and unskilled who have worked in Malta for even longer periods of time and met the same faith.
Speculation says that the government following the influx of EU nationals and illegal immigrants is desperately trying to protect its labor market by imposing restrictions where they can ie. with non EU nationals.
It is also said that Malta is under pressure from the EU to revise its residence permit policy as currently there are only 2 schemes: the one year permit extendable under the discretion of ETC and the long residence permit which is for five years and is more difficult to withdraw apparently but almost impossible to get.
Just for comparison, I am currently living in another EU country where i was approved a working/residence permit without having been employed in the first place and am free to work and change jobs without any restrictions.
My original intent was to stay in Malta as I truly appreciate the quality of life there, however this opportunity was not given to me and many others.
Hoping to raise some awareness about this issue that I believe many are not familiar with.
I believe that this is an unfortunate scenario for both the Maltese companies that have invested much in their non EU employees as well as the employees themselves. Thank you for reading.
[Daphne – The tragic reality of citizenship, Mr/Ms Eastern European, is that Malta cannot export its own subliterate dross and replace it with people like you.]
This is one of the many stains upon PN’s record in office.
A couple of years ago, the government decided not to renew annual work permits beyond five years.
A number of important companies (I’m talking international banks) were facing the prospect of having to fire some of their most experienced employees.
A half-hearted attempt at rectification was made by issuing a legal notice concerning a very restricted number professionals in the financial sector. As far as I’m concerned it’s too little, too late, too Maltese.
Agreed. This is also a problem in the IT industry.
We were recently not allowed to retain an outstanding Brazilian employee whose linguistic skills and technical background were invaluable.
Unsurprisingly this person was snapped up by a competitor in another country.
To add insult to injury, the ETC meanwhile (1) keeps sending us ridiculously inadequate CVs, and (2) asks us for advice as to “what training may be provided to Maltese job seekers”, whilst refusing to renew the work permits of foreign personnel leading, and training, teams of local employees to face up to international competition.